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Man I have to say I'm starting to feel bad when I get ambushed because of missions. I guess I should stop going to Atlas park and places like that. Getting all the newbs killed sucks. Just a minor gripe on some of the missions in the game.
DarthEnder
05-24-04, 10:19 PM
Easy solution...kill your ambushers.
ShadowCross
05-25-04, 02:59 AM
Yeah, the only problems with high level ambushes in low level zones are:
1. The ambusher doesn't care about it and doesn't kill the villians
2. The ambusher doesn't realise the ambush because of the travel powers - he's gone before the mobs reach him (happened to me at least once)
Hey SX, you have a typo in your sig, should be Redeemed, not Redeemded. :)
ShadowCross
05-25-04, 03:21 AM
I have no idea what you are talking about :p
I can definately see how someone might ot even see the villains, particularly if they have Teleport.
Morvran
05-25-04, 06:55 AM
I've never been ambushed. About what level does that start to happen? Can you ambushed when you're very low on health?
Panamah
05-25-04, 08:17 AM
What are the ambushes? I wonder if this has happened to me. I came out of a low level mission last night and ran into 5th Column guys in Galaxy city, I don't recall seeing them in Galaxy city before.
Another time I saw an absolutely huge swarm of bad guys that were purple to me, can't remember where or which character. But again, it was another weird place for them.
What the hell is an ambush - and why do I feel like me asking that question means I've gotten countless newbies killed.
Some times you will accept a mission, head off toward it, and when you get to the zone, enemies will spawn, chase you down and attack you. Generally much higher level, and scaled to your group size as well. You don't know its an ambush until you get attacked.
ah... yeah - unless they fly, they're just spawning to kill noobs. R.I.P. Noobitses..
Sabatini Scratch
05-25-04, 08:48 AM
A few days ago, Clockwork Jack (who's bio reads that he's a malfunction escapee from the Clockwork King), was ambushed by a group of clockwork while standing in front of Ms. Liberty in Atlas Park. They directly went for him and none of the other few dozen people nearby.
The interesting part was he had no pending missions at the time, so I had the strangest suspicion a GM somewhere was having fun with me. Of course I used the incident to RP a little after. :)
I always figured those 5th in Gal City came from a rooftop somewhere.
My experience with ambushes is that they A) Scale to your group, B) are the same level as the person being ambushed (but may be same level lt or bosses), C) spawn roughly 30 seconds after you talk to an NPC, and D) will follow you as long as you are in the same zone.
I started getting them around level 16 on both toons. They consistently try and get to me ignoring others until such time as I kill them or zone. After zoning they seem to just stand around unless someone attacks them, in which case they go to agro mode and start attacking anyone as if they were normal mobs.
Anyone else see this behavior?
No, I've had some kill me when I was wondering by.
1st hit took off 99% of health, the second killed me, all before I could port. No idea what lvl they were or anything.
Axterix
05-25-04, 12:16 PM
I've never been ambushed. About what level does that start to happen? Can you ambushed when you're very low on health?
Can happen as low as level 2. The natural origin's early 5th column missions include quite a few ambushes.
Morvran
05-25-04, 12:19 PM
I've probably been ambushed then and didn't realize it.
crazy ant
06-09-04, 04:59 PM
So THAT's what it was... I was getting a clockwork mission... the one in which you get the EMP gauntlet, when out of nowhere a few clockworks came at me. I thought they were just in the area and I happened to wander too close. After I took 'em out, though, I couldn't find any clockworks anywhere near the area I got attacked in. Must've been a mini-ambush on lil' ol' me. ;)
Panamah
06-09-04, 05:38 PM
LOL! I've had this happen too and didn't even realize it was an ambush until I read this. God, I love this game.
Best one I had was night Sabatini and I are running around doing missions. I get a Tsoo door mission and he gets a Outcast one. So I'm sitting at the Skyway tram line when a ninja and sorcer hit squad comes running in (past the drones who usually zap any such ruffians) and starts beating on me. I got lucky enough for other folks to help out. So he and I are laughing about it and disembark in Steel Canyon to see one of his contacts and then do the tsoo mission. Soon as we get to his contact, a 8 man Outcast ambush party jumps him. Was a 2 for 1 night for sure.
Not sure if this is an ambush or not....but my Natural Scrapper was doing the 5th Legion Missions from E.L.I.T.E, around lvl 5 or 6. After completeing {insert heroic type goal here}, I'd leave the building, and get jumped instantly by 5th legions 2 or 3 lvls above the ones I just killed. Example: I was fighting 1 and 2 man groups of Nebel Rifle and UnterOffizer for the mission, as I left the building, 2 Flire Nebels and some other exceedingly nasty **** pop out of no where. Chased me all the way from King's Row zone area to Freedom Court. They don't stop either! I outdistanced them by aways, stopped to pick a fight, finished it, and the bastages came rolling up on me again!
Vilkata Tasavalt
06-09-04, 09:21 PM
I HATE ambushes. An ambush means one of three things for me.
1. I die.
2. I run like mad for the nearest zone.
3. I run like mad for the nearest police drones.
I'm a grav controller who's focused on holding things in place for as long as possible without allowing them to do anything in return. As a consequence, I do little to no damage. When I get hit by a bunch of mobs, I go down. Fast. I freaking hate ambushes.
Vilk
Clockworks ambushes are strange. The Oscillators move faster than everyone else, so if you get hit by 1 or two oscs, it gives you some warnign before the rest of the crowd gets there.
Morvran
06-10-04, 07:47 AM
I prefer Clockwork ambushes too...easier to see them coming, although the shock can be disorienting.
I had a group get ambushed by 3 green sky raiders when we left a mission one time. It was kinda funny from an RP standpoint. HAHA! We got you! *wiff wiff wiff wiff wiff wiff* *heroes look around at each other, shrug and fly off*
.........I thought it was funny, dammit!
Panamah
06-10-04, 11:36 AM
I HATE ambushes. An ambush means one of three things for me.
1. I die.
2. I run like mad for the nearest zone.
3. I run like mad for the nearest police drones.
I'm a grav controller who's focused on holding things in place for as long as possible without allowing them to do anything in return. As a consequence, I do little to no damage. When I get hit by a bunch of mobs, I go down. Fast. I freaking hate ambushes.
Vilk
I have a mind controller, and I don't find it THAT difficult to deal with ambushes. Unless I've engaged something else and get ambushed in the middle of a fight.
Vilkata Tasavalt
06-10-04, 11:47 AM
Then you obviously did something different than I did, because I do have trouble with them. My most damaging attack at level 23 is a whopping 25 points of damage I think. And that recharges very slowly. I've focused on my group-abilities and completely ignored my ability to kill things solo. Which was a decision I made, so I'm not complaining. I just don't handle ambushes well because there's a group of my-level mobs coming after me, which is impossible for me to kill since I just don't put out enough damage before I'm completely out of endurance.
vilk
Panamah
06-10-04, 02:39 PM
Then you obviously did something different than I did, because I do have trouble with them. My most damaging attack at level 23 is a whopping 25 points of damage I think. And that recharges very slowly. I've focused on my group-abilities and completely ignored my ability to kill things solo. Which was a decision I made, so I'm not complaining. I just don't handle ambushes well because there's a group of my-level mobs coming after me, which is impossible for me to kill since I just don't put out enough damage before I'm completely out of endurance.
vilk
Yeah, same here. Me killing is like watching paint-dry. Still, I do solo occassionally. :) It's dominate, levitate, dominate, levitate... over and over until dead. Either me or it.
My long lasting mez keeps the adds asleep until #1 is dead, then rinse and repeat.
I roled up a baby Illusion/Kinetics controller and at level 6 he does more damage than my level 16 mind controller. /jealous
DarthEnder
06-11-04, 11:01 AM
It's always the same missions you get ambushed as well, and usually when you talk to an NPC on the street(either your contact or the person your contact sent you to speak to).
While the size of the attack does scale to your group, when your solo its always seems to be 2 even con minions.
Also, stealth is no proof against them. Once they are on your tail, its not uncommon that I'm just standing around with stealth on and see a pair of clockworks come running down the street 5 minutes after I've accepted a mission(usually because they spawn somewhere in the middle of the zone and run towards you as fast as they can).
Also of note, so far, everytime I've gotten a kill mission where I was given a temporary power it has ALWAYS resulted in an ambush.
braincandy99
06-11-04, 12:58 PM
We were doing the synapse TF yesterday and just before the Boomtown bit with Bertha we were ambushed.... rather I was ambushed. We were a group of 8 so it was a whole slew of clockworks all level 20. This was in Steel Canyon.
The group kept porting me away when I was close to dying and then they all zoned into Boomtown without killing the ambushers. I stayed trying to lure them to the police drones at least. I was the only tanker so I could have put a severe halt to the mission. Hopefully they did get killed by the drones, though lvl 20s in Steel Canyon isn't too out of line.
Lemac Dushae
06-11-04, 01:26 PM
The Synapse TF also has the best ambush I've been in so far.. Babbage!
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