20, 21 or 23 for the dual wield/celtic dual bonus.

[EZ_Pemolis]

The Subject says it.

Whats the spec requirement for the bonus.

[EZ_Squink McPoke]

What bonus?

Testing indicates that the celtic dual/dual wield % formula is:

25 + ( 0.25 x char level ) + ( 0.5 x spec level ) -- Huff McTuff, 41 Nightshade, Pendragon
-- Nightshade Team Lead

[EZ_Pemolis]

I heard that if you spec over (I believe it was 20 but thats what I am asking) in celtic dual/dual wield, you get a dual wield bonus. WHich means you should have more sucessful dual wields. They set a number of the mininum skill points needed to get this bonus (low 20's). It was in a patch I think 2 months ago when they were working on dual wielding.

I'll look for it.

[EZ_Pemolis]

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Dark Age of Camelot

Version 1.43B Test Release Notes

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- Dual wield and Celtic dual wield percentages have been increased slightly. Lower level (pre-20th) dual-wielding classes won't notice much difference, but up at the higher levels, you'll notice that you attack much more often with both weapons.

[EZ_Valarauco]

It says "level", not "spec". Look at Huff's formula again.

[EZ_Caith Caidh]

Also notice the "much difference" line. By Huff's formula, there will be a difference pre 20th - However, it will be a much smaller difference. (At most 5% more at 20, as opposed to 12.5% more at 50)

[EZ_Jammermon]

Huff's Formulae works out to a Max cap of 63% of time dual attacking.

Base 25%
50 spec +25%
1/4 Level 13%


Since weapon, CS, stealth are all MANDATORY I believe your choice is between envenom and DW/CD.

In 15 seconds at Skill 50 an Envenom Assassin will do 370 extra points damage.

In 15 seconds a fully specc'ed DW/CD will do and extra 306 points damage. (Note thats extra 63% dual vs 38% Duel Wield). Thats allowing for FAST weapons. If you prime hand a slower weapon this will fall of dramatically (158 extra points damage with a Guarded Rapier for instance).

As the above poster says, it's close enough to be your call. But the Poisons also allow disease, enervating , and some day mebbe the slow poison won't be a useless waste of coin.

Jammer

[EZ_Valarauco]

Just pointing out that for the same cost of taking a spec from 47-50 (+3), you can take a spec (Celtic Dual, for instance) from 1-20 (+19). A template of (roughly) 40/40/40/35/20 will end up well, regardless of which spec is associated with which number (unless the 20 is weaponskill).