EverQuest RPG

[EZ_Teare Runebreaker]

Does anyone know whats going on with it. The players manuel is suppose to come out in july but verant's not talking about it at all.

[ShadowCross]

AFAIK (from several webpages) all is indicating that this will be the release date... ShadowCross Bladesong
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[EZ_Heartsong Steelsoul]

It BETTER be out in July, since they have games scheduled for Origins that first weekend...

[EZ_MUIDAS]

RPG is not on time so far. The webpage says shipping to stores 08/19/2002. Muidas Shatterspine
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Backstab; It's an Art, not a buttonEdited by: MUIDAS at: 6/19/02 2:43:08 pm

[EZ_Heartsong Steelsoul]

<rolls eyes> So that means we get to play with handouts of some draft copy or something? Grumble.

Heartsong

[EZ_Teare Runebreaker]

Umm for the uninformed what is Origins.

[EZ_Heartsong Steelsoul]

Origins is one of the major gaming conventions, along with Gencon. It's in Columbus, OH, and this year is over the fourth of july holiday weekend.

Web page: www.originsgames.com/

[EZ_namelessshaman]

I believe August release now, for a GenCon release.

[Llabak Tharr]

LOL just play Munchkins. That's all the EQ RPG you need

Kill the monsters, Grab the treasure, Stab your buddy

Sounds 'bout right Llabaktharr Gigglegiggler
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Can ya dig it?

[EZ_mikebridge]

yup, munchkins even cashed in on the expansion craze, gotta get the 2nd box worth of stuff!!! Talynn Raijinken
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Ranger - 12 - Prexus

[EZ_Heartsong Steelsoul]

Pretty well confirmed release date of August 17, and yes, those of us at Origins will be playing from printouts. On the other hand, the PDF's they have on the web page (www.eqrpg.com) make it look like a quality product.

[EZ_Heartsong Steelsoul]

Well, based on the games run at Origins... I can't tell much, because the games were BAD. I had one GM who had never played the online game, and one who told us he didn't know the rules too well, so really, I didn't learn much at all.

The mana system looks pretty neat. Bards can twist songs based on a perform skill check. weapon delay is represented by lowering the number you get a second attack at - standard is +6/+1, while you might have a fast weapon that makes it +5/+1.

[Dragynphyre]

Munchkin is fun. Although the OLDEST member of our gaming group stalked off saying "This game is STUPID" after we turned on him....

[EZ_namelessshaman]

Actually faster weapons speeds are supposed to reduce the number between attacks,
so if you have a +6/+1 attack bonus with a weapon that has a standard weapon speed, that becomes a +6/+2 with a fast weapon , and +6/+3 with a very fast weapon, and likewise slower weapons reduce this, so with a +6/+1, using a slow weapon, you only get a +6 attack, the second attack is lost

lets take +10/+5 then
standard +10/+5
fast +10/+6/+2
very fast +10/+7/+4/+1
slow +10/+4
very slow +10/+3

[EZ_Heartsong Steelsoul]

Ah, I was close. Unfortunately, none of the demo characters HAD two attacks, so ... that was just what I got from my glancing at the book.

[DarthEnder]

Is this a D20 system?

[ShadowCross]

Yes, EQ RPG will be a D20 system, produced by Sword&Sorcery, a department of Wizards of the coast White Wolf...


Edit: Damn those mind flayers! Always fooling around with ones thoughts... Edited by: Shadowcross at: 7/23/02 3:37:18 pm

[EZ_Turlo]

Slight correction...S&S is working with White Wolf on EQD20, not WotC. Turlo LomonHalf-Elven Rogue (58)Grandmaster Fletcher (202)Master Smith (145)Master Brewer (190)Master Cook (146)Master Fisherman (185)Master Poisoner (197)Master Potter (188)Master Tailor (118)Apprentice Jeweler (87)

[ShadowCross]

ARgh.. something was influencing my mind! My mistake.

[Kroe]

must have been the mind control muffins I've secretly been sipping into the stockpile... errrr forget I said anything.

[ShadowCross]

I knew I shouldn't have eaten those mind-flayer-flavored muffins!

[DarthEnder]

So that means I'll be able to use the EQ beastiary in any D&D campaign yes?

[EZ_Kethaal]

Correct, all D20 material is interchangeable, with only minor *tweaks.*

(ie: getting a D&D character into SpyCraft would involve figuring out some specialized SpyCraft stuff, HP, etc.)

[ShadowCross]

Those "minor" tweaks might sometimes be "larger" though... e.g. EQRPG will use mana for spellcasting and has 30 levels per class... so it might take a bit to tweak npcs.. esp. if they are spellcasting ones...

[EZ_Heartsong Steelsoul]

Although I do get the impression that the first 20 levels of those EQ classes are comparable in power to the first 20 levels of standard D&D classes, S&S just decided to have ten "epic" levels. And now with the Epic Level Handbook out, I'm going to assume those ten levels of standard classes will be listed.

[ShadowCross]

And now with the Epic Level Handbook out,..

!!!

*hurries away*

[Kroe]

yeah the epic level handbook is a little tweaky. My roomate got it and I'm more and more confused everyday. something about epic level spell slots being skils instead of advanced spell slotas or something. i dunno I just stab things.

[EZ_Kethaal]

*nod* Kroe. Who needs spells? I just need to know how my attacks progress, and whether or not Monks get more cool abilities. lol

[EZ_namelessshaman]

30 levels in eqrpg != 30 levels in standard d20

the full 30 levels are standardized into the game, there's some nice stuff to be sure in those last 10 tens levels, but not like the epic book. Wether is stronger/weaker vs. epic is probably still to be seen.

[EZ_Heartsong Steelsoul]

I don't know, the interview at the web page mentions "However there's no doubt that characters in the world of Everquest can advance to epic levels of power and combat the gods themselves. We are representing that by having the character classes advance to 30, so basically there's 10 epic levels."

Sounds the same to me.

[EZ_Kethaal]

Players Handbook released yesterday. Got it yesterday. 380+ glossy, color pages. Beautiful, great rules, great interpretations. You can definately feel the micromanagement you're able to take in it, and how they made it "feel" like EQ computer game.

Very good value. 8.5/10 so far, I was depressed to see a lack of stats for some low-end "real" EQ items.

[EZ_Icebreaker]

Thing to remember is that EQRPG players handbook is NOT D20 its OGL thats why they can have different magic system different stats and character creation stuff.
The EQ Beastiery and DM's guide and all future modules will be D20 from the sounds of it tho...

[Kroe]

so the thing actually came out eh? Now I'll have to argue with my DM not to play it. Otherwise all he will do is go to work, play EQ, and play tabletop EQ.

At least he goes to work I suppose.

[EZ_namelessshaman]

I like the feat that gives you an extra spell slot :)

[ShadowCross]

Pre-Order of mine confirmed to have been shiped by Amazon today.. I guess I'll get it tomorrow.


Edit: Okay, got it now... first impression: THICK! It's almost 400 pages! Edited by: Shadowcross at: 8/23/02 2:39:56 am

[EZ_TheatreRat81]

I really like the new game. S&S definately managed to capture the feel of EQ and transfer it into a d20 game nicely. Picked up my copy of the PHB at the Boston Fan Faire and playtested the game with the guys from White Wolf with Jete and a few friends. Lots of fun. Definately like the new mana-based magic system as opposed to the standard D&D spells-per-day. Another nice touch - charts on how to transfer your online character to d20. Really nice job! Just wish the Monster Man. was coming out sooner! I want adventures to run!

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[EZ_DreamspinnerSethan]

This is beautiful . . .

Just lovely, but what's missing is a straight-out-of-the-book, soon-as-you-buy-it capacity for playing.

Ah well, now I can reference this for a vague idea of what spells spellcasters should be using on EverCamp, er, EverQuest

Anyone else see tons of 30th level pen and paper characters getting reved up to go 'camp' the Planes and finding out EverCamp is dead in the book?

[EZ_Heartsong Steelsoul]

Well, I'm pretty sure I'm not playing a demo game for people until I get a DMG, simply because if they like it, where do I go? Maybe even wait for MM...

Heartsong

[EZ_DreamspinnerSethan]

The Monstrous Manual is coming out earlier than the DMG for EverQuest P&P . . .

And the DMG is what has the Phat Lewts in it, so you will probably still be waiting two months to play . . .

On the plus side, you can always take a look at the existing world online and take cues from there on what to start with depending on your group's level and knowledge of Norrath.

(Are they level 60 uber-guildies tripped out in the 'best' armor and weapons to date? OR your mid 30's-to-mid-40's casual players who know a lot about the world other than 'this critter drops this'.)

If so inspired you can ignore what Verant has decided each zone's level is and run a game like off of Stormhammer: high level fun only, loot which is more useful for a P&P game than online . . . events which are not just beat up the bad guy and ninja-loot the corpse . . . and NO PHREAKING CAMPING . . .

[EZ_namelessshaman]

you can always use the monsters from the 3rd edition dnd in your eq game.

[Kroe]

hell yeah!

and as you crest the hill in Queynos hills you see holly windstalker striking down yet another new adventurer for trying to defend themselves from a viciouse wolf. Suddenly the Tarrasque leaps on her and devours her whole.



not that I spent a week when my shaman reached 30 killing holly windstalker for repeatedly killing every character I have started in queynos or anything.

[EZ_Matheren]

pssht holly killed one of my characters once from having a wolf, 10 feet away, aggroing on him - I never even got to be hit by the thing, she killed me before it reached me haha

maybe I need to get this and have holly become a shadowknight/druid, so my players can kill her.