Grithok
03-01-07, 08:07 PM
It works. It has worked before the last patch. It still works.
I was around the bunkers east of Khal and found a cleric soloing. I was stealthed, stayed far away, and watched. When the cleric started to rest, I started to move in from behind. By the time I got to him, he was up and turned to the left to grab something else. This is before smoke trick, so I turned to follow him. He paused just long enough for me to get ravage in. Before he could react, I got in back stab. His first reaction was to heal so I used blinding flash. Got in a wicked strike, and he was dead.
In order to use stealth you may need to understand how it works though in PvP.
The same as it works in PvE. Sneaking up infront of someone gets you a HIGH chance of being detected. Sneak up behind someone gets you a LOW to NO chance of being detected.
There is one more thing to it. If you are not hidden and try to sneak while close to an enemy, the only person who thinks you are stealthy is you.
Just pretend for a second this game has some elements of real life in it. And one more thing to pretend, stealth is not invisibility. Invisibility is where someone stares at where you are and doesn't see you but sees through you. Stealth is where someone stares at you and they see a bush, a tree, or grass.
If you are just as good at hiding as they are detecting, they are probably gonna notice a bush moving before you reach them. Now lets take a giant leap of faith here. Detection works much better infront of you than behind you. That is almost like you have eyes in the front of your head but not the back. With that leap of faith done, if you try to mimic some bush and sneak behind an enemy, they are not gonna notice that a bush is moving, since they don't see you. If they only glance in your direction, let say they do a 180 turn and happen to glance in your direction, they have a higher chance to see you but it is still slim.
What does this mean? Stealth works, just not like some people want. Some people want to be able to sneak up to someones face, or sneak until they are really really close to someone before they can spot them, because after all, rogues are stealthy, they are trained to get close and not be detected. Well in vanguard, other people are trained to detect stealthy people just as much as you are trained to be stealthy.
Does this make it harder than some other games? Yes. But is it broken in any way? No. Stealth just isn't invisibility. Use it to get to someone, but never away.
I was around the bunkers east of Khal and found a cleric soloing. I was stealthed, stayed far away, and watched. When the cleric started to rest, I started to move in from behind. By the time I got to him, he was up and turned to the left to grab something else. This is before smoke trick, so I turned to follow him. He paused just long enough for me to get ravage in. Before he could react, I got in back stab. His first reaction was to heal so I used blinding flash. Got in a wicked strike, and he was dead.
In order to use stealth you may need to understand how it works though in PvP.
The same as it works in PvE. Sneaking up infront of someone gets you a HIGH chance of being detected. Sneak up behind someone gets you a LOW to NO chance of being detected.
There is one more thing to it. If you are not hidden and try to sneak while close to an enemy, the only person who thinks you are stealthy is you.
Just pretend for a second this game has some elements of real life in it. And one more thing to pretend, stealth is not invisibility. Invisibility is where someone stares at where you are and doesn't see you but sees through you. Stealth is where someone stares at you and they see a bush, a tree, or grass.
If you are just as good at hiding as they are detecting, they are probably gonna notice a bush moving before you reach them. Now lets take a giant leap of faith here. Detection works much better infront of you than behind you. That is almost like you have eyes in the front of your head but not the back. With that leap of faith done, if you try to mimic some bush and sneak behind an enemy, they are not gonna notice that a bush is moving, since they don't see you. If they only glance in your direction, let say they do a 180 turn and happen to glance in your direction, they have a higher chance to see you but it is still slim.
What does this mean? Stealth works, just not like some people want. Some people want to be able to sneak up to someones face, or sneak until they are really really close to someone before they can spot them, because after all, rogues are stealthy, they are trained to get close and not be detected. Well in vanguard, other people are trained to detect stealthy people just as much as you are trained to be stealthy.
Does this make it harder than some other games? Yes. But is it broken in any way? No. Stealth just isn't invisibility. Use it to get to someone, but never away.