Druids

[EZ_Sylvanos]

I just don't understand this class at all anymore. =/
magelo

[EZ_Bella Donna]

Pretty easy to understand.

Outdoors:

Snare it. DoT it. Loot it.

or

Snare it. Snare 3 more. AoE them. Loot them.

If immune to snare:

DoT it. Outrun it. Loot it.

If immune to snare and summons:

Charm a pet. Attack with pet. DoT after attack. Loot. Kill or keep pet, all up to personal preference.

Indoors:

Group.

Hoping for a different answer? Perhaps a little more meat in the topic would help direct us.

"The smyler with the knyf under the cloke."

Geoffrey Chaucer Edited by: Bella Donna at: 1/15/03 3:44:30 pm

[EZ_Kindreth]

Healing seems to be the primary role for my druid now.

Sometimes we nuke.. KinDred & Kindreth Trinity
Undaunted
Xegony

[EZ_Lemac Dushae]

Massive elemental resistance group buffs?
Transport?
Damage shields?
Cabbage?
Regen?

Last I checked the druids on my raids were kept plenty busy, healing aside.

[EZ_Aaliane]

IMO, Druids are becoming a bit useless. As for the big raids, the only buff a druid is good for is Cos (providing they don't have all their 63-65 spells, which most don't). As for potg - MGB BoA is always used at raids I've been on. I could probably write a lot of pages on the subject, but I'm not here to start a rant. Just stating my opinion.

Aaliane Wyndryder
62nd Druidess of Tunare

Hyyde - 33rd season Rogue

[EZ_Sylvanos]

I asked because I just can't keep up with the groups I run with these days. It's like being at one of the orc camps at level 7.

Guess I've always thought of druids as able to be more than an out of mana back-up healer in a regular experience group.

I'll charge up to 65, and get all my healing AA's, perhaps then I'll be able to better flesh out my role in a group(PoP flavor).
magelo

[EZ_Aaliane]

Actually, my earlier post was a bit harsh. I was thinking more in lines with big raids. You can still bring a lot to a group. Basically, you fill in whatever class isn't there. Before the last patch, I was primary healer in a lot of PoV groups. The patch seems to have stopped that. Too much agro with no way to reduce agro. Nuke, dot whatever you like really. No mage in group - you provide DS. Situation changes with every group. As long as you pull your own weight in the group and have fun, you be fine. Druid is a fun class to play. Just learn your personal strengths and wekanesses.

Aaliane Wyndryder
62nd Druidess of Tunare

Hyyde
33rd season Rogue

[EZ_Regnon]

HeH, I never run out of things to do, and casters on the raids i go on prefer PoTG for the mana regen.

I play primary healer and have been in a lot of CH chains.
I nuke, Dot, resist buff and debuff mobs. I am kept pretty darn busy. Almost forgot, when no mage around add DS to MT. Regnon 58 Druid
Yabba, Dabba, Do....Fred Flintstone.

[EZ_Ishinru BlenderMonk]

My druid's not PoPable yet... only 49, so this might not apply. But for levels 20-49 my role has been the same in groups, just different (better!) spells used.

From Seb group that had a cleric and ranger:
1- debuff (fixation of Ro)
2- debuff (Ro's fiery sundering)
3- DoT 1 (creeping crud)
4- DoT 2 (immolate)
5- Nuke 1 (Fire)
6- STR/DS/Banish/Cure/...
7- Pack Regen
8- Succor

have click-Droons of Doom so I opted for that instead of drifting death. mobs died too fast.. only 1 in 10 DoTs would wear off.

If no cleric, then most of the slots become useless as the wimpy-ass 300 point heal sucks unless you are healing a monk that is tanking primarily light-blues to him (god bless Mend)... can't wait for 51 heal.

If no ranger, replace secondary dots and nukes with Root and Ensnare.

[EZ_Trist McHairfoots]

druids are just a fun class to play despite how useful they are in raids or groups(though I think they are extremely useful in groups as they can nuke very effectively and heal very effectively).
I, for one, never ever get bored or caught sitting around with nothing to do as a druid. We can solo a large variety of things in a large variety of ways one minute and then go and then go be in the CH cycle another.

[EZ_beastmaze]

ok on Raid
you do one or a few of those things.
CCH
You nuke if mana permit
You MGB PoTn and the cleric MGB symbol and EVERYONE are happy, except for paladins but who care about them.
It's about time that all the noobs will stop telling everyone how uber is BoA/HoV they SUCKS, you get 9 more mana regen for all raid + more Hp, so less down time.
You PoS (cos upgrade)
You Heal your Group
You Pull.
You MGB heal.
Your on radiant watch.

In short if your in a raid and you feel useless then one of the following is true
a) It's time you stop raiding orc camps and move to something harder.
b) You missing some data on your class
c) You should move to a new guild since your current one have no idea how to max out the guild potantial.


Beasthealer druid 65
darkmoon

[EZ_Sylvanos]

Just need to get myself 65 and 100+ aa's I guess.
magelo

[EZ_beastmaze]

Sylvanos
just for ur info i been in rading guilds for the last 20 months starting at level 54, when i started my guild was moslty level 60 with me the lowest and i never felt un useful.
But with ur way of thinking no wander you feel useless.
Beasthealer druid 65
darkmoon

[EZ_Fanra]

Druids can be useful. But you have to be willing to play them the way they are. Just remember that you are rarely going to be the first choice for the situation. Main use for a 58+ druid is as the cleric replacement. Of course a real cleric is much better at healing but if there is not one around, you can fill in under most conditions.

You do get some spells that have their uses. Hand of Ro and the Ro debuff line comes in handy. But you have to watch your aggro with them since they really piss mobs off. The Ro line has its main use in lowering the fire resist so that others can nuke for full but since it is a small amount of mana, I tend to use it also for the lower ATK / AC, even though I have no idea if it is helping at all, really.

If we have a cleric in the group, then my job becomes backing them up and being the Emergency Response Team. Usually, I keep myself at close to full mana at all times and just wait in case something goes wrong. Then I jump in with plenty of heals, root some adds and if all fails, evac.

Playing a druid has become less fun due to nerfs that have no logic behind them but it still can be fun. You just have to adjust to the fact that you are not usually the first choice for the job. If you want to play a character that is really wanted, you need to make a shaman.

Every character has their job to do and you need to pick one that makes you happy. For druids, 58+ means you mostly heal. At least the way I play. I know that the objective is to keep the group alive and my nukes and such are really too lame to make much difference, while healing the heavy DPS dudes lets us kill the mobs and survive. There might not be much glory in being healer or ERT but those I group with tend to appreciate my ubar skillz :) Fanra
61 Hobbit Druid
Officer - EQ Jesters Guild (Bertoxxulous server)

"Whoa! Now you're shooting a gun at your imaginary friend
near four hundred gallons of nitroglycerine."
- Tyler Durden

[EZ_Sancta Nox]

Pretty easy to understand.

Outdoors:

Snare it. DoT it. Loot it.

or

Snare it. Snare 3 more. AoE them. Loot them.

If immune to snare:

DoT it. Outrun it. Loot it.

If immune to snare and summons:

Charm a pet. Attack with pet. DoT after attack. Loot. Kill or keep pet, all up to personal preference.

Indoors:

Group.

Hoping for a different answer? Perhaps a little more meat in the topic would help direct us.


"The smyler with the knyf under the cloke."
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Lol I can solo just as easy indoors as I do outdoors they dont limit us much indoors hehe


Sancta Nox

Level 64 Heirophant ~ Grandmaster Jeweler

Blessed
My Stuff

[EZ_Filobeto]

Solo indoors = heal spell takes up my charm spot. It's doable, but I take a beatn...

I made my druid so that I could solo, which I still can't do effectively with my 60rog :">

And damn, can my druid solo

Chamo / kill almost dead pet, loot it, find new pet...

easy xp.

[EZ_Qalysta ShadowRavyn]

Aye the dr00d is my solitude when I need peace and quiet or my main needs farmed goods Qalysta ShadowRavyn
The Anti-dr00d

[EZ_Sollex]

So much for charming pets for good exp now a days..

Via the last patch. Krizlin Bsizzlin, 55 Dru
<Knights of Twilight>
Sollex Iceblood, 58 War(Semi-Retired)
|~TUNARE~|

[EZ_Lofun]

The power of a druid should never be underestimated and I sure wish people that bash druids would go out and make one themselves,you will have a new veiw of their awesome abilities and potention to save a group or raidforce.Yes we are not the best at charming or the best at healing or even the best at nuking.but at least we can do everyone one them efficiently,I have played many different characters high end and low end and can honestly say I dont know how I could go without my druid.
Have you hugged a tree today ?

[EZ_Palater Moondancer]

i am always busy on a raid, if you aren't your doing something wrong, in group i am way busy, i have to be puller or i go crazy, i can't stand just sitting around. then its dots, and spot heals with alittle melee mixed in hoping i proc so i dont get aggro. no matter how pimp a warrior is swarming/winged/immolation/epic can draw aggro..but damn its just so boring playing sit/nuke.


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[EZ_WolfanaDarkstar]

Qalysta ShadowRavyn... love the pic of Vadania I always thought she looked cool. I play a druid in EQ and DnD Wolfana Dei`Foreste
Leader, Darkstar Sisterhood

[EZ_Qalysta ShadowRavyn]

She looks very cool..now if only my druid could look so cool


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