Can anyone cofirm this rumor??!?!

[EZ_ALIVE onLINe]

ok, I just hear some rumor about skill effect

Question 1
If I train my stealth to 50, am i better than these who only train to 40 but with item and RP add it to 50 ??

Question 2
I hear that with enveom+ item, I can get the poison for the lvl after +item, if I only train to 14 and wear a +1 enveom item
i can use lv15 poison, is this correct ??

Question 3
if Q2 is yes, do these apply to stealth ?
if i train to 39 and wear +1 stealth item, do i get safefall 4 ??

Craze

[EZ_Valarauco]

1. No.
2. Yes.
3. No.

Envenom is an exception to the rule that +spec bonuses never give you abilities/styles/spells.

[EZ_Shandray]

Okay, basing my understanding of stealth solely on this board, it is a complete waste to train stealth above 39 if one can can get +11item stealth by level 50.
Is there absolutely ANY reason whatsoever that any 50 assassin class should train stealth above 39?
I assume anyone who does is a fool. Am I right? hehe

-Shandray

[EZ_Wirt]

Higher safefall. Perhaps new abilities added later. I, for one, am going to 50 stealth natural. But I believe I am a fool, and I'm not recommending this for others...I just like the idea of max stealth. =P

[EZ_Dither DAoC]

safe fall 4 not worth it. no damage taken from keeps at safe fall 3. im stopping at 36 stealth up until i hit 50, my final points will go into envenom unless somewhere it comes out that Realm rewards aren't seperate from items. Dither Disgustipated
Kobold Shadowblade
Ragnarok, Palomides

[EZ_NummieS]

Hey guys... I know this has gone back and forth tons and have seen natural level 50s post how they dont see the difference.....

But have any quantifiable tests been done with someone at natural 50 vs a 39 with +11 bonuses? I haven't seen any posts that show hard tests have been done....

Like a sprint test with both moving from point A to B at the same time to see if there is a difference in speed?
Like facing each other and marking off when someone looses vision of the target?

Dont know what else you can test that would show hard data here........ *shrug*


... its just one of those things that is nagging me..... especially when i see all the great data on our damage in CS and poisons.


Nummie Shinsplitter
High Priest of Bristlebane
Club FU

Saresh LvL 35 Infiltrator
Numms LvL 12 Cleric
Miradia LvL 13 Wizardess
Forgotten Truth (Palomides)

[EZ_Kevintest]

1. Yes - sort of.
Stealth - and most skills - give a bonus by overspeccing. It's a VERY small edge - not easily noticeable. You can spot it by parsing damage logs sometimes.

So if you have two L50 infils, one with 39 stealth and the other with 50 stealth, both with +10 in bonuses, the one with 50 base stealth will move faster and be harder to see.

As a side note: it's very possible to get over +11 bonuses right now; it was recently revealed that item and RP bonuses to not add up to the item +11 cap. A person can have +9 from RP bonuses (in theory, anyway - that would be a LOT of RPs!!!) AND still get a +11 from items - for a max total of +20.

Kevin
Theurgist and Wizard Team Lead