View Full Version : This just in: Kefka still awesome.
DarthEnder
09-13-09, 03:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Bgq36lWMLw
Yeah he is!
Pratell
09-13-09, 07:59 AM
i hope those subtitles were super bad.
also kefka sounds like buggy the clown.
edit: wikipedia says IT REALLY IS buggy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Bgq36lWMLw
Yeah he is!
Kefka is the best video game villain ever.
DarthEnder
09-13-09, 01:21 PM
Son of a submariner!
Lenilya
09-13-09, 01:44 PM
He also has one of the best themes ever.
Son of a submariner!
www.sonofasubmariner.com (http://www.sonofasubmariner.com)
He also has one of the best themes ever.
I totally jam out to Kefka's 8-bit theme on midi.
likenew
09-13-09, 11:28 PM
Terra had green hair though, Celes was the blonde.
Lenilya
09-14-09, 02:34 AM
Her hair has a very light green tint that the video doesn't show very well.
DarthEnder
09-14-09, 02:56 AM
Ahem...there's SAND on my boots!
Life... dreams... hope... Where'd they come from? And where are they headed...? These things... I'm going to destroy!
And of course I've gotta show off my parody of "Hey There Delilah", titled "Hey There Kefka", again.
http://semental.deviantart.com/art/Hey-There-Kefka-65897695
Her hair has a very light green tint that the video doesn't show very well.
So Terra went swimming in a chlorinated pool too long?
Pyrocat Moonstalker
09-14-09, 01:16 PM
He also has one of the best themes ever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmmZyTwVVqY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmmZyTwVVqY
Damn you. Damn you to hell. How am I supposed to get work done now instead of looping this while I put on my jester outfit and prance around the room plotting world destruction?
Her hair has a very light green tint that the video doesn't show very well.
In the concept art both Celes and Terra were blondes(That is kind of Amano's thing, androgynous blondes). Terra's hair was changed in the sprites because Squaresoft was worried that players wouldn't be as easily able to differentiate the two in-game. Dissidia is based off the original artwork for characters(generally Amano)
Also, Kefka was never awesome. Ultros and Siegfried are way better, just in FFVI
DarthEnder
10-01-09, 12:30 AM
Oh yeah, I totally remember that part where Ultros and Siegfried DESTROYED THE WORLD!
No wait, that was Kefka.
Lenilya
10-01-09, 03:04 AM
In the concept art both Celes and Terra were blondes(That is kind of Amano's thing, androgynous blondes). Terra's hair was changed in the sprites because Squaresoft was worried that players wouldn't be as easily able to differentiate the two in-game. Dissidia is based off the original artwork for characters(generally Amano)
Also, Kefka was never awesome. Ultros and Siegfried are way better, just in FFVI
meh, gimmie green hair for terra damn it
Oh yeah, I totally remember that part where Ultros and Siegfried DESTROYED THE WORLD!
No wait, that was Kefka.
Really, cause I don't remember that. I remember the world being mostly okay for over a year after Kefka moved some statues around. I mean the guy tried to out and out kill everybody in Mobliz, but couldn't hurt the children because they were in the basement. I also remember that the only reason the world was really messed up was that the statues' energies were running rampant and that their energies were destroyed when my group curbstomped Kefka, thus letting the planet return to normal.
Kefka is a joke. He doesn't tell them, and it isn't the "haha" kind of joke either.
The statues' energies were perfectly balanced, but Kefka did some feng shui and threw them off balance. The world was very quickly thrown into ruin in a manner similar to Ragnarok (mythological, not the esper/sword) while Nero played a fiddle Kefka laughed like the madman he was.
The vast majority of the human population is dead. Espers are on the verge of extinction. You feel refreshed, but you're still hungry. (Sorry, that was another game.)
Later on, Kefka appears to have either absorbed the aforementioned energies or figured out a way to channel and drain them, becoming god-like in his power.
After Kefka was defeated, magic disappeared from the world. The world did not return to normal (aka. The World of Balance). Even Terra, who was half esper, had magic forcefully ripped from her, turning her fully human.
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The reason the statues were positioned the way they were was so that each statue would be negated by the other two. When pushed around for Kefka's evil Feng Shui, that balance was destroyed letting the energy damage the world and warp some of the local wildlife. Kefka absorbed that energy, which is also the source of magic/espers. When he was beaten, the statues' energy will no longer be coiled around the world damaging the ecosystem.
The continental arrangement won't be changed back, but the plant life will start to grow along with less mutations of the wildlife. The magic of the world disappearing is almost for the best, as the energy of the statues/Kefka(after draining them) could be envisioned like nuclear fallout, but the destruction of Kefka/magic is like all the fallout is removed from the world immediately rather than over hundreds of years.
Hummerlein
10-02-09, 09:09 PM
ultros is still cooler.
DarthEnder
10-03-09, 11:14 PM
The reason the statues were positioned the way they were was so that each statue would be negated by the other two. When pushed around for Kefka's evil Feng Shui, that balance was destroyed letting the energy damage the world and warp some of the local wildlife. Kefka absorbed that energy, which is also the source of magic/espers. When he was beaten, the statues' energy will no longer be coiled around the world damaging the ecosystem.
The continental arrangement won't be changed back, but the plant life will start to grow along with less mutations of the wildlife. The magic of the world disappearing is almost for the best, as the energy of the statues/Kefka(after draining them) could be envisioned like nuclear fallout, but the destruction of Kefka/magic is like all the fallout is removed from the world immediately rather than over hundreds of years.It's still way more than any other Final Fantasy villain ever accomplishes.
Sure, they're all trying to destroy time and smash rocks in the planet, but to any of them ever get that far? No! They always get defeated before they can do jack ****.
Kefka unleashes his cataclysm and gets to spend a whole year sitting high on the hog before your pathetic heroes finally stop wallowing in self pity long enough to go after him.
It's still way more than any other Final Fantasy villain ever accomplishes.
Sure, they're all trying to destroy time and smash rocks in the planet, but to any of them ever get that far? No! They always get defeated before they can do jack ****.
Kefka unleashes his cataclysm and gets to spend a whole year sitting high on the hog before your pathetic heroes finally stop wallowing in self pity long enough to go after him.
Ultimecia ruled the world for an indefinite amount of time in the future after conquering the world in her own time, and only got beat when she tried to use Time Compression to take over the past as well. Since Kefka held the world for only a year, Ultimecia wins over Kefka.
Chaos and the fiends had established a 2000 year time loop of victory for what amounts to an infinite amount of time, until the one time the Light Warriors break it. Chaos wins over Kefka in accomplishment.
Exdeath merged with the Void for complete control over life and death(still managing to lose, which is embarrassing but understandable). Exdeath wins in accomplishment.
Kuja was never actually beaten by the party, and nuked a planet in a more devastating way than Kefka ever will. Kuja wins over Kefka too.
DarthEnder
10-05-09, 02:50 PM
I don't buy the Ultimecia, Exdeath, Chaos arguments. I mean, you claim they ruled the world for large portions of time, but none of them are in control during the time in which the players live. If they control all of time, why are their armies always mid-conquest during the majority of the game?
Especially with the time people, while you could say they always were in control, when they get beaten by the heroes, everything they ever accomplished gets unwritten, so you could just as easily say they were NEVER in control.
Even after Kefka is defeated, all the damage he did is still there.
Kuja loses to Kefka cause he looks like a doofus, even in his "badass transformation" form.
If by "badass transformation" form you mean "looks like a furry" form
See my avatar, Kefka is awesome
Kuja loses to Kefka cause he looks like a doofus, even in his "badass transformation" form.
I'm totally with you on the Kefka support but... really? Kefka DOESN'T look like a doofus?
Dude's a clown
I don't buy the Ultimecia, Exdeath, Chaos arguments. I mean, you claim they ruled the world for large portions of time, but none of them are in control during the time in which the players live. If they control all of time, why are their armies always mid-conquest during the majority of the game?
Ultimecia was in control in the far future of FFVIII. She conquered the world in her own time, but decided afterward she wasn't satisfied, so she sends herself back in time to take over all times, future and past. The thing is, that even with the defeat of Ultimecia in FFVIII, she will still end up rising to power in the far future, and controlling it until she decides to try her Time Compression gambit.
Chaos is a bit different. Garland is defeated by the light warriors, who have risen to bring light to the crystals. The fiends send him back in time 2000 years, where he defeats the warriors of the past and achieves his power as Chaos. He rules over the past and sends the fiends forward so that they can send Garland back.
Exdeath's fusion with the Void happens during his game, but he still gets two worlds combined into one. Which changes the landscape far more than the Statues do.
Especially with the time people, while you could say they always were in control, when they get beaten by the heroes, everything they ever accomplished gets unwritten, so you could just as easily say they were NEVER in control.
Even after Kefka is defeated, all the damage he did is still there.
All the environmental damage will be undone once magical energy stops coiling around the world. The continents will still be moved, but that just means that people in Mobliz will be able to walk or ride to Nikeah instead of taking the current. The movement of the continents was more of a facelift, the real problem was the magical energy of the Statues(kefka after he drains them)slowly killing the wildlife. With the destruction of magic in the world of FFVI, the world will recover.
Kuja loses to Kefka cause he looks like a doofus, even in his "badass transformation" form.
You can't seriously be claiming somebody loses to Kefka, of all people, because they look like a doofus. Kefka is a joke, and looks like a mixture of a clown and a wimpy dandy.
Dude's a clown
looks like a mixture of a clown and a wimpy dandy.
That's why he wins, hands down.
DarthEnder
10-05-09, 10:10 PM
I'm totally with you on the Kefka support but... really? Kefka DOESN'T look like a doofus?
Dude's a clownSo's the Joker. Who's more badass than the Joker? Nobody!
Besides, Kefka's final form is superbadass.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/6/6b/KefkaFigurine.JPG
So's the Joker. Who's more badass than the Joker? Nobody!
Besides, Kefka's final form is superbadass.
*snip rocket gas pic*
Maybe that image might not be the best choice- Rocket gas being less intimidating than one would hope.
PsiKoTicK
10-06-09, 10:37 AM
Just wanted to say:
Are we REALLY having this debate? This may be worse than Star Wars vs Star Trek, or Wolverine vs anything, or Batman vs anything, etc.
This is the penultimate geekdom thread. Truly. You have amazed me.
Penultimate? That certainly leaves me wondering... if none of those are the ultimate, WHAT IS?
Just wanted to say:
Are we REALLY having this debate? This may be worse than Star Wars vs Star Trek, or Wolverine vs anything, or Batman vs anything , etc.
omg Batman Vs. Kefka
This is the penultimate geekdom thread. Truly. You have amazed me.
Safehouse wins again. Or is that loses?
PsiKoTicK
10-06-09, 12:08 PM
omg Batman Vs. Kefka
Wolverine vs Kefka?
PsiKoTicK
10-06-09, 12:09 PM
Safehouse wins again. Or is that loses?
I think it's both, somehow. We win at being geeks. But to the rest of the world... that's losing.
DarthEnder
10-06-09, 01:09 PM
This is the penultimate geekdom thread. Truly. You have amazed me.that's a damn lie and you know it.
http://www.thesafehouse.org/forums/showthread.php?t=22552
I don't know, I think discussing Final Fantasy is nerdier than Wolverine and Star Wars.
Even people living under rocks have heard of Star Wars. If I asked a random stranger on the street about Kefka or even just FF, they would have no clue what I was talking about.
DarthEnder
10-07-09, 12:07 AM
I don't know, I think discussing Final Fantasy is nerdier than Wolverine and Star Wars.Individually, perhaps. But TOGETHER, they're power increases exponentially.
PsiKoTicK
10-07-09, 04:58 AM
Individually, perhaps. But TOGETHER, they're power increases exponentially.
No. Star Wars is pop culture mainstream, as is Wolverine, and even Batman.
Final Fantasy is not. The closest to mainstream was The Spirits Within, and we all know how that went (I enjoyed it, but it was not well received).
And the fact that we're arguing over whether someone taking over the world in the future then sending themselves back in time to take over the present/past whatever... way way past Star Wars and/or Wolverine, even combined.
No. Star Wars is pop culture mainstream, as is Wolverine, and even Batman.
Final Fantasy is not. The closest to mainstream was The Spirits Within, and we all know how that went (I enjoyed it, but it was not well received).
And the fact that we're arguing over whether someone taking over the world in the future then sending themselves back in time to take over the present/past whatever... way way past Star Wars and/or Wolverine, even combined.
How nerdy is discussing how nerdy discussing something that is nerdy is? What level of nerdiness have we reached? Some kind of meta-nerdiness?
DarthEnder
10-07-09, 07:54 AM
No. Star Wars is pop culture mainstream, as is Wolverine, and even Batman.While it's true those things exist in pop culture mainstream, actually having a DISCUSSION about those things is still purely nerdy. A normal person simply watches those things. Having an argument over the way the Star Wars universe would interact with the Marvel comics universe is something only the nerdiest of nerds would do. And is even more nerdy than an argument that takes place wholely within a single video game series.
I think Psiko and I disagree with you, Darth.
How do we determine who is the Nerd Referee? Would we try to find the nerdiest person ever and have them determine what is nerdiest? Or would we try to find the *least* nerdy person ever?
I think Psiko and I disagree with you, Darth.
How do we determine who is the Nerd Referee? Would we try to find the nerdiest person ever and have them determine what is nerdiest? Or would we try to find the *least* nerdy person ever?
The nerdiest person ever would be too socially anxious to talk.
The least nerdiest person ever would refuse, wholeheartedly, to engage on the subject.
We're at a loss, I think.
No. Star Wars is pop culture mainstream, as is Wolverine, and even Batman.
Final Fantasy is not. The closest to mainstream was The Spirits Within, and we all know how that went (I enjoyed it, but it was not well received).
And the fact that we're arguing over whether someone taking over the world in the future then sending themselves back in time to take over the present/past whatever... way way past Star Wars and/or Wolverine, even combined.
Given that this is a site designed originally as a discussion/gathering of 1 class in Everquest, I think any number of complaints threads about our in-game avatars not being as peachy-keen as other in-game avatars are still slightly nerdier than a discussion on FF villains. Ah, the good old days, when EQ Rogues were red-headed step-children, instead of badass ninjas.
You people are all way to mainstream. The nerdiest person will refuse to discuss Star Wars, Final Fantasy or anything like that any more - not because they don't know it, no they'll still be able to quote ship speeds and creature stats - but because they realize that the best series ever was some obscure sci-fi series from the 1960s that was shown only in 3 provinces in Japan before it was canceled after only 19 episodes. This person will have written 12 different 9 page posts on the series comparing them step by step with every major geek series or movies pointing out in excruciating detail scene by scene why their show is superior. It's ok though, this nerdiest of all humans would refuse to arbitrate anyway on the grounds that clearly they are right and anyone who disagrees with them is clearly wrong, unintelligent and has no taste whatsoever. I mean people, please, how can you claim FF or Star Wars are nerdy when there's actual women with female parts who like them? If we ever find this ultra-nerd he'll be completely unwilling to acknowledge anything supposedly nerdy that has women dressing up as characters without being paid by the hour to do so could possibly be nerdy.