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EZ_Maneranae
10-30-03, 10:29 PM
how are the VZ and TZ different during the script?

EZ_Assling Hero
10-30-03, 10:39 PM
Try them... if you can kill the real TZ/VZ, you shouldn't have a problem with them from the RZ script.

EZ_Salinor
10-31-03, 06:43 AM
TZ doesnt warp around, but otherwise the same. VZ hits harder, and splits a couple times.

EZ_mikebridge
10-31-03, 07:34 AM
but they will warp if they are moved past the halfway points in the side halls. quite annoying, make sure to control aggro.

EZ_Kalledar
10-31-03, 09:34 AM
VZ in script only splits once, compared to what 4 times on real VZ? TZ in script can be a lot more dangerous if you suck at aggro control. If not, then he's much, much easier in my opinion. Some people will say to use a SK or Paladin to tank TZ for aggro, but it's not necessary. You can use any of the 3 tank classes to tank him.

EZ_GukMonster
10-31-03, 09:43 AM
It's more reliable to use an SK or Pal.

EZ_Saruton
10-31-03, 10:14 AM
VZ splits twice.

EZ_Kalledar
10-31-03, 12:55 PM
He splits once, which creates 2 more VZ's. That's what I meant. Real VZ splits 4 or 5 times, which creates 5 more VZ's per split.

EZ_Saruton
11-01-03, 03:20 PM
He splits twice. Though the time between the splits is quite short or lets say the health % at which they spawn is very close together.

EZ_Kalledar
11-01-03, 11:10 PM
/shrug they appear at roughly the same time.

EZ_Eelyen
11-03-03, 12:29 PM
Tallon Zek is pretty much exactly the same as the real TZ in Tactics. Only main difference is that he doesn't Shadowstep around like the real one. He is on a leash though and will warp back to Rallos Zek's room if he hits his leash. This can have unexpected results. Whether his HP are greater or lesser then the real TZ's. I can't say as we have 2 different strats to deal with this guy. But my guess is they are the same. But I believe the RZ version is ALOT easier.

Vallon Zek does infact hit harder then the real one, but not by much. He has the same AE has the real one also. He does have 2 copies split off from him during the fight.

EZ_rainnestorme
11-04-03, 06:24 AM
TZ is not on a leash, VZ is. And VZ doesn't have an AE, TZ does. Edited by: rainnestorme at: 11/4/03 5:25 am

EZ_yoswamp
11-04-03, 07:13 AM
They are both on a leash, if your certain otherwise you just haven't pulled them far enough. They also both have an AE, granted VZ's is pretty minor.

EZ_Eatbugs
11-04-03, 08:36 AM
Quote:Tallon Zek is pretty much exactly the same as the real TZ in Tactics. Only main difference is that he doesn't Shadowstep around like the real one.

That and he has a single target aggro debuff proc and a large AE DD proc. The AE can be avoided if you stay at max melee range. The "real" TZ is considerably easier in my experience, although the fake isn't that tough once you get used to him.

EZ_rainnestorme
11-04-03, 09:01 AM
Well I guess since TZ pops right near where we kill the trigger and it runs at you, I never considered a leash. VZ on the other hand, if you try and pull it too far you'll know what happens.

As for VZ ae, well I've stood beside VZ about a dozens times and never noticed, maybe Im resisting it. TZ on the other hand you'll know when you're too close

EZ_Eelyen
11-04-03, 09:19 AM
Quote:That and he has a single target aggro debuff proc and a large AE DD proc. The AE can be avoided if you stay at max melee range. The "real" TZ is considerably easier in my experience, although the fake isn't that tough once you get used to him.

Actually the "real" TZ does this as well.

And it's not a Large AE DD proc. His biggest one is only 50 range. His other 3 arrows are 2 AE's at 30 range and 1 single target. One of the arrows has a aggro debuff, one of them has a slow.

The "real" TZ has the exact same arrows.