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Krimzan
10-19-03, 10:37 AM
Do we really need clarification of, "...jihad, or holy war, ..." anymore? I mean really, I'm sure that by now, the amount of ink, paper, bandwidth and TV time that have been dedicated to the clarification that "jihad" is equivilant to "holy war" probably exceeds the GNP of a small Baltic republic. Every time Bin Laden releases another tape he goes off declaring jihad on the USA, Britain, Spain, Australia, Poland, Japan, Italy, Kuwait, all music made after 1963, women who wear platform sandles, Malabu Barbie, ChapStick and Milli Vanilli all the Newspapers and websites go out of their way to make us aware that when he says 'jihad' he really mean's 'holy war'. Nobody ever says, "Well that was a case of deja vu, or 'already seen'." We all know what deja vu means! Nobody ever says, "Well that was a case of deja vu, or 'already seen'."

Lets assume here that the words 'or holy war' are transmitted in ASCII instead of UNICODE. Each character in ASCII is 8-bits, 1-byte, 1/1024 Kb. This means that the phrase 'or holy war' is 88-bits long, 0.0859375 Kbits. It is not unrealistic to say that a site like MSNBC will get 10million hits a month. Ignoring some accuracy and just moving the decimal place, thats (potentially) over 850 Mbits a month for one website dedicated to the words 'or holy war'. Now then you have the BBC, Fox News, Reuters etc serving up articles on the current state of the angry Arabs so I think it's safe to assume that at the very least, a Gigabit worth of 'or holy war' gets transmitted each month on average for the past two years. That's 24 Gigabits of 'or holy war' per site. Now to deal with loads, I'm going to estimate that a website that got 10million hits a month would need at least a T1 JUST to handle pages regarding angry Arabs and holy wars. These are about 1.5 Mbps and since they are serving mainly text that should suffice (remember this is averaged and hypothetical, so quit scoffing). This will run around $1k per month. So each big news site now is spending $12k-ish a year to serve the text 'or holy war'. Lets say that there are 10 such websites that average that kind of traffic (we won't even go into Google) various people are now spending $120k a year to serve the text 'or holy war', and that's just the cost of bandwidth! (Completly abstracted, and a bit unrealistic, but you get the idea.)

Now think about the cost of newspaper area for every paper that gets printed in the United States with the words 'or holy war' clarifying the term jihad. Then there's magazine articles in Time, etc. Quickly it becomes obvious that 'or holy war' is a problem of epidemic proportions.

EZ_Geidon
10-19-03, 12:12 PM
To much free time today?

EZ_Dading001
10-19-03, 01:03 PM
i just learned that jihad = holy war!

EZ_Healo
10-19-03, 04:09 PM
What is a jihad again?

EZ_Boot Disk
10-19-03, 04:16 PM
Didn't someone rant about this awhile back?

(Not that I'm complaining. I mean, I hate (or holy war) pretty badly, too.) where anger is big and fueled by hydrogen

Koru
10-19-03, 04:23 PM
I'm sure somewhere out there there's someone who's been living in a cave for the last two years who has no clue what the word me... err, on second thought, never mind.

Yalum
10-19-03, 04:31 PM
Didn't someone rant about this awhile back?

No, that rant was because "jihad" doesn't really mean "holy war".

EZ_Andurian
10-19-03, 05:23 PM
I believe Jihad is a journey or quest to better yourself as a muslim. Basically.

Meddik
10-19-03, 08:37 PM
Well, it depends on which group you talk to.

For most, yes.

For some? They use it to mean Holy War in many contexts.

EZ_Myrkskog
10-19-03, 09:10 PM
Beep beep Edited by: Myrkskog at: 10/20/03 6:03 am

EZ_Prenn
10-19-03, 10:25 PM
^^^
Oh snap, that was politically incorrect. Sensei Pren{Dragon Army}[Tribunal Server]
So I take shelter in tomorrow
Tomorrow will bring a brand new day
Think I can make it right tomorrow,
Think I need more sleep today...

Nenjin
10-19-03, 10:37 PM
I don't normally say this, but I hope you get banned for that one Myrs, twice.

EZ_Myrkskog
10-20-03, 07:03 AM
Ahh it was just a joke. I'll take it down since it seems to offend some

EZ_Synrax
10-20-03, 07:40 AM
I declare an unholy war on you all.

EZ_Bondori Zafiro
10-20-03, 09:10 AM
I always thought Jihad meant struggle? Or thats what I was told when I heard it from an Arab friend before 911. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bon·do·ri
adj.
1. Deviating from what is ordinary, usual, or expected; strange or peculiar.
2. Random and unusual death to sea turtles. * *

EZ_Myrkskog
10-20-03, 09:51 AM
Lol your sig is awesome Bondori.

EZ_Prenn
10-20-03, 11:52 AM
If you meant it entirely in jest, then it was slightly clever. If you're just covering your ass, it was bad.

Being an insensitive bastard, the sheer inappropriateness of it amused me

EZ_Myrkskog
10-20-03, 03:05 PM
I'm not very sensitive either heh. I meant it entirely as a jest, and I know the muslims that do suicide are rare. But i'm not here to start any sort of arguement, so I took it off when someone complained.

Ponzi
10-20-03, 10:15 PM
I keep passing by this thread and thinking it's about some sort of christmas carol.