Shakey quest (Rogue epic part 2) walkthrough

[Knomercy]

Shakey quest complete and confirmed needed for Rogue epic 1.5, but Undead Renux fight is bugged.

Many thanks to Fyredragn for spending his time runnin round with me figuring this out, being half as lucky on spawns/drops ^_~

[In Rivervale]

You say, 'Hail, Shakey Scarecrow'
Shakey Scarecrow rustles and looks up at you in acknowledgment.
Reebo Leafsway shakes his head sadly. 'Poor old [Shakey] just isn't what he used to be.'

You say, 'Hail, Reebo Leafsway'
You say, 'who is Shakey?'
Reebo Leafsway says 'Shakey is our protector and friend. He is just getting old. Losing his [stuffing]. His [head] is getting very cracked and dry as well.'

You say, 'what about his Head?'
Reebo Leafsway says 'The head of a scarecrow is difficult to replace. We do not know what is needed and all of our attempts have failed. Perhaps you could [research] this for us and bring back a new head for our old friend Shakey?'

You say, 'what research?'
Reebo Leafsway says 'We have heard of a great forbidden tome penned by an evil necromancer that holds the secrets of instilling life into scarecrows. We have recovered pages from that book. That is how we know about Shakey's hay. But the pages detailing the creation of a scarecrow's head are missing. We believe that the Erudites possess at least some of the pages and might know where the rest of them may be found. Start your search in their city of Erudin.'

[In Erudin]

You say, 'Hail, Sornita Eltern'

Sornita Eltern says 'Greetings, Feninie! Please be do not speak too loudly while inside the library. If you need anything
special, feel free to ask me. I am a member of the Crimson Hands and my specialty is divination. In my research I have
stumbled across many [rare tomes].'

You say, 'what rare tomes'
Sornita Eltern says 'Why, just yesterday I stumbled upon what I believe to be an excerpt from Miragul's own treatise on the origin of the creatures known as scarecrows. Such a work is heresy and would be destroyed if the High Council knew of its existence so I have been tight-lipped about my discovery. If you would like to see it, I will show it to you, for a nominal donation of 20 gold pieces.'

[give her 20 gold]

Sornita Eltern says 'Oh, yes. Very good friend. Here is the document I mentioned. It would seem to be part of a larger
body of work, but this page describes a Teir'Dal who it seems was instrumental in creating the head of the very first scarecrow. You may keep that as it is merely a magical duplicate of the original document which I have carefully hidden.'
You gain experience!!

Receive [/url=lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=18030]torn parchment[/url]

[dark huntress spawns in the tower in Mistmore, light blue at 67. Kill her and loot Water-Stained Ancient Tome This links to ROGEP2BookSmear

Such that ... When combined with ... into ... transmute ... this place will ...foreboding. This is why ... locate ... essence
of ... Wisp are typically found ...in all my travels I was never able to find the ... debating ... since the first I laid
eyes upon ... spirits are usually not pleased ... trapped ... once i was able ... somewhat of a nuisance ... nevermore ... in time ... Harbingers of ... and far sight ... golem of hay ... following instructions ... claw of ... components may be ... I
suspect Miragul ... end this now ...
(most of the pages are smeared and illegible)

[give this water-stained tome to Sornita]

Sornita Eltern says 'Unbelievable, you located the larger body of work I had been searching for! The text is scribbled in
old Teir`Dal, but many of the words have been smeared and blurred. In fact, there are deep claw marks on the bindings and surface of the tome. It looks like the current owner didn't care well for it. Hmm. . . This translation of it may be
spotty, but I think I'll be able to convey the general meaning for you. Ah, here you are. A duplicate copy of the writings.
I'll hold on to the original as it won't be of much use to you. Many thanks, Feninie!'

[recieve Translated Ancient Tome ] this links to ROGEP2BookTranslate

The manufacturing of a hay golem is not so complex, save for the creation of the most important part: the head. The process requires a precise set of ingredients, such that any exclusion or imitation of a crucial item can lead to disastrous results.
When combined with care, the resulting head can simply be fitted into the frame of the hay golem with no need for spells or further transmutation.
For the husk, you must locate a fitting carved pumpkin. Such can often by found in Estates teeming with the undead. While this place will feel somewhat foreboding, there is no better place to harvest this item.
Next, seek out a supplemental shapely vegetation. The best bet is a dank and moist fungus filled region.
Thirdly on the list are stringy vines. The best vines I have found are located on the moon of Luclin in the mad mage's
domain. This is why stealth is of the utmost importance.
Next, there is a need for several fragments of the unliving: The claw of an ancient dragon, long dead. Tattooed skin peeled from a zombie - I imagine there are many bloated sailors that would not miss a scrap of their flesh.
Tears of those spirits that are long forgotten.
The final elements are the most important, and oddly enough, the most difficult to find. The basking glow of an orange flame, living essence of a dancing mote of light. These wisps are typicallly found in swamplands. Also, the boiling liquid from the Mistress' laboratory.
Lastly, the reanimation formula.
Unfortunately, in all my travels I was never able to find the source of this substance and all my attempts to duplicate it have been for naught. I have often debated whether the extra efforts required for this endeavor are worth my time. Since the first time I laid eyes upon a hay golem, I knew the knowledge of their creation would be mine ... someday.

[ Collect the following ]

Frightful Carved Pumpkin
: Unrest
: 384, -204, east end of hedge maze, small bag

Shapely Vegetation
: Fungus Grove
: -1698, -827, on top of first wall, little green leaf
(This spawns in multiple locations in the zone, i found one under the bridge to TS)

Stringy Vines
: Griegs End
: -56, 2901, near a stack of hay, small bag
( or -56 -2901?)

Ancient Dragon Claw
: Dragon Necropolis
: 926, 1022, under a mercenary excavator, small bag

Tattooed Zombie Skin
: Hate's Fury
: near Ralo the Black on a white sack, small bag

Unnatural Orange Flame
: Swamp of No Hope
: -1339, -1495, drops from a dancing flame, very weak

Vial of Boiling Acid
: Tower of Frozen Shadow
: 1127, -354, floor 6, on a little alchemy stand, small bag

Reanimation Formula -
:Miraguls LDON
:random from chests

Cage of Transmutation
: Chardok B
: ground spawn next to firepit leading to korucust
(I found this recently, but not guaranteed to be the combining tool. Has 9 slots, 9 ingredients in this quest, so seems to be the best bet so far)

Tears of the Forgotten ( You must have turned in the book to Sornita Eltern to do this step )
: Plane of Justice
: say "i remember" to "a forgotten spirit" and receive tears.

Speak in Elder Teir'dal for extra lore from Zadyr Moralin

[Mon Sep 27 19:34:35 2004] You say, 'Hail, Zadyr Moralin'
[Mon Sep 27 19:34:36 2004] Zadyr Moralin says, in Elder Teir'Dal, 'Hmm' He has an eager look upon his troubled face. 'By the Prince, have you come to [free] me from this place?'
[Mon Sep 27 19:34:38 2004] You say, 'free'
[Mon Sep 27 19:34:38 2004] Zadyr Moralin says, in Elder Teir'Dal, 'I must find a way out of this prison, my trial is approaching, so says the warden. Time is running out for me. There is little chance of reprieve, given my [experiments].'
[Mon Sep 27 19:34:41 2004] You say, 'experiments'
[Mon Sep 27 19:34:41 2004] Zadyr Moralin says, in Elder Teir'Dal, 'My people are fleeing, fleeing underground away from the traitor-elves. We are taking to the tunnels and to the caverns, where we can rebuild our strength, beneath the surface. The Prince will protect our people. My experiments were dire indeed, and yet in times of war one must take every opportunity one can get to defeat one's foe, as I am certain that you would agree. I experimented upon the souls of my [slaves].'
[Mon Sep 27 19:34:43 2004] You say, 'slaves'
[Mon Sep 27 19:34:43 2004] Zadyr Moralin says, in Elder Teir'Dal, 'My House always kept dwarves; they are sturdy, hard-working and durable. It has always been the law of our House never to abuse the slaves, however. The war with the traitors lasted so long, and I saw an opportunity to end it. My research into the binding of mortal souls, and to use that harnessed spiritual power for further incantations, had proceeded to the point at which I required actual living subjects upon which to perform my [rituals].'
[Mon Sep 27 19:34:47 2004] You say, 'rituals'
[Mon Sep 27 19:34:47 2004] Zadyr Moralin says, in Elder Teir'Dal, 'The ritual of binding requires over two whole days of preparation, and the separation and captivation of the subject's soul takes a further two days of rigourous effort. I succeeded, but the price was high. Upon three of my slaves did I perform the rituals, and thrice damned am I for it. I wielded the power of their lifes' energies with decisiveness. My [victories] were the stuff of legends.'
[Mon Sep 27 19:34:50 2004] You say, 'victories'
[Mon Sep 27 19:34:50 2004] Zadyr Moralin says, in Elder Teir'Dal, 'Against the traitor-elves, my new-found energies from the life-force of my three slaves' trapped souls provided me with the ability to lay waste to whole legions of our enemies. Yet in their foolishness, my peers of the Prince's Elves sought to stop me, and bring me to [justice].'
[Mon Sep 27 19:34:52 2004] You say, 'justice'
[Mon Sep 27 19:34:53 2004] Zadyr Moralin says, in Elder Teir'Dal, 'They took me in my sleep, and for my "crimes", I was banished here. Banished here like a criminal, rather than a savior of our species! Without my rituals, without my incantations, our people are doomed - they flee to the underworld and hide, like vermin. Even now, I sit here, accused, and were that not torment enough I am constantly reminded of my deeds by the souls of the three that I damned with me.'

Combine in Cage of Transmutation and receive Jack-O-Lantern
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=11139

After turning in head to shakey, your told to find the Blue Orb. Its broken up into fragments, and spread around. Theres three pieces total.

After retrieving the one from Kithicor, go to Yendar and ask "blue orb". You will get some new lore stating that there are multiple pieces, and they can be reforged under extreme heat. He also explains that the orb wants to be back together, and that you can find the remaining pieces by combining one of them in a forge with three blue diamonds.

Hemisphere of Blue Metal - http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=9464
: Find Kithicor and say "blue orb"

Shard of Blue Metal - http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=9822
: Plane of Mischeif
: Find the chessboard with two halflings, and say "blue orb" to either of them.

Bits of Blue Metal - http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=5767
: Bastion of Thunder
: Ground spawn next to Thunderclap

Fragment of Blue Metal - http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=8786
: Dulak's Harbor
: Pickpocketed from Siska the Spurned

Next find Findleznax Grimblewimbus in Steamfont. Tell him you will help him. He digs for a bit, and if previous steps are complete he will spawn "a decomposing body".

Hail the decomposing body you will get some lore, that its actually Renux back from the dead looking for Stanos. Simply answer "Yes" and Renux spawns in her place.

Hits for 1600s, unslowable, casts an AE that will DT you in 30 seconds unless cured (RGC Cures) AE is now CR based, -350 to resist, with 500CR you will resist a good 75% of them. Has a decent amount of hps.

Combine your 4 pieces of blue metal in with the heart you loot from Renux in a forge. You get the heart back.

[Mizarx]

Good info, most of it is shared on unsolved quest board (link on one of other epic threads here) , and tx for sharing info about possible container (thats an update).

About tear I hope the ones who know where it comes from to share info too, the more we can look around the faster we ALL progress on quest

[Keldoth]

Ok I have the book, and the ground spawns (didn't know about the container tho, I'll check that out.)

So far for the tear I have checked the hole for groundspawns (nothin)

Forgotten Slaves in the grey - only killed 15, but got no tears and decided to do something else.

Forgotten Martyr in KT, only killed one, didnt drop it.

Killed some MM Ldon missions - nothing there.

Anyone else trying stuff? The fact that it could be a rare drop makes it hard to search when you don't know where you are supposed to be looking in the first place.

[StabbityMcStab]

How about Paineel, i.e. Tormented Souls? Tormented souls also exist in PoTorment but that seems like a stretch. Still, since the quest now includes a drop from Luclin, it's not entirely out of the question. I'd look for ground spawn since most of the quest seems to be exactly that.

[Bladesake]

I'm working on some things on this quest, too. I'm not going to say anything just yet in case I'm wrong, but I will test things out tonight and see where it leads me.

I have some recoomendations for the post's author, though. Please add this link to the unsolved quest boards at the top of the first post.

http://p211.ezboard.com/foldunsolvedquestsineverquestfrm1.showMessageRange ?topicID=7.topic

Also, you've left out two crucial words in your post that gives the original clue for the powder of Reanimation (I don't feel that this is the right item, anyway). Edit the post to say that the quest-giver refers to "the reanimation formula" as an item that she has not been able to find. You left those words out, "Reanimation Formula," And I think that it is very important, because a formula is a concoction, or instructions on creating a concoction, not a powder

[Elfus]

For reanimation formula, maybe something as simple as a cleric spell

Reanimation spell (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=23480)

Easy enough to get the spell and check if you have all other parts

[Naldare]

I would say the powder of reanimation is not the correct item. If you look at the rest of the items, they all are have MAGIC/LORE/NODROP flags, where as the powder just has LORE/NODROP. There's also the little thing about the powder being an existing item and already being associated with a quest.

[Dazzler Twodirks]

This was stated in Rogehunt tonight.
Find the Soulbinder in East freeport say "What mangled head"
He sends you to the bards in North freeport " Soulbinder ( forget the name ) sent me about your friend.
The bard mentions someone who sucked out souls into gems.
Find the npc he mentions.

[Elfus]

I have tried handing in the "magically copied" page the erudin lady gave me for 20gps to Yendar, he does not want it. She says the page I have is only a copy and that she has hidden the original

Sornita Eltern says 'Oh, yes. Very good friend. Here is the document I mentioned. It would seem to be part of a larger
body of work, but this page describes a Teir'Dal who it seems was instrumental in creating the head of the very first scarecrow. You may keep that as it is merely a magical duplicate of the original document which I have carefully hidden.'
You gain experience!!


I have ran all around erudin and could not find where she hid it if there is actually anything hidden that we are meant to find.

I have tried pick pocketing her, but only 10 times, maybe 11 was the charm. I have not tried killing her. I have tried all the phrases given to us.

[Knomercy]

new info on tears location on the first post ~

[Knomercy]

This was stated in Rogehunt tonight.
Find the Soulbinder in East freeport say "What mangled head"
He sends you to the bards in North freeport " Soulbinder ( forget the name ) sent me about your friend.
The bard mentions someone who sucked out souls into gems.
Find the npc he mentions.

Do you got any more info on this? I followed up but the bard Caskin doesnt seem to be responding to anything.

EDIT*

nevermind this stuff, it tuned out to be a portion of the druid epic.

[Llyren]

I was able to get Caskin to respond by saying "Soulbinder Grunson sent me about your friend"

I didn't take much for notes, but he tells you a story about Geadin. who was one of the founders of the soulbinders and went a bit too far, even going so far as to suck out folks souls and bind them into gems

[Marah Blackthorne]

Seems this needed a thread of its own, i'll keep it up to date as more is found. (most taken from unsolved quests board)

[In Rivervale]


You say, 'Hail, Shakey Scarecrow'
Shakey Scarecrow rustles and looks up at you in acknowledgment.
Reebo Leafsway shakes his head sadly. 'Poor old [Shakey] just isn't what he used to be.'

You say, 'Hail, Reebo Leafsway'
You say, 'who is Shakey?'
Reebo Leafsway says 'Shakey is our protector and friend. He is just getting old. Losing his [stuffing]. His [head] is getting very cracked and dry as well.'

You say, 'what about his Head?'
Reebo Leafsway says 'The head of a scarecrow is difficult to replace. We do not know what is needed and all of our attempts have failed. Perhaps you could [research] this for us and bring back a new head for our old friend Shakey?'

You say, 'what research?'
Reebo Leafsway says 'We have heard of a great forbidden tome penned by an evil necromancer that holds the secrets of instilling life into scarecrows. We have recovered pages from that book. That is how we know about Shakey's hay. But the pages detailing the creation of a scarecrow's head are missing. We believe that the Erudites possess at least some of the pages and might know where the rest of them may be found. Start your search in their city of Erudin.'



This text hasn't changed since my first trip to Rivervale as far as I can tell...

Guys I really hate to say it but I'm pretty sure this is a red herring. I have a feeling this is one of the many unsolved quests in Norrath and while it is surprisingly long I don't think it has anything to do with our epic regardless of what that datamine said.

I'm not saying abandon this quest because after all the work you guys have put into it I'm curious to see the end result...Just don't hold your breath...

EDIT:

Looking further into this I found Shakey the Scarecrow's Head (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=60) Notice the dates on some of the posts pre-exist OoW. /shrug

[Kinamur]

[Tue Sep 28 01:40:04 2004] Logging to 'eqlog.txt' is now *ON*.
[Tue Sep 28 01:40:09 2004] You say, 'what mangled head'
[Tue Sep 28 01:40:10 2004] Soulbinder Grunson says 'We Soulbinders do not deal in such foul magic, we purged that [one] from our ranks long ago.'
[Tue Sep 28 01:40:13 2004] You say, 'what one'
[Tue Sep 28 01:40:14 2004] Soulbinder Grunson says 'I will not talk about him and I assure you that none of our membership will. If you must know more, talk to a man named Caskin about his friend. I don't remember his last name. Now please go away and don't mention this again.'
[Tue Sep 28 01:45:57 2004] You say, 'soulbinder grunson sent me about your friend'
[Tue Sep 28 01:45:58 2004] Caskin Marsheart says 'You must mean Geadin.' Caskin's eyes lose their focus for a moment as he appears to be reminiscing. 'Geadin was a good friend of mine, but I haven't seen him in ten years, not since his [problems] with the Soulbinders.'
[Tue Sep 28 01:46:11 2004] You say, 'what problems'
[Tue Sep 28 01:46:12 2004] Caskin Marsheart says 'Caskin was a great man. Yes, I know he went down the wrong path eventually, but he saved a lot of people. He helped form the Soulbinders and, ironically enough, helped to write the rules that they now live by. Unfortunately he wasn't strong enough to live by those rules. His was a drive for success, for achievement, and that was his undoing. His [research] became more important to him than anything, even more important than the people he was trying to help.'
[Tue Sep 28 01:46:36 2004] You say, 'what research'
[Tue Sep 28 01:46:37 2004] Caskin Marsheart says 'Geadin Gyths was, in many ways, a pioneer of soul binding. His research helped to allow the Soulbinders to operate, but he went too far. He was expelled from the Soulbinders for using some of those that came to him for a simple binding as experiment victims, sometimes pulling their souls from their bodies (on accident, he claims) and binding them to a series of gems that he kept on hand. The order of Soulbinders managed to recover those gems and the lost souls and removed Geadin from their ranks. Something that happened at that time, perhaps even something that the Soulbinders did to him, drove him [mad].'
[Tue Sep 28 01:47:16 2004] You say, 'how mad'
[Tue Sep 28 01:47:18 2004] Caskin Marsheart says 'He ran off and I haven't heard from him in more than ten years. So you can see why the Soulbinders don't want to talk about him. There's nothing to fear from them, they have one of the most grueling screening processes I've ever heard of. I guess Geadin helped them in that way too. I don't know why you seek Geadin or his type of magic, you don't seem like the sort that would be interested in that sort of thing. I will warn you about my friend Geadin. He is very smart and very insane. If you can help him, I'd be grateful, but keep in mind that he doesn't see people as anything more than a tool. Good luck finding him.'

[Knomercy]

mangled head is part of druid epic, lets not worry about this anymore.

[Tinyshanker]

Found another Shapely Vegetation spawn after nearly 3 hours of searching...was sitting right in front of the door to the bank. It looks like only one veggie can be up at a time. I wonder if it even has real set spawn points. So far 4 have now been reported, so this could just be a random spawn anywhere in the zone. All I have to say is searching for a green leaf on the ground of Fungus Grove really sucks.


Edit: One more thing. I was reading the translated text again. Straight from the text "When combined with care, the resulting head can simply be fitted into the frame of the hay golem with no need for spells or further transmutation" The mention of transmutation makes me 100% positive that the Chardok B container is what we need for the combine.

[Fignutn]

I'm thinking after we combine the head, we hand it to Yendar because its a so called artifact and then to Lirprin!

[Tabbran]

Too bad the friggin Dark Huntress isn't spawning any more

EDIT: And the vegetation is friggin retarded. Been searching off and on for a few days now, and nada.

[Kraun]

Add another loc for the Shapely Vegetation, found mine in the Shik'nar caves at +1110, +1538. I think Tinyshanker is right and that there are no set spawns. My only advice would be to keep checking around every plant you see. They're slightly larger than the yew leaves in WL.

[Mizarx]

For tears ...

http://p211.ezboard.com/foldunsolvedquestsineverquestfrm1.showMessageRange ?topicID=7.topic&start=101&stop=110

... tx Kagerosz, nice info

I have all bard kills but not book, getting the 'No reason to be here' emote, could need book only or both for talk spirit ...

[ofour]

shapely vegetation loc pos 2056 , pos 2001 (under bridge) , thx

[DMac]

Ok, over the course of two nights I have spent at least 12-15 hours sitting in a small room, in a tower, killing green dark elves and green vampires. I have not seen the Dark Cun ... err ... Huntress spawn yet. First of, this better drop everytime or I will be very upset. Second off, this is not fun. Fun is the opposite of this. I do not mind camps for the most part, in fact I would rather solo a camp for a few hours than kill something that takes one group 5 minutes, because I can do it on my leisure. I also like quests which take time to complete (providing the reward at the end is sufficent to justify the time spent). Now, here is my thought quadruple spawns, quadruple drop rates, and make four times the camps needed. Same effect, same time spent, the difference? a scenary change. That little bit can go along way, IMO. Anyhow, /rant off

I wanted to point out one thing, in spite of the datamine tags, I have my doubts on this being a part of the epic. I still wish to complete it, cause it's Shakey. There was no clue pointing us to this (unless we missed the clue and stumbled here by mistake, dumb luck) ... But more importanly, if this was epic related, wouldn't it at least follow suit of the epic in that we'd be the only class who could do the quest? Just my 2cp. I am just hoping for a decent reward from this quest, a clicky something (like the summon drink clicky from the stuffing quest), or a clicky pumkin illusion would be cool, even it was all/all (it's not about being the only one able to do it, it's all about being able to do it)

[Kraun]

We're pretty certain that the Dark Huntress spawn is currently bugged. She seems to have been missing on Quellious since the last patch. The only connection we originally had between Shakey's head and our Epic was tenuous at best, with the quest items having the same naming convention, but they do seem to be dealing with trapping souls and what not now, and its all we have to go on right now until we catch another break.

[LordOfChains]

Confirming Kraun's post, I've been camping dark huntress for the past day and a half with no luck.

Others in the zone before I arrived said they hadn't seen her all day.

P.S. also having some difficulty finding the freakin' ground spawn items we need.

[Mizarx]

Is Shakey part of rogue epic ? ... what do we know ?

- Books are identified internally as if belonging to Rogue epic 1.5/2.0
- Theres not a know straight link on lore from epic to Shakey
- Theres an at least coincidental link on lore regarding nature of trapping souls on items
- Talking with Zadyr Moralin and having all bards, forge fire and tradeskills done is not enough to get forgotten spirits to talk you

Things worth to try or someone to confirm/deny ...

- Check if having book alone (not bards) is enough to talk to spirits (almost sure it is, if so we loose a good chance to be sure Shkey is part of epic)
- People with complete set missing only 'reanimation formula' try with rezz spells and necro rezz emerald

Edit: And yes, Huntress is a very odd spawn or she is bugged upon hours spent friends and me camping tower on Maelin ... why this reminds me so much that time when that orc spawn for coldain ring at EW was bugged so he only poped once at server up

[Bond]

Confirming Kraun's post, I've been camping dark huntress for the past day and a half with no luck.

Others in the zone before I arrived said they hadn't seen her all day.

P.S. also having some difficulty finding the freakin' ground spawn items we need.

She also hasn't been seen on Prexus since oow came out.

[Kloaced]

I've gotten a nodrop liquid in MM LDoN's, its has the tradeskill tag too. I dont recall the name at the moment, but i've also never had it ID'd, I'll look at it later on.

[Alturick]

I have the reanimation formula in the bank.


Its not in Lucy, because I dont run Itemcollector, nor do I compusively link things. I am at work at the moment... so I can't link it to roguehunt, but will do so as soon as I get home (and its driving me nuts that I can't do it right now).

The full name of the item I have in the bank is:
Mirigul's Reanimation Formula (spelling may be off... and thats as close to the name of the item as I can get from memory right now).

I've had it in the bank since just before OOW came out... originally it was tagged as "Class: Rogue", and I had never seen it before, so I snagged it just in case.

I will do my best to finish off the Shakey quest this afternoon/evening to verify that this indeed the proper item.

Wont be able to post anymore until I get home this afternoon (~4:30pm est)

[Inygo]

where did it drop? ldon?

[Fignutn]

Yeah the Dark Huntress is currently bugged like the Warrior epic pages were. Now to me, This really pieces me off. We were told time and time again by Prathun, that this quest wasn't bugged. And Behold, Look what we find. I have been working on this quest since i got level 70 and now i am being cockblocked because of this stupid spawn. I know for a fact it won't be fixed for a week.

[Myloka]

Got my book from the Dark Huntress two days ago, was up when I zoned in.

[Tinyshanker]

I got my tears last night from PoJ. I have the 5 tradeskills done, and do not have bards or Culthor, so it looks like the only thing needed for the tears is the book turn in.

[Solesk]

We were told time and time again by Prathun, that this quest wasn't bugged
we dont even know for sure this is part of the rogue epic. maybe prathun is right. and the rogue epic isnt bugged :P.

[Fignutn]

Why would it say RogueSmearep2 on Lucy, I trust lucy more than anything just cuz its accurate. Prathun fully re-designed the Shakey quest so whatever change he made to it has to have made an impact.

[Kayla]

aye look at the dates on the books on lucy, 9-16 and 9-23. pretty recent

[Gage Kitheri]

If this does somehow tie into our 1.5 epic then it will be the lamest quest ever. Also how the hell would we have discovered this without Lucy's help? Sure they can say they expected us to use Lucy but then all they had to do was give it a tag that doesn't say rogue epic2. Seriously where is the frickin logic here?

With that said, Dark Huntress doesn't seem to be spawning on Vazaelle either. :banghead

[Raqquel]

As some of you may know, stromm had a short rollback last night. When I logged back in I heard all the talking about this "Dark Huntress" I grabbed a gate potion and ran the hell over to the mistmoore tower, and she was up, greeny vampire with an even greener pet. So, I've heard her spawn can either be 5 real life days/100 eq days (so I'm told), and apparently shes up on server up from what I can tell.

[Yakita]

Heard this quest was for an Illusion:Scarecrow item, at least that was the general consensus in the rogue-chat I hang out in. No clue if that makes it related/un-related to the Epic 1.5/2.0, though. ;)

[santino]

looks like we will find out soon if this has anything to do with 1.5.

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=11139

Pre-grats Knomercy..

[Migg]

spill the beans!!!


Migg Ette
FV Warden

[Bonshee]

This is for epic 1.5

And knomercy wasn't first done.

Talisman's Striph has been ahead of all servers thus far -- he has tried the bugged final encounter 3 times.

Tonight he hopes to complete it.

Nevertheless, nice work on the write-up Knomercy, and thanks for all your information.

[Rumli]

one of the items is labelled brd/rog only (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=52355) plus there is an illusion screwcrow spell that went live on sept 14 (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=6107&source=Live).

so... brd/rog illusion scarecrow clicky would be cool.


I can dream at least right?

[Bladesake]

Thanks for updating the post so nicely, gnomercy. Looks like some good works been done, unfortunatly, though none of the things I tried last night were right. But it looks like someone's figured it out, anyway if Santino's post means what I think it does. :applaud to you folks

[tinaea]

o.0

Hah.

[Striph]

All the credit should go to Gylan and Tinaea of Eternal Retribution, don't give me credit for anything. Early grats to Gylan on first epic if all goes well.

[RKK667]

Question for those who have talked to Shakey, is there any hint as to how we were supposed to figure him out without the lucy database info? :( Sure the quest may be working but we just got lucky it seems

[Knomercy]

who cares about first, i just want to get it over with and get some sleep ~

[Ealienae]

I picked up the Tome from the Dark Huntress on Saturday Morning on Prexus.

Corka Roo!
Fastest Gnome in the Woods

[Elfus]

I hope her looooooong respawn is a bug and not intended. This is gonna be like Stormfeather camp all over again and I just will not do a camp like that. People are gonna get so uhgly camping huntress if she respawns like this.

[Knomercy]

fixed first post, still had wrong formula on it.

[Tabbran]

Finally got the FG piece, was in the water. Really can spawn anywhere ><

[Akaze]

my screenshots got a little cut off but heres the jest to work on...

You remove the dilapidated pumpkin from shakey's wooden neck post and replace it with the new one. A haunting voice rings in your ears, 'Who has given me a voice again?' I can sense your presence but cannot see your form. Allow me but a moment to explain. I have been trapped in this golem of hay for many years. Ever since the horrible bloodbath in the forest i have been boundt to this horrible fate, and cannoy find rest until the person responsible for my murder has been dealth with! Our fates are intwined, you and I. We can both find peace if you listen to what i have yo say. Find the blue Orb. if yet retains its dark power. Go into the woods

[Akaze]

arg prepos figures,... the rest inc.

...go into the woods and seek out the one with a fragment.

go from here to kithicor, speak to an npc Named KITHICOR, ask about the orb and he gives you the hemisphere...

i have text for that too, but Kithicor will not talk to you without the shakey stuff before this being done...people know more than me but i can only say up to the hemisphere i am not sure where the other peices come from.

Kithicor's response (i cut top sentance off again :/)

I received this from a charred spot of earth shortly after the fateful battle between the armies led by the child of hate and Tunare's chose. This abhorrent thing radiates evil and is an affront to nature. I must be rid of it, now. Take it! Please find a way to properly dispose of the hemisphere , (name). While you do not necessarily strike me as the trustworthy type, you do appear capable. I can only pray you make the correct choice.

[Akaze]

mass spelling error's are my fault

[Keldoth]

http://home.cinci.rr.com/mjmusic/images/shakey.jpg

http://home.cinci.rr.com/mjmusic/images/kith.jpg

full text

[Akaze]

aha thank you sir :)

[Fignutn]

The Miragul's Reanimated Formula only drops in Hard Adventures btw or Normal Adventures for LEVEL 70's. I took 50 normal losses today and then did one hard and got the piece.

[Siins]

Rogue chest or caster chests?

[Keldoth]

either - had 2 in a row drop from wis caster chests, and another from a rogue chest.

[rillaith]

Hmm, BRD/ROG? Let's see... Epic 1.0 had an alternate ending after you'd done everything (including some parts that have to be done by a rogue, even though a bard can get the final item by MQ along the way) which resulted in an illusion mask for bards and rogues. There's absoltuely nothing to indicate that the same couldn't be the case here - which makes the shakey quest npcs responding to non-rogues understandable. Although I'm not sure I fancy doing this one a second time over!

[Solanar]

Just because I'm feeling ignorant - how can you tell what kind of chest it is? I've heard people refer to rogue chests and such before, but mainly because my groups refuse to let me near chests I don't have much experience with them.



Sola

[Stixum]

Just because I'm feeling ignorant - how can you tell what kind of chest it is? I've heard people refer to rogue chests and such before, but mainly because my groups refuse to let me near chests I don't have much experience with them.



Sola
/inspect it.

If it's a caster chest it will be surrounded by glowing runes, if it's a rogue chest it will be a lock or a something that you will be able to pick.

[Azza]

Just because I'm feeling ignorant - how can you tell what kind of chest it is? I've heard people refer to rogue chests and such before, but mainly because my groups refuse to let me near chests I don't have much experience with them.

When you Inspect a chest you will have a message that it is held shut by a granite lock (the most common i think) then its a Rogue chest, if its covered in runes or blood or some such its a caster chest.
Take a look in other forums about LDoN chests for more info on the subject.

[Balandrus]

I think this post should be stickied, btw. Since it's an important part of the epic~

Tabbran sux :(

[tindariel]

Tried 3 EF instances, first one 1 rogue chest and 2 caster chest, 2nd 1 rogue chest and 1 caster chest, last one no chest at all. Thanks for a well designed quest, at least we should have a sure drop chest if we are flagged to have the quest from Shakey. What am I supposed to do ? Ask guildmates to take loss after loss so I can check chests in ldon or waste more of their time to complete the adventure. If someone got a reanimation formula, please say which adventure it was, maybe drop in 1 specific instance.

[Fignutn]

Make sure you are HARDS , I did 50 lvl 65 Normals with no Formula.

[Aerini]

well your guildmates dont have to accept the losses...

i made it this ways....


i got an lev 70 hard adv and after that the other group members disbanded the adv , i still could zone to the adv, i took the losses and the rest of the group did not get any losses.

[Pottz]

This zone either just crashed or was repopped on my server. When it came back up seconds later, it came with the Dark Huntress.

-Pottz

[Siins]

either - had 2 in a row drop from wis caster chests, and another from a rogue chest.
Man... As if its not already bad enough that SOE made ANY chests unopenable by rogues, but now they have the balls to hide pieces of what might be our epics quest in these rogue unopenable chests too?

So here I am, a level 70 rogue who is maxed out in his lock picking skills, maxed out in his sense trap skills, and to complete my epic, I might need to ask a FRIGGIN CASTER TO COME OPEN CHESTS FOR ME?????????

Why is there not a major uproar going on here?

[Stixum]

either - had 2 in a row drop from wis caster chests, and another from a rogue chest.
Man... As if its not already bad enough that SOE made ANY chests unopenable by rogues, but now they have the balls to hide pieces of what might be our epics quest in these rogue unopenable chests too?

So here I am, a level 70 rogue who is maxed out in his lock picking skills, maxed out in his sense trap skills, and to complete my epic, I might need to ask a FRIGGIN CASTER TO COME OPEN CHESTS FOR ME?????????

Why is there not a major uproar going on here?
There has been a somewhat silent uproar since the day Sony announced casters would be able to sense traps and unlock chests when LDoN came out.

[Riot Sio Zon]

There has been a somewhat silent uproar since the day Sony announced casters would be able to sense traps and unlock chests when LDoN came out.
Not so bad that they can open them...but that we can't. Still think we should be able to open 100%, but if no rogue then you got a 66% shot if you have an int and wis caster with the spells.

[Knomercy]

There could be some code in place as to how/when the item drops. I got a bot shammy, and a rogue buddy (thx Fyredragn~) to start an EF Ldon, went in and got it from the first chest.

I started the xpd, chose normal risk (which is high risk at 66+, cuz mobs were hitting for 900+). We checked another chest and it wasnt there...

I started the ldon btw, so that could be a factor..

[Keldoth]

The zone I got mine in a HARD adventure in the zone - Miragul's Menagerie: The Silent Gallery.

There were 3 chests total. All 3 contained a +7 cha augment and Miragul's Reanimation Formula.

[tindariel]

I don't know if there is a pattern but made another attempt, group was 2 rogues + 1 wizard; instance was The Morbid Laboratory and we got 2 Reanimation Formula.

Mitnick

[Snowshade]

the FG piece is an utter pain. 4 hours searching and nada...

[Liiono Shadowclaww]

thats cause whenever i see you in FG, i run by and snag it sshade :)

Liiono

[Knomercy]

Ok here comes the next parts, will update first post when I go through my logs (at work right now)

After turning in head to shakey, your told to find the Blue Orb. Its broken up into fragments, and spread around. Theres three pieces total.

After retrieving the one from Kithicor, go to Yendar and ask "blue orb". You will get some new lore stating that there are multiple pieces, and they can be reforged under extreme heat. He also explains that the orb wants to be back together, and that you can find the remaining pieces by combining one of them in a forge with three blue diamonds.

Hemisphere of Blue Metal - http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=9464
: Find Kithicor and say "blue orb"

Shard of Blue Metal - http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=9822
: Plane of Mischeif
: Find the chessboard with two halflings, and say "blue orb" to either of them.

Bits of Blue Metal - http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=5767
: Bastion of Thunder
: Ground spawn next to Thunderclap

Fragment of Blue Metal - http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=8786
: Dulak's Harbor
: Pickpocketed from Siska the Spurned

[Louiee]

Siska is found in Dulak's Harbor, not Gunthak

[Keldoth]

more text

http://home.cinci.rr.com/mjmusic/images/yendar.jpg

http://home.cinci.rr.com/mjmusic/images/bluemetal.jpg

blue diamond x3 + any metal

[Inaaki]

Can you get the fragments from Kithicor and PoM before you have given the new head to Shakey, i.e. out of order?

I tried and i couldnt, but that could very well be a server problem (i`m on Kael).

[Keldoth]

you cannot until shakey is done

[Biggwin]

So has this been finished? It looks like all 4 pieces were found?

[Inygo]

I have the 4 parts... need to find binding element

[Pappillon]

dam sos seeing mob up in pom on my sever ;/

heres a link to a map btw if anyone has a better one share it pls
http://www.planeofmischief.com/maps.htm

[Talzar]

Can anybody give a little insight on the Swamp part? Been at it about five hours over the past two days and no luck. Watched the /loc given and AE'd a few hundred mobs and it didn't spawn.

[Bond]

dam sos seeing mob up in pom on my sever ;/

heres a link to a map btw if anyone has a better one share it pls
http://www.planeofmischief.com/maps.htm

Um, you can zone into PoM from GD. There's a tiny castle at the end of the river. Click it!

[Kalenori Nightblade]

The swamp drops off a yellow wisp looking mob that spawns at the top of the Frog city, was about a 30 min or more respawn time that I encountered.

[Northerner]

I presume he means there are see-SoS Mobs up *in* PoM (as can certainly happen).

[Larcendro]

Picture of the Vegie on the ground...
http://www.drakkonsblood.net/Entrance/albums/ScreenShots/Vegie.jpg

[Tabbran]

Has anyone found the binding agent yet? Or is there not one (I haven't killed the all the bards yet)?

And for that matter, anyone know what to do with Shakey's old head?

[Naldare]

Just confirming that the Dark Huntress' spawn is definately fixed. I camped her for 8+ hours before it was fixed today. She's now spawning about every 2 hours like clockwork.

[Silvorn]

Can anybody give a little insight on the Swamp part? Been at it about five hours over the past two days and no luck. Watched the /loc given and AE'd a few hundred mobs and it didn't spawn.

Look up. It's on the platform in the frog city not on the ground level.

[Striff]

Anyone confirm the book from Huntress is still not nodrop?

[jaelte]

I nixed the huntress and got the book today, it's as droppable as can be.

[Keylah]

Seems someone has solved the puzzle of the Blue metal.
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=9599

Now if we can just figure out where the binding agent drops...im assuming its http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=20909 but have no way of knowing since im not that far into the quest.

Anyways just throwing the links out.

Key

[Fyredragn]

renux dead but...

http://img81.exs.cx/img81/8472/epic.jpg

[Siins]

So we go to Steamfont Mountains to take on the new Renux. We had a single group, consisting of a warrior Cleric, Shaman, and 3 rogues. All in Qvic gear, except one rogue in VT/EP gear, and the shaman in Time gear.

[Thu Sep 30 02:26:00 2004] Renux Herkanor shudders, causing bits of mud to drip from her rotting face. Her voice wheezes out like a rotting accordian. 'BOoOOo. I Am SURe you Did not exPEcT to see ME here . . . faTe DEMANDS a REmaTCh . . . YOU cONtinUe to TaUNt me. WHaT can HE poSsiBLy offEr that mAkes you BeHAve like a LAPdoG? FoR the LAST TIME . . . wiLL you tell me wHERe to find StANoS?'
[Thu Sep 30 02:26:20 2004] Expendable says, 'yes'
[Thu Sep 30 02:26:21 2004] Renux Herkanor rejoices, flames of anger dancing in her remaining eye. 'Hur hur . . . eXcELLent. STAnos shall meET his end, and SOON. You, hoWEVer, will not LIVe anoTHeR day. Can'T have you wARnINg him, Now cAN I?'

And the fight begins.

Thu Sep 30 02:35:38 2004] You have slain Renux Herkanor!
[Thu Sep 30 02:35:38 2004] You gain party experience!!
[Thu Sep 30 02:35:38 2004] Renux Herkanor's corpse groans, 'Urk. Tell FatHeR I coNTinUE to wAIT for HIM in Hell. . .'

[Thu Sep 30 02:35:52 2004] Azerel tells the group, 'Rusty Dagger, Trochilic's Skean, Festering Heart of Rage'

You combine the 4 blue metals with her heart in a forge

[Thu Sep 30 02:41:01 2004] Expendable has fashioned Pulsating Blue Metal Sphere.
[Thu Sep 30 02:41:01 2004] Expendable has fashioned Festering Heart of Rage.

Posting what Expendable repeated from his emotes here...

[Thu Sep 30 02:41:33 2004] Expendable tells the group, 'The many pieces of the metal orb fuse together under the intense heat of the forge'
[Thu Sep 30 02:41:47 2004] Expendable tells the group, 'As the orb absorbs the flames, it pulsates, beating like a living heart'
[Thu Sep 30 02:42:02 2004] Expendable tells the group, 'The air around you becomes thick with tension and the world semm to bend inward in an unnatural way'
[Thu Sep 30 02:42:08 2004] Expendable tells the group, 'A voice whispers in your ear'
[Thu Sep 30 02:42:11 2004] Expendable tells the group, 'Hhehehehheh!'
[Thu Sep 30 02:42:21 2004] Expendable tells the group, 'You turn your head to find a small but sinister looking imp perched on your shoulder'
[Thu Sep 30 02:42:30 2004] Expendable tells the group, 'The master would like the return of his belonging'
[Thu Sep 30 02:42:34 2004] Expendable tells the group, 'You know not what you toy with'
[Thu Sep 30 02:42:41 2004] Expendable tells the group, 'The imp leaves his perch and flaps away'
[Thu Sep 30 02:42:50 2004] Expendable tells the group, 'laughing maniacally as you lose sight of him'

We tried turning in to Shakey, Pazin, Stanos, Kithicor, Yendar, Smith Dandi, checked Inny in PoHate (was still KoS), Maestro (also KoS), spawned Inny in Nadox (also KoS), zoned into Temple of SolRo, Befallen, and Najena. We also looked for Laarthik in Kithicor, but he was not up even though it was nighttime both times we checked.

We finally gave up when Prathun said in serverwide.roguehunt that we would not be able to complete the epic tonight due to some bugs.

[Dazzler Twodirks]

I think i know where you have to go.
Inside the Oasis Spectre tower is a zone up at the top of the ladder.
Step into the flames see what happens.

[Cattiliriel]

just step into the flames ? didnt work when i was there with dimse :/

[Chakua]

Camped out in the tower last night and the Huntress wasn't up. Woke up, logged in and cleared the room. Camped out and came back 20 or so minutes later and instantly got attacked by the Huntress and her cronies. Looted the book and got a Chestplate of the Dark Flame from some dude. Wonder what the trib value is. :)

[Stixum]

renux dead but...

http://img81.exs.cx/img81/8472/epic.jpg
Hahaha, quest isn't bugged eh?

[Siins]

Fight is bugged *IF* anyone dies. Fight works fine if nobody dies.

Fix is on test already, but needs to be pushed to live servers.

Apparently, they coded in a new ability. NPC's can now cast a spell on you, which when it wears off, casts a second spell on you. Renux (in zombie form) casts Clockwork Doom on everyone on her hatelist (zonewide). It has a 30 second duration. If you still have that on you when it expires, it casts a 32k DT. The problem is (as Prathun explained it) is that the code goes through a section that deals with DoTs. You die from the DT the first time it goes through the code. When it comes back to you again, since you are already dead, the code blows up, and the zone crashes. And thats what needs to be fixed.

So we won because nobody died.

[Sugi]

This might be what to do with the orb. Stumbled across him while in Oasis of Marr.

A Wayward Kiraikuei

You say, 'Hail, a wayward kiraikuei'

a wayward kiraikuei says 'I will scour this desert until the one with the orb arrives. Leave me to my wandering, weakling!'

[ShadowCross]

Okay, call me ignorant, call me dumb - but how are we supposed to know that Renux was the one that killed Shakey?

[Siins]

I havent seen anything that said Renux had anything to do with Shakey... maybe I missed something somewhere...

[Biggwin]

it looked like you loot her heart and the is the substance to bind the orb back together with.... just speculation!

[Eleena Transient]

Word of warning, the FG piece can spawn under the world. Someone with 'special' track ability confirmed it at location -1233, -492, -32762. Made for a very unhappy rogue.

[Trypt]

Siins, have you compeleted the shakey portion of the question? I ask because last night I attmepted to spawn renux and the gravedigger turns up nothing. So an invisable flag must cause him to find her corpse. I have everything done thats known for the epic....what'd you do that I may not have to gain a flag?

[Siins]

The new gnome in Steamfont will not respond to you until you complete the Shakey quest. I have not reached that point. However, Expendable has, and spawned Renux.

[Siins]

Something new... Expendable and I proved Prathun to be right this morning. We triggered an 36 man dynamic zone called Innoruks Fury. However there was no zone in. So if you get your orb, dont do the turn in. The mob ate the orb.

Hopefully Prathun will let us know when this has been fixed on live servers.

I expect that this is the final battle for our epic 1.5.

[Liiono Shadowclaww]

ah so there is something harder than the lvl 72 1600 quadding, aoe DT dotting mob we have to kill?

excellent!

(hope you got/get your orb back)

[CaudyrShadowfury]

A 6 group raid for our ****ing final fight?! SCREW THAT - they said that it was going to be nothing more than 2-3 group encounters! That **** is false advertising and ridiculous - I'm sorry, but it's stupid - I hope to all hell that is for epic 2.0 or something. . . :banghead :angry

>.<

[Siins]

After reading what Prathun was saying last night, I can guarantee you this is for epic 1.5.

[Bonshee]

Just because it's a 36 man zone, doesn't mean you need 36 people to kill it.

This is supposed to be geared towards Time level guilds.

So i'm assuming, Elemental Plane guilds will need full 36 to finish the mob, Qvic+ guilds will need 18 people to finish the job.

[DikomeRZ]

Does Radiant Cure or Remove Greater Curse remove Clockwork Doom?

[Tegdain]

You remove the dilapidated pumpkin from Shakey's wooden neck post and replace it with the new one. A haunting voice rings in your ears, 'Who has given me a voice once again? I can sense your presence but cannot see your form. Allow me but a moment to explain. I have been trapped in this golem of hay for many years. Ever since the horrible bloodbath in the forest I have been bound to this horrible fate, and I cannot find rest until the person responsible for my murder has been dealt with! Our fates are intertwined, you and I. We can both find peace if you listen to what I have to say. Find the blue orb. It yet retains its dark power. Go into the woods and seek out the one with a fragment.'
You have communed with the tormented spirit trapped inside Shakey.

I don't know who was responsible for his murder unless he means the Child of Hate Kithicor speaks about. I don't think renux was involved in this, just that her heart had the essence required to meld the blue metal fragments together. Just seems like shakey's quest is not complete till he is at rest.

As for the Renux fight, you have to cure 50 poison counters in 30 seconds. Not really that hard to do with a shaman who knows what spells to cast. Lets not judge what the final encounter is like till people can get in the instance :p

[Siins]

Does Radiant Cure or Remove Greater Curse remove Clockwork Doom?
Even if RC3 does, it has a 3 min reuse. Renux casts Clockwork Doom about every 45 seconds. It takes 3 casts of Blood of Nadox (shaman only) to cure that.

Ever since the horrible bloodbath in the forest I have been bound to this horrible fate, and I cannot find rest until the person responsible for my murder has been dealt with!
When you get the Pulsating Blue Orb, the emotes tell you that "The Master" wants his property back.

The one being that caused the mass chaos in Kithicor during the battle was Innoruk, after Laarthik called him down.

The best we could come up with was that "The Master" was Innoruk. And when we triggered the 36 man dynamic zone this morning, it was named "Innoruks Fury".

So I have to believe at this point that we are going to be fighting Innoruk in an epic battle.

[skewerzjoo]

This is supposed to be geared towards Time level guilds

Actually...no...they said before release that 1.5 was geared for the "casual" and "pre-elemental" rogues, and wouldn't need a raid force to get the finished 1.5. If I remember right, 2-3 groups was to be the most required...

I'm in a guild where the best tank has about 9500hp raid buffed...all pre-elemental. Finding it hard to believe, from the description, that a 9.5 warrior is going to be able to tank the new Renux...let alone a new Inny.

The rest of the epic does seem to be doable for a pre-elemental rogue. Tradeskills (sucky, but doable), bard fights (at least 2 groups)...all doable. Level 72, 1600hp quadding 32k death machine....I can tell you for a fact our WHOLE guild would have problems with that...and if this raid zone is harder then that...

If I was in time, I wouldn't need the dang 1.5...i'd have a JTB/DoD.

[Liiono Shadowclaww]

This is supposed to be geared towards Time level guilds.

I could have sworn when OOW came out, I read that the 1.5 epic would be something the lower tier guilds and lower profile players could achieve (without calling in their Time friends)

I can see needing to be Time+ for the 2.0 epic, but really, what is the point in having a whole new quest for a time equivalent drop if the only people that can do them are, already getting time drops?

[Tegdain]

Without turning this thread into something about how well it's tuned for causual players. It is still an unsloved quest, did causual players get through sewer trials/mountain pass trials in GoD 2-3 weeks after it was released? I see many pre-time even pre-elemental people who are in KT now. With the elemental quality attunable drops in oow, I bet pre-elemental/casual players will be completing this quest without setting foot in time.

[Inygo]

How did you start the 36 man raid? hand the orb to somone?

[Bond]

If I was in time, I wouldn't need the dang 1.5...i'd have a JTB/DoD.\

If you planned on doing epic 2.0, you would.

[Louiee]

If I was in time, I wouldn't need the dang 1.5...i'd have a JTB/DoD.

I've been in time for a year now, and I don't have a JTB, and DoD sucks. :p

[skewerzjoo]

hmmm..not sure....key word was "need". Casual rogues NEED a dps upgrade, to get past bazaar equipped necros, beastlords, magicians, etc...

I hate to hijack, but it seems that the high end rogue is getting more and more alienated from what a casual rogue is. People saying "oh, we did that Renux with one group" or "we did Culthor with one group" Either of those fights would be a full blown raid for my guild. "Oh, I can solo the harversters easily"...and then look at the magelo, and have 9khp unbuffed, with rss/jtb combo.

It was stated that 1.5 would be attainable by the casual rogue, and it wouldn't need a raid force to do it...sadly, it appears that once again we were lied to.

/hijack off

[Migg]

I've been in time for a year now, and I don't have a JTB, and DoD sucks. :p

Sucks compared to what??

I understand how rare the JTB is, I feel for ya but you still have access to alot more than some of us do, no big deal I hope to complete this 1.5 even though I do not have a guild and am not even Sol ro flagged/ completed all of the sewer trials still. I personally use Gargoyle Talon Main and Rage off hand.

Anywho, I just cant wait to see the stats on ours. Good luck to whoever is ready for Innys fury.

Migg Ette
FV Warden

[Talzar]

It's a time level weapon. I have read a lot about these epics and I haven't seen anybody from Sony say anything about numbers needed other than it can be done by people below Time which it can be. There is a difference between needing to raid and needing to be in a raiding guild.

[skewerzjoo]

btw..just wanted to add that everyone is doing a WONDERFUL job working on this quest...very good job, indeed...

[Liiono Shadowclaww]

aye. I appreciate all the effort by rogues everywhere, the mods/admins of SH, and the GMs/Prathun for working so hard on this quest, so that others, like myself may benefit.

thank you

Liiono Shadowclaww

[NichweeVS]

I tried tio start this quest but I am DE, and I keep getting attacked before I can talk to Reebo.
Anyone know what faction I need to get up to let me do this, and how I can raise it?

(Btw I was sneaking behind Reebo, but he turned when I spoke and aggroed)

[Atops]

Get the faction neck item on

[Haites Nocturnal]

Use the handshake my son....

[Tabbran]

That won't help him with the druids.

Illusion as an erudite or something :P

[NichweeVS]

Ta for the suggestions.

btw.

1. I had the pendent on, but Reebo is not of the Rogue faction.
2. I tried to use the 'Rogue Handshake' but Reebo kept turning round to talk to me and aggroing. Plus the area he stands in makes it hard to keep in the rear arc of all the Halflings.
3. Will try the illusion when I get on next.

BTW I found the Halfling Druid Faction is Storm Reapers (although this is not mentioned on many of their Alla info pages) which can be upped in RunnyEye, so all else fails I guess I farm greens for facion (Hell, I did it for the GMAS, I can do it, if necessary, for the Epic :p)

[Sylvaron]

Illusions do not help much with faction either (well maybe Halfling Illusion) .. but the ones I have only bring me up to apprehensive and he still won't talk to me.. so yeah.. time to raise faction (even though I thought we weren't gonna need to do that for the Epic?)


Sylvaron Zen'Drir

[Gnad Marr]

I could get the halfling to talk to me if I was sneaking behind him, hide off. Everytime i said something, he would turn to me, so I would sneak around behind again him to say the next part.

[NichweeVS]

That's fine if you no KoS. If you are he turns and attacks. I could get thru the quest one line per ESCAPE but it probably quicker to farm the fatction :p

[Migg]

Actually illusions work wonders, I know for a fact (or it USED to be this way) I used to play an ogre warrior.. But I was able to go ANYWHERE in FV as a wolf. Have a druid Wolf Form you and you can talk to the druids there.


Hope this helps.


Migg Ette
FV Warden

[Okage Tadaka]

[quote="Migg"]Actually illusions work wonders, I know for a fact (or it USED to be this way) I used to play an ogre warrior.. But I was able to go ANYWHERE in FV as a wolf. Have a druid Wolf Form you and you can talk to the druids there.


Actually you can't quite go anywhere in FV with wolf form because if the dog Dusty sees you in the tunnel that goes under the water he will attack you along with all the guards in there. I found out the hard way with my druid.

[Miq]

I was able to chat w/ Reebo as a DE by hiding/sneaking , standing behind him,un hide ( stay sneaked ), say a line . RE-HIDE, go to the back of him again , un hide , say the next line , RE-HIDE , go to the back of him again, un hide , say the next line.... etc . It's like Pick pocket, Hide between each line . I was also able to just chat w/ Reebo in Halfling illusion ( enc cast ), it made me indiffrent.

[NichweeVS]

Ta again. I'll get an illusion. Either Halfling or Worf or somesuch next time I'm on. If it gets me to nonKoS I can Handshake my way thru the quest :)

[llolin]

This is supposed to be geared towards Time level guilds

Actually...no...they said before release that 1.5 was geared for the "casual" and "pre-elemental" rogues, and wouldn't need a raid force to get the finished 1.5. If I remember right, 2-3 groups was to be the most required...

I'm in a guild where the best tank has about 9500hp raid buffed...all pre-elemental. Finding it hard to believe, from the description, that a 9.5 warrior is going to be able to tank the new Renux...let alone a new Inny.

The rest of the epic does seem to be doable for a pre-elemental rogue. Tradeskills (sucky, but doable), bard fights (at least 2 groups)...all doable. Level 72, 1600hp quadding 32k death machine....I can tell you for a fact our WHOLE guild would have problems with that...and if this raid zone is harder then that...

If I was in time, I wouldn't need the dang 1.5...i'd have a JTB/DoD.

the epic 1.5 is probably going to be time, but think about how good epic 2.0 will be then. and to get epic 2.0 u have to finish 1.5 in the long run the new epic 2.0 will probably be amazing and a weapon that will stick with you for quite a while. besides you dont think they would let us off that easy after how easy the epic 1.0 was now would you. :)

[Bond]

2.0 will be high end aimed. It will likely only be attainable by high end GoD-like guilds from my understanding.

[Migg]

sorry meant RV not FV.. rivervale wolf form works there.. sorry for the typo!!!



Migg Ette
FV Warden

[Zair]

I just picked up the Cage of Transmutation at loc -375, +190. It's actually in Korucust's big room, just to the left of the fire, just as you enter the door. It's a large bag, since it's a container, rather hard to miss.

Fromt he ZI, take the first right, go up the steps into the building there, and continue south... you'll need to jog left and then back right, but the big room (if you have the map) straight south is the place.

I saw no see-SoS mobs there, but there are a ton of mobs so that may up the chances, donno. Good luck!!

[ShadowCross]

You don't have to talk to Reebo.

He wouldn't talk to me either, I could do all the Shakey part anyhow - I am currently ready to trigger Renux and I have all 4 parts of the orb.

Used the handshake to turn in the head to Shakey - never talked to Reebo.

[DarthEnderX]

Well, if you really want to make it easy on yourself.

Make a hotkey that is

/do hide
/say whatever the line you need to say is
/do hide

Hit the button, and you'll be rehidden before the server even realizes you were visible in the first place.

This works great for the LDoN chests too.

/unhide
/inspect
/hide

Wait 10 seconds, then hit the next key

/unhide
/detect traps
/hide

Wait 10 more, etc. Make keys for disarm trap, pick lock, open and loot.

I have all 6 of those keys set up as a bank on like my 3rd social panel.

[Zael]

[Fri Oct 01 03:09:23 2004] a wayward kiraikuei says 'Yes! You have the orb! Allow me to bring Innoruuk's hateful gaze to this world again. Let me call to him!'

hand in:

[Fri Oct 01 03:09:36 2004] The sky crackles with electricity as ominous russet clouds gather overhead, forming a churning funnel above the tower. A feeling of pure hatred washes over you.
[Fri Oct 01 03:09:36 2004] You gain experience!!

Starts expedition Innoruuk's Realm. 36 man limit. Can't zone in, so that's the exact spot that it's totally broken, instead of just partially.

Eats orb on handin, but you keep heart on combine so it's not a huge deal.

[Trestle]

I took a Screenshot of the FG spawn before looting it and this is the post as asked for by many in the channel. Feel free to edit it and put it in the main post.


http://www.unityeq.org/albums/signature/shapleyveg.jpg

Trestle

[Dazzler Twodirks]

From reading about the new zone my hunch seems right that zoneline IS in the game.
It's up at the top of the oasis spec tower.

[Snowshade]

After retrieving the one from Kithicor, go to Yendar and ask "blue orb". You will get some new lore stating that there are multiple pieces, and they can be reforged under extreme heat. He also explains that the orb wants to be back together, and that you can find the remaining pieces by combining one of them in a forge with three blue diamonds.

I am a bit confused about this here. Am I supposed to gather all 4 pieces, or am I supposed to get piece from Kith, combine in forge with 3 BD anmd then get others? or, do I combine each piece with 3 BD?

Thanks for any clarification.

-Snowy

[Pokenm]

Looks like its fixed now...

[Fri Oct 01 04:31:03 2004] veeshan.Prathun tells serverwide.roguehunt:1, 'Oasis and Steamfont coming down on all live servers. =)'
[Fri Oct 01 04:31:10 2004] veeshan.Samila tells serverwide.roguehunt:1, 'good thing'
[Fri Oct 01 04:31:12 2004] ayonae.Weedwaker tells serverwide.roguehunt:1, 'Epic mobs!'
[Fri Oct 01 04:31:13 2004] veeshan.Prathun tells serverwide.roguehunt:1, 'aye'
[Fri Oct 01 04:32:14 2004] veeshan.Prathun tells serverwide.roguehunt:1, 'yep, no more zone crashes after they update Steamfont'

[Bond]

Sexy, sexy! Perfect timing, too. We're doing a run of epic mobs tonight,

[DarthEnderX]

I hope they also fixed the spawn on that damn leaf.

[Tegdain]

[Sat Oct 02 04:09:57 2004] veeshan.Prathun tells serverwide.roguehunt:6, 'Grats everyone - glad to see the epic was completed this morning.'
[Sat Oct 02 04:10:46 2004] veeshan.Prathun tells serverwide.roguehunt:6, 'there's more puzzles in the rogue epic 1.5 that most of the other classes, put together. Says a lot about the rogue community that you were able to figure it out. =)'
[Sat Oct 02 04:11:15 2004] veeshan.Prathun tells serverwide.roguehunt:6, 'Xenaida put in the spawn points for the shapely vegetation - I asked her to look into it.'
[Sat Oct 02 04:12:21 2004] veeshan.Prathun tells serverwide.roguehunt:6, 'Fix to the Renux fight is a temporary band-aid until our next real patch.'
[Sat Oct 02 04:12:47 2004] veeshan.Prathun tells serverwide.roguehunt:6, 'Culthor is an instant spawn so long as you have the doomfire pieces :)'

[Suzuka]

Renux has too much hp I think. we wiped 3 times on her because clerics run out of mana before we killed her and we had around 30 people... half of them time flagged.

She needs her hp reduced by 50% or so because atm she is anything but Casual as SoE put it.

[Siins]

It appears that the epic fights for most of the classes include at least one or two tough fights. Mages have some sick fights in particular. We have one thats kind of tough (renux) and we have one that might be a bit tough (Lanys) for lower end guilds. But they are doable.

Infact, while we did kill Renux on Lanys with 6 people, the rogue that we first killed her for was a rogue that as far as I know, has never been guilded. For whatever reason, he refuses to join a guild. He is highly skilled and almost any guild on the server would take him if he ever chose to join one. Anyways, he has a mixture of VT and EP gear. Thats it. And he found a way to get her dead. And after the fight, and this was with her DT in (which it isnt atm), even he said that he could have killed her with 2 EP geared groups.

Now that again, comes from a rogue that has never been guilded. He has lots of friends, and he can ask for their help. But he does so pretty much only when he knows that he can win. He researches everything. He knows more about where to find EQ lore and information than anyone I know. So when he says he can get her dead with 2 EP geared groups, I believe him. And we even talked about the composition of those groups, and it made sense.

Go into this fight knowing that she is Magic and apparently fire immune, or very close to being immune. Know that she hits for 1600 quads. Know that she has roughly 500k HP. And come Oct 13, she will again have the DT feature. If you only have EP geared people, you need your best geared tank. You need at least 2, and maybe as many as 4 clerics. You need RGC people for what she is currently casting, but on Oct 13, and after that, you will need a Blood of Nadox shaman for each and every group. If your shaman do not have Blood of Nadox, they MUST go do the quest. It generally takes a couple of hours, but it is a requirement when she has her DT thing. You will also need your best DPS people. And for this fight, that probably means rogues and monks. Casters simply wont be able to maintain DPS for 9 minutes non-stop, not to even mention the fact that she is highly resistant to spells. We were talking about using 7 rogues and monks for the DPS when we discussed this.

So in the end, Expendable and I came up with this for well geared EP guilds:

Group 1: WAR CLE SHAM DPS DPS DPS
Group 2: CLE SHAM DPS DPS DPS DPS

DPS is again, assumed to be EP geared (and weaponed) rogues and monks. Even with this, this will be a tough fight for EP guilds. Not impossible, but everyone will need to be on their best game. It may well be that one of the DPS slots in group 2 might instead need to be a third cleric. Or you might add a third group, and go that way. You know your people better than I ever will. So make the adjustments you need. But it is a doable fight.

Guilds that recently entered the Elemental Planes, and those not yet there, will need more of the above. More clerics, more DPS, and more shaman to cover each group. This will be an EPIC fight for these guilds, and it should be treated as such. This may well be the toughest mob they have ever faced. But she is killable by these guilds.

[Suzuka]

Well her DT worked just fine today. I dont know what healers were doing but must have been something wrong since they ran out of mana before she died.

edit - sig

[Ryndar]

Her AE was changed

it's now 500 per tick damage

and 50 mana per tick.

RGC removes it.

[Knomercy]

resist is CR based, and resistable a good 75% of the time with 500+ CR, so grab a bard and druid

[marcus600]

there are probleme with findlezax grimbleswinbus ??

been there for 3 hours today and still no up



3 guild killed it yesterday in 5 H (before the update zone i guess)


wtf is this upgrade ??

spawn ****ed ?

[Ryndar]

24 hour spawn timer on win/fail now.

[marcus600]

it s UBA Lame damn

so ok epic in 5 month
it s camped 100 of the time

[Siins]

Damn... 24 hour respawn does suck. I thought these things were supposed to be 2 hour respawns?

On a good note, FG was patched overnight. I assume most of you will know what that means. :)

[felinity]

Tell me.

I searched FG for hours after the patch. Nada.

[Yarg]

I got mine about 30 mins ago on Fennin. Spawned under the fern, next to
the single lotus between town and bandits (Loc is 20, 200).

[Keldoth]

Ok she uses that AE - but even if you resist it you still have to cure or you get DT'd. I'm not sure the fight is harder or easier, but you need a boatload of cure power if you have more than 2 groups. Most of the other 2 or 3 group encounters to not require so many cleric/paladin/shaman/druids while this one requires quite a few, so don't go light.

[QuentisLocksmythe]

finding a moving needle in a haystack is ridiculous.

[Siins]

Ok she uses that AE - but even if you resist it you still have to cure or you get DT'd.
A) DT has been temporarily disabled due to a bug, which is why she has a new spell.
B) Once the DT is back in, if you resist the spell, there cant be a DT on you. The DT is triggered by the spell wearing off.

[Keldoth]

She uses cloud and Cazic Touch now - if you have cloud icon after 30 sec, she Cazic Touches you. I still got icon even when I resisted, so I assume I would have gotten DT'd. I am not positive.

[mkondr@yahoo.com]

All I can say is - DAMN soe. FG has got to be the WORST possible implementation ever. 5+ hours and counting now - NOTHING. Rogue who did find it before me said it was on the Roof! of a building to which there was no way to get to besides getting a levitation. NICE.

[Tattle]

24 hour respawn on win or fail is uber stupid. Grats blown spawns to cockblock

[Wydow]

The Blue shard piece that spawns next to Thunderclap. . . does it appear on the ground as a small bag or is it harder to see than that? I could not find anything up on the platform with him tonight.

[Keldoth]

its a bag, and its not on the platform its in the back corner of the little nook behind the platform where he stands.

[Wyntyrsfool]

Ya go go cockblocking =( Happening on Quellious. Can we get a change on this spawn, like you need to turn in your frags or something. Or perhaps adjust the spawn timer?





Regards

Wyntyrsfool

[Wydow]

Thank you Keldoth. Found it.

[Siins]

The little green spot (Yew Leaf graphic) that they use for various things like this is one of the stupidest things in all of EQ. Its roughly a 20x30x1 thick pixel graphic that is mostly greenish colored. And they almost always use it in zones where the ground color is mostly greenish as well. So its TOUGH to spot WHEN YOU KNOW WHERE IT IS, and damned near impossible to find when you dont. Especially when they really put the corkscrews to ya, and only put one at a time in all of a zone the size of FG.

This problem has been around since Velious, when it really did represent finding a yew leaf in Wakening Lands. Since then, its been used for various things.

The problem however is that using EQ and ONLY EQ makes this next to impossible to find. And if you are colorblind, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND! The graphic needs to be redone. You need to be able to see it. It needs to be something dramatically more than a 1 pixel thick greenish colored square.

I cant even count the number of people that have told me over the years that this one graphic has been the one thing that was responsable for them beginning to use $howEQ. Each and every one of those players were people that played for years using no third party tools. And I am certain that is NOT what the devs intended. So they are only screwing the playerbase by continuing to ignore this problem and continuing to use this graphic as it is now.

The graphic should be visible by using nothing but the game. I am positive that the artists at SOE could come with a small shrub graphic or something similar that can be seen by us. Hell, in a worst case scenario, just make it a stupid brown bag.

[Sigpaos~]

Precisely,

If the devs can make a piece of paper look like a bag for the enchanters, there is no reason this FG spawn should be any different. I can understand making the vague clues and references in our quest, but once we figure out where we need to look, dont make us look for something for days as many rogues have been doing. The enchanter epic 1.5 even has another spawn in MM near the Huntress that uses a small mushroom graphic. That same graphic could easily be used for the Shapely Vegitation.

I've found mine and have moved on, but spending a day and a half looking for it was not fun

[Cynni]

I just killed the Dark Huntress at 11:21 pm PST 10-2 on Emarr. Don't know if that helps anyone but she is spawning.

I only spent about an hour in there, after about 2 spawn cycles I got bored and cleared the whole castle and when I got back she spawned after the next clear.

[Bonshee]

Failed renux again today.

She does DT you still.

It isn't just a simply DoT. It's a DoT and a DT after 30 seconds.

GRC and RC3 take care of it.

The AE is no longer just hate list. It was casted on my GRC who were solely casting GRC and not fighting Renux herself.

[Akaze]

casting a spell on an agro'd person puts you on the hate list

[Dommin_Tunare]

Well after reading thru this post and spending the entire night looking in FG for a leaf i think i am just going to give up on the thing that i was most excited about doing in teh OoW expansion. That leaf graphic, the limited nature of the drop (1 at a time/hour), the messed up loc's, and the size of the zone has me convinced that i will never see it.

It is hilarious tho that someone mentioned that this item is the reason why people use ShowEQ... cuz i was thinking about getting it tonight just for this damn piece of the quest... yeah... Way to mess things up again SoE...

And i liked you guys!

[trixxar]

The quest has obviosuly been completed by several people, but the writeup for this part is still incomplete..

What is the deal the instanced zone?

Have the people who completed this just not given any information?

For those trying to get the ldon piece, dont know if everyone is having this problem but my group couldnt request a ldon until we got a lvl 65 in grp to make the request, all of the other were 66+ and were being told we needed more people even though we had more than 3.

[Ronne]

Hax wins the FG spawn, which is sad, the difference between hours of searing, or minutes of running to it

[Sneakyshiff]

i have all the pieces you need to collect, except the Reanimation formula. It's only from EF missions apparently, but does it have to be high risk mission? How rare is it from the chests? Is it droppable? And are the LDoN missions for 66 plus still bugged? I heard they were too difficult on high risk setting, or something to that effect. Thanks in advance.

[Platt]

Another FG spawn at 400, 210.

[marcus600]

can somone tell me or explain me the final battle ? i m going to do this in some hours

what word i have to say to the npc at end for spawn innoruk or so ?

what the final npc does ? hit ? hp ? ae ??


thx a lot :)

[Suzuka]

Another FG spawn at 400, 210.

The Spawn is totally random.

[Aramill]

after you combine the orb and renux heart is that the end? what to be done to finish 1.5

[Pokenm]

The spawn isnt totally random Prathun said in channel that there are 10 spawn points and only 1 is up at a time. We just need to get a listing of the 10 spawn points and maybe a list of what to add to the FG map and we can all find them fast and easy without using some 3rd party software. Ive been trying to collect them but no idea how to add that info to the map seems the number in there are backwards and upside down or they dont show up right in game. Any help there?

[Ravn the Moor]

I will say that if you don't mind dealing with the load lag, It does cast a small shadow. Somewhat helped me to find it. I tried everything for 4 days trying to find it including playing with gamma.

[Eleena Transient]

A point is recorded in the map file as:

P -Y, -X, Z, R, G, B, S, Label_Name

P = the letter P (tells the map this line is a point)
X, Y, Z = the coord given in game by /loc, note that X andY are inverted and negative.
R, G, B = color of the label in Red, Green, Blue
S = size: 1, 2, or 3
Label_Name = the text displayed using _ for spaces

[Pokenm]

Ok so if the location is +550.0000 , 0.0000 , -300.0000 then in the map it would display as

-0.0000 , -550.0000 , +300.0000 right?

EDIT: Ok took the locations that I have reversed turned around :P
didnt have the Z for them all so the ones I didnt have I just put -300 on there dont think itll matter if the height filter is off anyway. Let me know if this looks wrong to anyone so I can correct.

P 492.0000, 1233.0000, -300.0000, 255, 255, 255, 3 Leaf
P -1320,-2204, -300.0000, 255, 255, 255, 3 Leaf
P -1384.0000,-2286.0000 , -304.0000, 255, 255, 255, 3 Leaf
P 897.0000, 1698.0000 , -300.0000, 255, 255, 255, 3 Leaf
P -2001.0000, -2056.0000, -300.0000, 255, 255, 255, 3 Leaf
P -1538.0000, -1110.0000, -300.0000, 255, 255, 255, 3 Leaf
P -958.0000, -1376.0000, -300.0000, 255, 255, 255, 3 Leaf
P 613.0000, 1125.0000, -300.0000, 255, 255, 255, 3 Leaf
P -0.0000,-550.0000, -300.0000, 255, 255, 255, 3 Leaf

Should be able to paste that section into FG map and have it mark the known locations less they changed when they fixed it :/

[Suzuka]

If I have everything up to renux done except Culthor the Gate keeper. Will it prevent me from spawning Renux?

[Whysperwynd]

^^^^

I think the answer is no =)
To the best of my knowledge; you only need Shakey finished to spawn Renux.

[dugannw]

Vial of Boiling Acid
: Tower of Frozen Shadow
: 1127, -354, floor 6, on a little alchemy stand, small bag

Been ages since Ive been there, still need a key from each level to get to the top?

[Pokenm]

Vial of Boiling Acid
: Tower of Frozen Shadow
: 1127, -354, floor 6, on a little alchemy stand, small bag

Been ages since Ive been there, still need a key from each level to get to the top?

Yes you do :( took me 3 or 4 hrs to get to the right lvl.

[Migg]

In reguards to ToFS, if you are on FV the keys will TLC you. I was 66 when I went there luckily I had my wife with me, she is a 54 druid, so we raided till like the 4 or 5th floor then just grouped.

Hope this will save some people some heartache.

[Siins]

Keys for Tower of Frozen Shadow go on your keyring... Once you use them anyways.

[Rodric1]

Is it confirmed that the EF LDoN item only drops in HARD dungeons? or is it random between both normal and hard LDoN's? Does it make a difference if its a box or actual chest? Thanks.

[Siins]

yes. However, there is no hard LDoN for 66+, so its in easy adventures for those levels.

[Ayrie]

I have found some littles errors in quest and some implements :

1. When u go to speak with the druid ( Reebo ), if u are a dark elf, he don't wont speak with u. U can use a HAlfling Essence. Some people find directly and some rogue surch during 2 days ;-).

2. For the "Vial of Borling Acid" In tower of frozen Shadow. It's not in 6 th florr but in 5 th floor.


Fo r the reste i have a big problem, don't found the Shapely Vegetation. If u have some loc for help me... Writte here ;-)

[Tavadar]

Actually the info on boiling acid is correct, it is the 6th floor with all the spectres and dogs. :) 5th floor is the wedding scene.

[Catweazel]

I am not sure whether anyone will find this interesting or not:

snuck through 12 hard ldons (2 or 3 rogues, boxed cleric waiting outside).
2 dungeons had no chests/barrels/tables
10 dungeons had caster chests, including 6 which had only caster chests, sometimes with as many as four chests per dungeon.
4 dungeons had rogue openable chests, 2 of those contained augments.

A total of 25 chests, 5 rogue, 3 formula.

The reanimation formula might well have been inside the caster chests, however having a caster type with you is probably zero advantage as 23 of the chests had at least one mob on it. As it was, inspecting and rehiding only works about 50% of the time (lag / chance I assume).

This was certainly a rush equivalent to the Book of Souls

[Siins]

I went into the EF dungeon solo this morning. I found one chest in the entire dungeon. Fortunately, it was a rogue openable chest, and it had the formula in it. The sad part is that nearly every step you need to take to get it open and to loot causes sneak and hide to break, BUT YOUR SNEAK AND HIDE KEYS STAY DOWN! This has got to be a bug!

I finally got it, but I died twice in the process due to the keys staying down, but sneak hide dropping. If the keys would have depopped when sneak and hide dropped, I wouldnt have ever gotten aggro. I wasnt sure what was going to drop them, so I had my fingers on the buttons to reset them. But when they dont pop, the way you find out you arent hidden is that the mobs aggro.

I cant wait to move to a game where the programmers can code **** right.

[Meraia]

You waited for hide/sneak to refresh between each steps? takes like 5-6 sec

[Siins]

I was waiting over 30 seconds between steps.

[illogos]

It's similar to the invis bug, yes your sneak/hide keys will stay pressed down, but mobs will aggro you.

However, all of the actions will NOT break sneak by itself. So, all you need to do is make sure the mobs have their backs facing you. Then drop hide and go to work.

Also, if they do not have their backs towards you, you can still do it, but you must drop hide prior to any action. The trick is to drop hide, perform action, re-hide. If you do this fast enough you should not aggro anything.

[Siins]

The room my frozen table was in had 3 mobs. 2 facing directly at the table, and one looking about 45 degrees off to the side. It was impossible to get behind any of the mobs, and work the table. Best I could do was to slide in behind the table, trying to get as far away from the 2 mobs facing it, and a tiny bit further behind the one not directly facing it. The room wasnt very big, and all 3 mobs would aggro at the same time. So I had little choice but to do my best with what the keys were telling me, which turns out to be badly bugged.

Maybe if I had scrolled the camera back and looked at my name or something. But if they can remove the parathesis from my name, why cant they also depop the damned hotkeys. Its the stupid things like this that drive one crazy in EQ.

[Catweazel]

Also, if they do not have their backs towards you, you can still do it, but you must drop hide prior to any action. The trick is to drop hide, perform action, re-hide. If you do this fast enough you should not aggro anything.

This is great in theory. After doing 12 dungeons and some 20+ chests yesterday this works only half the time or less in practice. Firstly, the chance of a mob seeing you when you drop hide and it is facing you is based on some server-client logic, and in practice is basically random. Secondly, more than 90% of the chests had mobs watching them.

Our best chance of success was based on the double click hide suggested earlier. while hidden, and with the mouse over the hide button, type /inspect hit enter, click hide twice as quick as you can. Sense/disarm does not break hide. Open (use the same method as inspect) and loot (did not check whether you can hide while in the loot position) both break hide.

Note for all of these inspect is the one that is truly broken (i.e. the hide button stays depressed but you are no longer hidden, no message, no nothing). Because of the lack of testing on openable chests I cannot verify if "open" is broken or working as intended.

[StabbityMcStab]

10 dungeons had caster chests, including 6 which had only caster chests, sometimes with as many as four chests per dungeon

Try them anyway... I got my formula from a chest that had "glowing runes". My first attempt to disarm it failed, second attempt succeeded and I was able to pick the "runes" and poen the chest.

I also found that /inspect broke sneak/hide without popping the buttons, just like bard invis does. Used the same trick to deal with it.

Helpful hint: disable no-drop looting confirmation prior to going after your formula. If you aggro something when you /loot, you may not have time to actually loot the thing when you find it if you have to click a bunch of boxes. Just don't forget to reenable it when you're done... Looting nodrops accidentally can get a person in a whole lot of trouble :)

[illogos]

If it is a chest you know you can pick/open, you can always use Nimble to give yourself enough time to open it up. Then you can try to run/zone or escape. Then you can loot it and hope it has the item.

Forgot to mention, but, if you set off traps while you are in the dungeon...it will bug you such that you cannot loot the chest without zoning or escaping.

[Gobbwin_Batosai]

The easiest way that I have found to do this is just to get a gru and start knocking out hard EF LDoNs until you get it. Yea you might not be using all of your rogue skills, but it saves one hell of a lot of heartache. I did this 3 times, 1 for me, 2 were for friends, we got a drop in every dungeon. Maby we were just lucky, but I drug someone along who could open the caster chests all 3 times. The group would fight through, with us rogues scouting all possable directions in search of the chests to focus our fighting path. I concur that most all of the chests we found were surrounded by mobs and several times I died, but it was much easier to continue on with the search, as the group could work their way to you (other rogues just drug me back), rezed then kept goin. None of us were EP, nor VT and yet we had a fairly easy time clearing the dungeons. Though its not easy to get peeps to do LDoNs anymore, i've found that more people are willing to do them if they are hard missions.

[Siins]

If it is a chest you know you can pick/open, you can always use Nimble to give yourself enough time to open it up. Then you can try to run/zone or escape. Then you can loot it and hope it has the item.
LDoN chestts refuse to let you loot if you have aggro. So this does not work.

You can right click to loot (or type /loot) and quickly reset sneak and hide. But, as posted previously, it works in practice about 50% of the time at its best. I actually succeded at doing this after I had already died twice. Infact, I had told the cleric I had incoming that there would be 3 corpses by the time I was done. I was pretty shocked when it actually worked.

All of this is enother perfect example of the clumsey sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt interface that EQ has. I have given up on it ever being fixed in EQ. But someone out there, maybe WoW, maybe VotH, someone is going to get it right, and I am going to leave EQ behind like a stinking sack of rotting potatoes.

[illogos]

Last I checked you can still sense, disarm, pick lock, and open a chest even with aggro. I did not say to loot it while nimble. You, after using open, would have to escape or zone and then come back to loot. Given that when you clear your target, or target yourself, you can go into sneak/hide without evading, it is quit possible to run to zone with run4(maybe run3?)

I would like to see them change the aggro from setting off traps though. Does not seem to matter if a mob aggro's you, just so long as you are hit by a trap you will be bugged. I did not test to see if you will be able to loot after enough time sitting idle, but I do know that zoning(and not setting the trap off again) or escaping will fix it.

[Dove]

Get a mage friend to go with you. Have them CoH you every time you aggro mobs. This will save a lot of deaths or a lot of time waiting on escape to refresh.

[Seffan Strisciare]

I had a body pop out of the dungeon and had my friends cle outside, I would cast rex on myself and then if i aggroed just click yes, worked beautifully

[Twyll]

Ok just pure speculation, do you need to finish the shakey quest for 1.5?? or do you just need the translated tomb? Sorry if it was asked already

[Siins]

You cannot spawn Renux until Shakey is done.

[illogos]

You cannot use the trigger phrase to get the blue orb items from kithicor nor the halflings in PoM if you do not complete the entire Shakey quest.

[Edonil]

YaY, I finally get to contribute something to this community...

1) Yes, Shakey's head is part of the Rogue Epic 1.5... think I saw several people say that...

2) Yes, there is a Scarecrow Illusion Mask for Rog/Brds...

Once you give Shakey his new head.. and you are told about the Blue Orb... 5 Wisps spawn in 5 different zones around Norrath.

They are 20 minute spawns and from the information I have... they respawn every 2 hours...

Now, you will need a good group for this because:

The Wisps have 50K HP and hit for 1300 hps.

Now the Zones:

1) Swamp of No Hope- Roaming from Lake of Ill Omen (NW) to Cabilis

2) Befallen- Bottom Floor, center room

3) North Karana- Dead Center of the zone

4) Stonebrunt Mts.- North West Corner of the zone

5) Plane of Growth- Roaming from the North East to the North West Corner

Now.. I have not completed this.. because, well ~gulp~ as a young tier'dal rogue... I did the armor quests... in which you have to kill halflings... so my Rivervale faction is hosed.. been spending time in RunnyEye to fix it, but to no avail yet.. anyone have a good way for getting faction up with Shakey and Reebo? I could use that info!!

So, I hope this help all of you out there! TA

Marauder Edonil Quor'Vlosara
Assassin of the Prophetic Alliance
Firionia Vie Server
"I may be the worst rogue you've ever heard of... but at least you've heard of me..."

[jaelte]

Why faction grind when sneak will suffice?

[Liiono Shadowclaww]

yep. just remember the halfing will turn as you talk to him (Reebo) so when you say the second line, move around behind him again (with sneak still on).

Stupid halflings.

[Edonil]

hehe more like stupid rogue... but hey thank you.. I will give that a shot, because I have done everything over the past week to up faction and it hasn't worked...

[Aanoene]

Too bad the friggin Dark Huntress isn't spawning any more

EDIT: And the vegetation is friggin retarded. Been searching off and on for a few days now, and nada.

I just killed Huntress last night so she does spawn but right in the top tower room. Take the elevator thingy to the top. (stand on the wooden platform and click on it)

And the Vege thing is very easy, look for a small green single leaf under just about every fern in FG.

Aanoene

[gotrexx]

is it possible to MQ this with a bard ? (( and hi iam a new forum member :D ))

[gotrexx]

is it possible for my brother to do this also ? as a bard though there is a illusion tied to this right? :D

[Durden]

You get two Noggin's on the final turn in of THIS quest, one for you (if you so chose to do the quest) and one for a friend (or two for a friends).

[Patofnaud]

is it possible to MQ this with a bard ?I'll have to recheck, but I think they are tradable. ;)