How do people deal with it?

[Mardoc the Dwarf]

How do people deal with this rubbish called life? How do people enjoy living when all they do is work or school.

My schedule for instance:
Monday - School , Home, Homework (school at home), Sleep
Tuesday - Same
Wensday Same, but at Church before sleep.
Thursday - Same as Mon/Tuesday
Friday - School , Home, Friends house (spent doing nothing), Sleep
Saturday - Chores, Homework, Sleep
Sunday - Church, Chores, Homework, Sleep
and repeat.

And now once I graduate from highschool, I move on to college and do the same thing, but pay for it.

Then I move into the business would, and do the same thing, but now I have the added troubles of bills, children, wife, taxes, ect.

Why is this what is set up for me to live? Why do I work to graduate when all I'm going to "break free" from one prison to another?

Protip : Don't club baby seals. Edited by: Mardoc the Dwarf at: 10/20/03 9:23 pm

[EZ_Andurian]

The trick is to figure that out for yourself.

[EZ_Phantom Rogue]

I think The Coah on Playmakers said it best.

When asked how he does it (he is goin through Prostate Cancer treatment, in midst of tryin to make the playoffs).

He says, "You just have to keep showing up."

That says it all.

[Pyrocat Moonstalker]

The trick is to have a fun time doing it. Try and get something out of school, don't just go because you have to. Go because you want to learn something, go because you like to meet new people, go because you want to hang out with friends.

I go for all three reasons, and I don't ever wish that I didn't have to go to school. Ok, well that's not exactly true, everyone has their bad days... but still, it's a positive experience.

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[DarthEnder]

I watch alotta Matrix and Lord of the Rings. It seems to be getting me through. "Classes are not that out of balance -AbsorEQ"

[Brelkor]

Jack Daniels and his cousing Jim Beam .. at least for the college years. Brelkor the Blackhammer, The Masta Back Stabba, retired rogue

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[EZ_Halen]

Substitute 'homework' for 'getting drunk'. All your problems go away. Halen Taz : 63 assassin : Tholuxe Paells <Doomed Legion>
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[EZ_Prenn]

And the british complain about the US education system. Sensei Pren{Dragon Army}[Tribunal Server]
So I take shelter in tomorrow
Tomorrow will bring a brand new day
Think I can make it right tomorrow,
Think I need more sleep today...

[EZ_Fablar]

And then replace 'sleep' with 'wigged out debauchery, prior to collapsing for about 3 hours'.

[Krimzan]

Mmmm debauchery...

[Elerion]

debauchery is a cool word, but not nearly as cool as shenanigans.

shenanigans.

shenanigans.

shenanigans.

*giggle uncontrollably*

[Jem]

"College is the time in a young man's life where he get's a small vacation between his mother and his wife."


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[Nocte]

Just WAIT until you throw in a spouse and children.. HAHAHahahaha!!! Free time? WTF is that!?!

Wraine, that quote is priceless.
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[Aidden]

Find a woman that doesnt want kids right away, you find attractive and easy to get along with, and doesnt mind doing her share of chores..

Enjoy life for a while..

[EZ_Fablar]

Quote:debauchery is a cool word, but not nearly as cool as shenanigans
Hmmm ... shenanigans conjures up images of apple-scrumping or similar. Debauchery conjures up images of coked-up s&m sex or similar.

Maybe our taste diverge here

[EZ_Kinare]

Cut out the Church. All they do is take your money. You can pray to God at home. It even says you are supposed to do that in the Bible:

Quote:Matthew 6:5

And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

6:6
But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.


Last I checked, most churches were on street corners. You don't want to be a hypocrite do you?

EDIT: added source Edited by: Kinare at: 10/21/03 5:56 am

[Meddik]

Wow. A thread mentions church, and it has more than 10 replies before someone attempts to ignite a flamewar.

Normally it only takes 3 or 4.

[EZ_Halen]

Cleanliness is next to Godliness, so you could wash instead of church. BAM, 2 hours saved, not to mention your soul!

[EZ_Prenn]

Well, I did snickeringly think 'cutting out church would give you more time to sleep' when I read it.

Mardoc might or might not be able to choose what he does though, depending on age and family. Church stuff, charity work, sunday school, stuff that gets you involved with other people and doing stuff to keep your mind from wnadering tends to be great for people who are depressesed, though. That is, if you're one who enjoys church related stuff.

What Aidden meant to say was, find a woman who is responsible, doesn't want kids, and views life as something to enjoy, not nail to a wall and brag about over latte.

[EZ_Swipey]

That particular verse does seem to be in conflict with much of the rest of the testament, vis-a-vis the whole "spread the word" and "witness" thing. But that is only if one takes a very literal interpretation of what it is saying (a fault usually attributed to christians by their non-christian detractors)

If one reads it as a comment on the sincerity of one's motivation as a believer being what is really important, then it works out. Those who are into the religion because it is the socially respectable thing to do, or because they feel a need to be "one up" on their fellow man by being -more- devout (at least by external appearances) than he is are not particularly good Christians. A truly good Christian is motivated by neither of those things, and would continue to pray/be good even if the eyes of his fellows were not on him. For example, if he were shut up in his closet with the lights out and the door closed.

The very conspicuousness that is derided by this verse (if it is motivated by ego) is condoned, however, if it is motivated by love and concern for one's fellow man, and the desire to save his eternal soul from damnation.

Or so I read it.

[EZ_Urusai]

You think your tastes diverge Fablar.. When I see "vis-a-vis" I think of vivisection.

[EZ_Kinare]

Quote:(the whole thing, but especially this part) A truly good Christian is motivated by neither of those things, and would continue to pray/be good even if the eyes of his fellows were not on him.

Exactly how my father read it, and me too. You don't NEED to go to church. If people tell you that you NEED to go or you will go to hell, they are full of it.

You can go for social reasons if you LIKE to go. Nothing wrong with that. Hell, I went to more than a dozen Fellowship of Christian Athletes meetings while I was the president of the college atheist club, purely for social reasons. Didn't stand up and sing all the time, and certainly didn't pray. But it was a good time with interesting discussions.

[Meddik]

Well no, you don't NEED to go.

If you are just going so that it makes you look good, then those verses would apply.

But as a general rule of thumb, the bible places a large amount of importance on fellowship with likeminded believers, etc., so Its a bit off the mark to say Don't Go.

But I don't think removing church from the schedule is neccesarily the first, best or only method to use here. If he wasn't a believer, maybe it would be, but you can't assume he places your same low priority on church attendence. After all, you are an athiest, and I'm assume he is not.

[EZ_TribalGeek]

I think medic just said that best. Alot better than I could atleast. I used to attend chruch but still belive as a christian. I just got fed up with all of the church's I tried attending. Most of the people my age that went were there for show and nothing more.

If he belivies and enjoys going for what ever he should keep going. If he dosen't then he should stop. American by birth.
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[EZ_Bondori Zafiro]

Quote:once I graduate from highschool, I move on to college and do the same thing
I wouldnt see it that way, for most people college is the best time of their life. I'm on in community college waiting to transfer to a 4 year school and I'm already starting to love life outside of highschool.

As for church, I haven't gone in years (attended regularly in years at least) but that's because I dont like the only church that is close to here. My whole family goes and I stay home on Sunday.

Something about the pastor driving a Lexus and purchasing a brand new 9 bedroom house for him and another one for his mother, it bugs me. The time he made a point in front of the service that he was wearing an Armani suit it was the last ***** for me.

I'll start going again when I can find a pastor who cares more about the people going to the church then the amount of money he is making.

[Nimmbull]

"Find a job you love and you'll never work a day in your life."

[EZ_Aldarion Shard]

right. and if everyone took that advice, society would crumble in a matter of days, since there would be no more trash collectors, sewer maintanence people, etc.

personally, my advice is to accept that life sucks @$%^ ... but acknowledge that it beats the heck outa the alternative. Veda Kai'Rin

[Mardoc the Dwarf]

I like my church, I like the people, but I could careless for the message. I know god should probably be one of the first things in my life, but when I'm told I need to get a 100 average so I can get into a good college, so that I'm not poor for the rest of my life, things just seem to come up.

Damn the system.

Oh and about find a woman, ha yes I wish out of my massive (not being sarcastic here) list of female friends a single one of them would ever consider dating me. I'm just that funny tall (which BTW is a massive henderance when the tallness is excessive when it comes to woman) guy that is funny and chears you up.

[EZ_Geidon]

Thats why we have alcohol...breaks up the mono tone feeling of day to day activities. So every now and then show up to class drunk etc.

[EZ_Fablar]

Quote:society would crumble in a matter of days, since there would be no more trash collectors
Being serious, the secret is to do things that you can find pleasure in. Indeed one of my favourite jobs I've ever had was being a trash collector. I've just found that positive happy people, find positive happy elements to whatever they do. Whinely little ****wits just whine no matter what they do ... work out which column you want to be in.

[EZ_Boot Disk]

Do the homework work half-assed. where anger is big and fueled by hydrogen

[EZ_Kaail Lasra]

I feel what you're feeling. The trouble I get from life is outweighing the enjoyment, and just doesn't seem worth it.

I have often casualy considered suicide, but I defer, because the possibilities of what might happen when I die scare me too much. I don't say that to make anyone feel sorry for me or to look cool or anything. But it sure would seem easier if I could just die, and go somewhere better.

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[Jem]

I think you can easily replace that with:

"It sure would seem easier if I could just _____, and go somewhere better."


Doesn't matter what's actually in the blank. It's just that, for some people, death requires the least amount of effort. Hence why suicide is considered by some to be a cop-out. Personally, I think that's making the entire situation too simplistic, but overall the logic in the first two sentences of this paragraph applies.

EDIT: Removed sig. Forgot I had posted in this thread before Edited by: Wraine at: 10/21/03 6:57 pm

[EZ_Hindraak]

Try to stop listening to so much Pink Floyd, you'll feel better
What i've found to work is to just stop caring. Relax, enjoy life, and do what makes you feel good. If that's church, go 7 days a week, it doesn't matter. In the end, it doesn't matter what you've accomplished, as long as you had a good time doing so.

"Life is too short to take seriously"

[Jeters]

Sleep only 5 hours a night. thats what I do =D

Seriously, Life will only be meaningful if you make sure that it is. Part of that is gaining self-confidence and putting love and care into everything that you do. It's about achieving balance between worrying too much about the little things, and not caring at all.

Don't be afraid to go for oppurtunities to do amazing things, even if you know you'll pay for it down the line. When you work (or get swamped by homework) , do it in knowing that the work IS meaningful and that you are getting something out of it.

We grow up, we go to school, we work, but it doesn't have to be bad, and there is definitely a lot more out there. High school is only a very small part.

Anyway, about suicide, I do think its a cop out. Theres no reason to be looking THAT much forward to being reincarnated as a sea sponge.

If you end up being seventy, living in a hotel room in atlantic city, mooching off money from the three families that you have abandoned over the course of your life and gambling it all away, consider it then. but not before.

[EZ_Gyorg]

For me, HS was kinda just coasting. I'm fairly good at school so didn't need a lot of effort and just kinda hung around in the extra time. College was 4 years of hard work. When they say that you earn your degree, it's through blood sweat and tears.

That said, you don't need 100 on everything to get into a good college, get a good degree, and get a good job. First, as medic will point out, most college degrees are just to prove that you can get a degree. The exceptions are usually medical degrees, engineering, and scientist degrees where you'll probably get a job in your field. That said, you can't slack off and expect to learn. You have to understand how you learn and play to your advantages, (though this really isn't a big deal till college).

After you get out, I can't speak for long term experience since I've only been out a few months and but I'm enjoying it. I have fun at the work I do. I have money. And I have from 5pm to 7am and all weekends to do whatever the hell I want. (Love the federal government employment.)

As for religion, I didn't realize it's full use until my my sophomore year in HS. I didn't go to Mass my freshman year. My sophomore year I decided to go on my own and try to pay attention and learn from it and it definately helped a lot. It's a decision you have to make for yourself. And if you think you can skip it and pray completely on your own, you might consider it's not impossible to learn quantum physics, neurosurgery, or rocket engineering on your own, but it's a lot easier to be taught. And that you can go to classes on the subjects and not pay attention and still learn nothing, coming away like you just wasted your time. But most people would agree, going to classes, paying attention, and doing the suggested reading is the quickest, simplest, and easiest way to learn the subjects. --------------------------
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