Finished the Game(spoilers)

[EZ_Dramir]

I just finished NWN as a lvl 12 Paladin and a lvl 5 fighter and I wasnt too impressed with the ending. The 2 dragons before the final boss were much harder than her. Plus the ending kinda stunk because you couldnt go back and talk to Lord Nasher and Arin Ghend after you finished. Plus the loot in the last area was really pointless. Ooh 3 gold that I cant spend. Though I must say I really liked chapter 3. Having to turn the snow globe to talk to either the dwarfs or the druids was really clever. Plus I just love killing dragons.

Has anyone else finished the official campaign yet?

[DarthEnder]

Yep.

I managed to get Aribeth back to the good side though. And now we're an item. Not that they go into any of that in the crappy ending they give you.

And your right. the 2 dragon fight was WAY harder than Morag(once I figured out how to pierce her immunities).

[Dargesh]

Ok, I am stuck on the 2 Dragon fight. I am a 20 rogue using Dalean (sp) as my henchman and can't even get one of them to drop. Any suggestions?

[EZ_Dramir]

The only advice I have for the two dragons is to buff yourself to high heaven and stock up on heal potions. I think you can still use the stone of recall so just port out when you need to. Also, one of the dragons is weaker, examine them to find out which one it is and go for him first.

[EZ_Turlo]

I just finished the game yesterday. I agree, the ending did not feel complete to me. I wanted to see the townsfolk cheering me on.

But I did do something...I redeemed Aribeth!

[ShadowCross]

Having to turn the snow globe to talk to either the dwarfs or the druids was really clever.

So THAT'S how you do it.. D'oh! ShadowCross Bladesong
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[EZ_Seifyn Lushyfeet]

Shadow X was confuzzled by the snow globe :P


The dragons were easy. I split them up and raped 'em. The guards that she has with her.. her "hands" or whatever. That was tough. Seifyn Lushyfeet-56 Redeemed Blackguard!
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[ShadowCross]

Her hands were cake.. but it took me quite a while to figure out how to kill her defenses... finally got annoyed by them and started blasting Fireballs from a staff on mine into the group. That wounded 3 of them, so I continued until I ran out of charges and they were dead. Then I tried to kill the lighting one, but he was immune too (because of the proc on my weapon I guess).. so I started killing them with a fearsome ... Staff of Neg. Energy. Only 2-4 damage each shot, but they didn't have that much HP luckily.

[EZ_Zulian]

Hahah, I pity you guys :P
A couple Horrid Writhings took out all (or almost all, can't remember for sure, but all that I needed :P) the defeneses :P "Age and wisdom don't always go together, I've found. ... Some people just become stupid with more authority." -- Terry Pratchett

[EZ_TibisHatter]

I'm just about to go into the final battle when I stopped playing last night.

18 Fighter / 2 Rogue + Tomi Undergallows (without whom the game would have been a lot harder). Took two levels in rogue early on to get some sneak attack and evasion ability; those two things alone were worth the loss of 1 BAB and a fighter bonus feat.

The two dragon fight was a lot easier than I thought it would be - although I had managed to set my gear up so I had good defenses against what they could throw at me (immunity to mind-affecting spells, elemental resistances, high AC).

Cool things throughout the game - the foreboding to Aribeths Fall; gnomes liking "their pickles sour and their women tall"; the frequent amusing reactions to my characters low CHA (8); the Dwarf / Dryad episode in the Snow Globe; travelling back in time to introduce a single, telling flaw in otherwise invincible golems; shifting alignment between good / evil depending on actions (I ended with the alignment title: The Benefactor); tricking an ancient red dragon.

Things that irritated me: one henchman - no way to have a balance of abilities in the party; the trial in Chapter 4 where there appeared to be no way to get an acquittal; "Oh I can pick that open easy!"; loose interpretation of 3E D&D rules, especially several missing Feats (no Spring Attack? No Whirlwind?).

I think I managed to do most of the quests available, although I only hired Tomi all the way through so I didn't get any of the "Tales" of the other hirlings. I also was never able to find the "Ashes of a hero" for Tomi's last tale.

I'd also like to know what the spell the Duergar mages were throwing at me that had a spectral hydra waving about most of the screen for its duration. It didn't seem to affect me much, but it killed Tomi four times out of the five I wasn't able to stop it from being cast. Also, the spell that could blind me with no saving throw or resistance roll was frustrating as well. When that happened I pretty much had to Recall away for a cure.

Overall, single player has been fun.
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[ShadowCross]

I'd also like to know what the spell the Duergar mages were throwing at me that had a spectral hydra waving about most of the screen for its duration. It didn't seem to affect me much, but it killed Tomi four times out of the five I wasn't able to stop it from being cast.

That spell has been bugging me all the time too. It somehow involves a save vs. death - that much is sure. But I have no idea what it was supposed to be...

Any level 20 wizards/sorcerers around that could help us with this?

Edit: Okay, checked it by using the DM client and my D&D Player's Handbook. The spell is called "Weird", a level 9 version of "Phantasmal Killer"... Edited by: Shadowcross at: 7/15/02 9:16:50 am

[EZ_Hummerlein]

just beat it with a 7 rogue/9 fighter.

i thought it was a pretty cool ending, great story and stuff imo.

the ending was VERY expansion-able, too, i thought. it felt like they made the ending with an expansion in mind, or use of the nwn toolset. either way i thought it was cool

[EZ_Legna ValSharess]

The spell is called "Wierd"

Level 9 wizard/sorc spell.

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[EZ_Saluthyus]

Finished it out as an 18 rogue/2 fighter with Daelan as the henchman. The dragons were tough as hell to me but nothing a couple thousand gold worth of potions didn't fix. I think the problem was Daelan alwasy attacking the dragon I wasn't no matter what I told him to do. I hated the end though, I wanted to see more about Aribeth and my "feelings" and wanted to tell Nasher to give me a home and title in Neverwinter, after all I saved the world it's the least he could do. And I want that stupid amulet to work..level 26 restriction, that is just way beyond stupid of the desiginers, mistake or not.

Saluthyus

[EZ_Zulian]

Tibis, is it possible to find the guy innocent, I don't think anything happens though, it just raises the tension :P But what you have to find out (at least what I found out) is that the dead guy spiked the guy's drink with some sorta drug. "Age and wisdom don't always go together, I've found. ... Some people just become stupid with more authority." -- Terry Pratchett

[EZ_Hummerlein]

or you can bribe the guy at the bar and don't ever mention anything about alcohol, that gets him free too. you can tell by talking to him though, that there was some drug in his drink. he talks about how his senses were dulled by more than just alcohol and stuff.

[ShadowCross]

yeah, but I never got actual evidence for him being drugged. *shrug*

I just bribed two people and managed to get him free.

[EZ_TibisHatter]

Aye, I got a hint of that from one of the witnesses, but I couldn't track down any evidence for it. I've since looked over the Gamespot spoiler for that section and found that I couldn't have done anyway, as getting it involves casting a healing spell on one of the witnesses. Seeing as I did all of my healing with potions, there is no way I could have acquitted him without bribery, which I decided not to do.

[EZ_Hummerlein]

were you playing a rogue? i bet you could've pulled a use magic device on a heal scroll or wand or something

[EZ_Gereint]

Ooo, just found Tomi's ashes. It's in an urn in the Elk Tribes lair place. Right after you go in turn left and its th first little room on the right .. I *think*.4 Gereint the retired CanadRoguish FencerDrunken Bandits

[EZ_Hummerlein]

oh by the way (on that guy with the busted leg in chapter 2...healing kits work)

[EZ_Wynnie 0 Rodcet Nife]

Don't know if anyone figured this out but me, but the two dragon battle is made MUCH easier if you engage the two dragons so that they're on either side of you (which, if you run straight up when you enter the area, they will be), wait for one to use their breath weapon, and back off. The breath weapon will hit the other dragon, and after a moment of running, they'll begin to attack each other. You'll be left with a tough silver dragon, but it will usually be injured when it finishes off the other one. Syril - 42nd Level Enchantress
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[EZ_Wynnie 0 Rodcet Nife]

As for acquittal on the trial, I managed to do it without bribing, simply by talking through every option with all of the people involved in the trial beforehand, and then going through one trial-run (no pun intended) of the trial to see what responses did what. While I got him acquitted the first time, it was a 3-2 decision. The second time was a 5-0 decision which I believe garnered me a much better reward. I did have high wisdom during this, which may have opened up more options that others, but I stuck with mentioning the spiking of the drink, and NOT bringing up race issues. I found not hitting every option was much better in the trial ..

I can run through that part again and get specifics if you want Syril - 42nd Level Enchantress
Wynnie Frostdagger - 33rd Level Rogue

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[EZ_TibisHatter]

Aye, the Gamespot spoilers said as much ... problem is, there is a precedent for healing NPCs set by an earlier conversation in chapter 1 or chapter 2 where you give the NPC a cure light wounds potion. Because I don't keep healing kits on me (I used potions pretty much exclusively), I tried giving him a cure potion but got "You cannot barter with this NPC".

Ah well, if I ever play the single player campaign again, I'll know what to do.

[EZ_BD Nightfall]

I was dissapointed that the end was so easy. At the dragons my henchman (Daelen) died, but I killed both with using only like 1 or 2 potions and Lay Hands. Then Morag's henchmen could barely touch me and Morag was even weaker...Lvl 16 Paladin- 46AC, 156 HPs, weilding Astral Blade +2. I have the difficulty set to Very Difficult also. I dunno, maybe having such a high AC really affected how easy the fights were.

[EZ_Hummerlein]

jeez 46 ac! i had like 20 max. morag was easy anyway, though.

fyi aribeth's challenge rating dealy is higher than morag's. his is 25, aribeth's is 28 with 18 cleric levels and 20 paladin levels.

was peeking into stuff trying to figure out how to get henchmen to respawn at the temple of tyr...not looking at jiggly boobies...really

[EZ_Rasil Sabishi]

The fights were trivial with 20th cleric and using 14th level fighter henchman. The two dragon one particularly was trivial since harm has no saving throw...

"Oh look, two angry dragons..." Touch... whack... dead... Touch... whack... Dead...

Just a touch attack and at level 20 I had a 27 attack as a cleric so it's not like you actually miss a whole hell of a lot.

However, summoning a balor into a room full of badies is fun for the whole family... hearing 'I WILL REND YOUR SOUL' and seeing exp fly by is quite entertaining . Challenging? No. Amusing? Most certainly.

The end fight was interesting since I blew a lot of spells during the initial encounter with the cleric and his 6(?) buddies, and wasn't able to rest, recall, or rebuff. That and Dealen got whacked during the first 5 seconds of the final battle. All the sudden I make my saving throw vs. death and he vanishes.. 'Erp!"

But even at that, it was still pretty simple. I even walked through the sword barrier (didn't realize you had to kill the statue) and only took 201 points of damage. Well, 201 is a lot but I still had some left . I love my cleric buffs...

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[EZ_Dramir]

hehe...I remember during the final battle Tomi committed suicide by running into the sword barrier to attack the statues...hehe it was really funny to see "Time for halfling death!" and then see him get splattered by the swords

[EZ_TibisHatter]

Aye, that happened to me as well - ironically funny, if mildly annoying.