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Koru
12-15-03, 05:57 AM
I just got back from another horrible Christmas experience. And as I look back on it I .. well I feel manly. Which wouldn't be a problem except uh, I'm not a guy.

So I want to finish buying presents so I can just not worry about Christmas stuff. Not a problem right? I only have 3 presents left. And since my family is avoiding shopping (they have some sort of Xmas phobia until the last two weeks) I have to find someone with a car to go with. Enter my best female friend and her friend. Both married women who like cutesy stuff like blouses with lots of frills. Me, I think shuttle computer cases are the cutest thing you ever saw. I admit, this was probably not the best idea I had but cheaper than a taxi, and taking the bus would.. well be practically impossible since public transportation here is something of a myth.

Enter... Ikea. Ikea is set up like a maze, the entire store is designed so that you have to walk and walk and walk before you can get to the counter. There are no short cuts. I should have known what I was getting myself in to when the first thing they do is squeal "Sofa!!" and go crazy over some comfy couch. But it's not that bad and I manage to buy one half of one of the presents I need. And my feet hurt. Furniture stores with nesters, not a good idea.

So now, now we go to the mall. I hate the mall. Desperately cheerful Christmas music blasted continuously on customers in hopes that they'll feel more generous with their money. I, being a spiteful person who wants peace and quiet, just felt like finding all the speakers and smashing them. But the trip starts well enough, I can make a quick dash into a record store and manage to get a present bought. Up to one and a half out of 3.

Then the Walk begins. Where they walk through the mall and insist on going into every other store to look. Nothing is bought of course. And the entire time they talk. Talk talk talk talk "ohwillyoulookatthatisn'tthatjustsocuteit'ssolikehe randwouldmakeagreatpresentrememberthattimeatthepar tywhenshe..." Read dragonlance novels? Imagine the gnomes if they were female and obsessed over shoes and clothes. This is why I prefer buying presents with men, they usually don't feel the overwhelming need to fill every empty quiet moment with chatter. Chatter that's sooo not needed in a busy mall where every other store is playing different music in addition to the mall's sound system.

Then they hit the bookstore. Now my legs ache, my breathing is not doing so well (loud places with lots of people tend to trigger this claustrophobia/panic attack response with me) and all I want is to get away. I decide to stay out in the hall and maybe find a place to sit. Oh wait, there is no place to sit in this part of the mall, except by buying coffee (which I don't drink) at some overly pricy coffee place. So eff it, I just sit down on the floor next to the coffee place chairs. After a while I get bored/fed up and wander off into a nearby computer store. But of course they find me.

By now I've deteriorated to a point where they agree that ok, maybe we should in fact not do their idea of getting something to eat in the mall. My threat of stabbing the person responsible for the so called music probably tipped them off. As I walk in the mall daze I hear them say something about how they should try to not talk as much since I'm slowly slipping into the catatonia of lack of sleep, caffine and quiet. Really, you go a little crazy a few times and people get all sorts of misconceptions about you. Probably shouldn't have told them about the exploding sheep and gnomes on bunnies earlier today, and I guess the really loud "Who's the bloody stupid git who puts this lame music on anyway?" semi-yelling didn't help. This idea of theirs lasts for the 5 seconds it takes them to see something cute. I manage to squeese in the second half of a present and am now up to 2 out of 3. Thankfully I only have to listen to the chatter while they drive me home. I feign continued semi-catatonic state to avoid having to ask about people I've never even heard off for the sake of polite conversation.


Now that I'm home I have to ask: What the bloody blazes is it with women that they're so impossible to go shopping with? I mean some women I can shop with. My second oldest sister is easy to buy things with. We go in, we do the 2 minute decision on what to buy, we go buy it, repeat for each gift and leave. But every other woman seems to either get confused into a total mess, or is too ditzy to get anything done. It's like if there's more than two stores their brains can't decide which one they want to check out first and go insane and decide to check every single one, with the one with what they were originally going to buy being the last store they visit of course.

Secondly: Why do stores insist on always playing overly loud Christmas music? Believe me, by the end of the first two weeks of that I'm not in a Christmas spirit anymore. I may be considering drinking a lot of Christmas spirits, but that's about it. Blasting music at me when I want to sit down somewhere and get something to eat and drink in peace is not a good idea. If they absolutely must have music on at all time then it would not kill them to have the occasional non-Christmas song. Trust me, bolts of lightning will not come down from the sky and strike you down.

AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!! I hate the mall. I hate shopping with normal women. And shopping in the mall with two of them is frellin' hell on earth.

Greldek
12-15-03, 07:21 AM
Heh, when I go to the mall with anyone I immediatly go my own way and give a "lets meet up in x time, at y place." Then dash off before they can say something stupid. And if they follow me (and it's not the one person I enjoy going to the mall with, because we always go for the same exact reason, arcade then lunch) I go to the arcade, and put some money in, that usually deters everyone, because "OMG!! I can't be seen in an arcade!!"

Anyway I had to go to the mall with my sister and mom, and we got lunch, I had to wait for the order while the went to a store, 3 stores down, to buy a shirt, they knew exactly where it was, how much it cost, and the size they needed..

20 min later I'm done with my food, and they come back.. how the @#%$ does buying a shirt take 20 min?!?

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Anyway, I feel for you
I think I would have to stab myself, or the people with me if they did the OMGTHATISSOCUTEICANTBELIEVEIT @#%$ that you described..
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EZ_Jasminne
12-15-03, 07:45 AM
NEVER set foot inside a mall with a female. EVER! even if she has the best intentions NOT to torture you with shopping.

i managed to turn a "wanna get cheap food at the mall?" into "don't let me walk into a shoe store or you will be sorry" which turned into "oooh! cute shoes!" which turned into "i'll be right back!" which eventually turned into "i told you not to let me go into a shoe store!!"

Nenjin
12-15-03, 09:57 AM
The 2 problems I have with shopping with a member of the opposite sex.

1-While she may ask your opinion on the cut, color, price, blah, of what they buying, 90% of the consideration a women gives something is internal....She stands there, fingering it, turning it over, weighing it. You stand there.....watching her do that.

2- EVERYTHING is worth looking at. Even if she knows instantly that she isn't intrested in buying it. While you(the male) make snap judgements about what is worth checking out and what isn't, passing things up, moving right along, she stops and checks out this....and that.......oooh that looks nice.....no, I'm not planning on buying it, I was just looking......this is just like another I have, but it's green....I hate this........God don't rush me, I'm just looking......


Feh. "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable."-John F. Kennedy

freonsmurf
12-15-03, 09:57 AM
Should of stayed in the computer store and wreak havoc upon their machines of consumer madness. MADNESS! MADNESS! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

ahem.

Or play with the remote control cars! Much much fun!

edit: Fond memories of stuck in a radio shack for hours while mom does her shopping. Edited by: FreonSmurf at: 12/15/03 9:58 am

EZ_Telurinon
12-15-03, 10:45 AM
Quote:Furniture stores with nesters, not a good idea.

Oh so very, very, very true!

Another Quality Koru Rant(tm)! I completely sympathise...I've been there far too often. It's the main reason all my Xmas shopping is done online these days.

EZ_DreaDie
12-15-03, 05:20 PM
I went to the mall with two girls and two gay guys. Yeah, beat that. Then beat me in the head for my stupidity. Not that I had a choice in the matter, as I had no ride and was visiting from out of town, but still.. The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. ~Albert Einstein

EZ_minoltasrt101b
12-15-03, 11:02 PM
I'm a relatively normal male, except I can drive even the most dedicated shopaholic girls insane when we visit malls together. I can spend whole days buying a single pair of jeans.

EZ_AsturiasAurora
12-16-03, 12:57 AM
Oy~

I can relate.

I'm one of the types that is an imaptient shopper, which leads to more impuslive shopping habits. My Ex asked me to go shopping with her the other day. After 3 hours of 'ohthatwouldbecute' I feigned a headache and waited out in the car, blissfully.

Myself, if I need a gift for someone....say a coffee pot. I'll think for an ever-so-brief moment on what store may have the largest selection of coffee pots, then park as close as I can to the entrance, hastily walk in, find the coffee pots, spend all of 1-2 minutes deciding which one looks better (vanity is everything ), put it in the cart and hastily find/fight my way up to the registers.

Now of course, comes the impulsive part...

Ok, passing by the electronics section on the way from the coffee pots. *Glance over* Oh, a new DVD was released (puts it in cart). Continue my speedy walk towards the registers, without even missing a beat. Uh oh, snack food section. *Glance over* Gummy bears~ (good munchies while waiting for the 85 year old woman to count out the pennies for her 150 dollar order at the register....) Still never miss a stride (and apologize to the lady for nearly knocking her unconscious while straining to reach the gummies without losing pace and knocking her into the shelf).

Ok, even with delays, its been 6 minutes since I entered the store and now I'm at the register. Good. At least now I can eat my gummy bears and snag a soda from the oh-so-convenient fridges near there, while the old lady is only up to $34 dollar of her 150 dollar order...

Ok half hour later, old lady is done (with help counting from the cashier, two annoyed gentlemen behind her, and the baggage boy).

All and all, 40 minutes to get one gift from start to finish, but at least I managed to get my sugar-fix and a DVD to watch while I go online to order the rest of my christmas gifts....
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EZ_Gozar
12-16-03, 01:11 AM
I have already made it a personal vow to never shop with my girlfriend ever again when she is looking for clothes for herself.

Oh My God... I had no idea. I have been shopping with girls before, but they were AMATEURS! This woman turned pro a few years ago.

Example 1. I took her to the mall in the midst of her first trip to my hometown to meet my parents. I thought I would be nice and I told her I would get her anything she wanted (reasonably) from a clothing store. MISTAKE. MISTAKE. MISTAKE. Do not do this. This is dumb. Learn from me.

She goes into the nearest store and proceeds to go clothing rack by clothing rack, garment by garment. This makes no sense to me. She will look at a rack of identical tops, one at a time. My normal shopping routine is to walk into the store and proceed strait to the back glancing left and right as I go. If nothing catches my eye, I'm out the door.

There is more...

She doesn't just find something she likes, and we walk to the register, or maybe a quick stop to a changing room (hah, I'm a fool). Rather, she finds something she likes, holds on to it (or hands it to me) and keeps looking.

Eventually she has a wardrobe assembled and we saunter off to the dressing rooms where she proceeds to try things on in different combinations. She had picked out pants which match some pants she owns to make sure a top she buys will look good with those pants, but not just one pair of pants, and not just one shirt.

There is this little sign in the dressing room area which states "5 Item limit"

HO HO HO this is disregarded with a passion.

Hours have gone by already, and another hour goes by while she tries things on. I am going INSANE through all this, but eventually she picks a top and we leave.

You would think I would have learned by lesson after that first shot...ho ho ho, think again.

Example 2:

She needs some work out stuff for her yoga/pilates classes. She has none, and she doesn't want to do laundry daily so she needs at least 4 shorts, 4 shirts, and 4 pants. We go to Sportmart.

I think cool. Sportmart. I can do other things while she gets her stuff. It won't be as bad as the mall. It was worse of course.

I knew what time we came in, and I began counting. I examined thoroughly the whole store, worked out, swung baseball bats, bounced basketballs, played ping pong, looked at the camping stuff like I cared. She was only three racks into the store. I stood near her long enough for her to begin handing me things. MISTAKE! I eventually caught the eye of a store employee who offered to get us a rack on wheels. I put all her clothes there and ran away. Did the entire store again more slowly (swung golf clubs, pretended I knew how to use lacross and hockey gear etc...)

OK. long story short. We were in that store for an entire SHIFT!!! We watched employees arrive and leave!

Too much. Put my foot down. Not shopping with her again.

I always thought it was a stereotype about girls and shopping, but now I know the truth.

EZ_Mrens
12-16-03, 01:47 AM
Went christmas shopping with a female friend.

2 damn hours spent going from clothing to clothing store. When she went to try something on I took off and hid inside the nearest Electronic Botique. 20 minutes later she finds me and I catch hell for ditching her. We agree to finish our shopping and call when we are done.

I browse around the EB for about 30 mintues, she shows up there and is ready to go. I have a few more things to buy (I went in there to buy Jedi Acadamy but spent an hour browsing the used game racks instead. So I spend 10 more minutes sellective Jedi Acadamy and paying for it, getting the look of death the whole time for not having done it before she was done. We are making are way to the mall exit when she spots a clothing store she aparently missed. After a half hour of her trying on clothes I went back to the EB. She never asked me to shop with her again

DarthEnderX
12-16-03, 06:15 AM
You GO boy!

EZ_lenweni
12-17-03, 03:25 AM
I vote to give Gozar first prize.

EZ_Kinare
12-17-03, 04:55 AM
Good god.... I hate shopping. I wish there was a clothes fairy I could just tell my size and it would whisk off and bring me neat clothes later. But no. I had to be born with freak tall genes... I am 6' tall, have a 36" inseam and I am nearly impossible to shop for because of my freakish, gangly arms and legs. And do not get me started on shoes. I am very lucky that they make Sketchers in a woman's size 12. My feet are freakishly narrow so men's shoes are out of the question most of the time.

The ONLY reason I take so long to shop is because nothing @#%$ fits. Ever. Oh, sure, I will find the NEATEST shirt at Express and love it to death, and look at it OH MY GOD! I am NOT paying $50 for a @#%$ shirt!!! I can't go to the discount stores because all the crap that is my size has already been picked through by women like me who love shopping, something I hate to do.

Gnmish Gearbinder
12-17-03, 07:11 AM
I don't 'really' mind shopping with my fiance now for clothes because, as Nenjin says-

Quote:1-While she may ask your opinion on the cut, color, price, blah, of what they buying, 90% of the consideration a women gives something is internal....She stands there, fingering it, turning it over, weighing it.

She approaches a rack of blouses and starts digging through them, I give her my male internal compass opinion. 'Crap'. And she usually turns to find something else. If she finds something that my quick appraisal of grants a, 'That looks acceptable', then she is good to go.

Obviously, your milage may vary with the personality type of your given woman...but it works well with mine.

In the 6 years I've been with this girl in particular, it seems to me that on the whole, men are much better at making snap accurate decisions. I can't comprehend how people cannot make a quick appraisal of a situation. The way I see it if you don't pick it up and immediately like it, then cradling it, fondling, reading and re-reading the price, draping it over your arm etc, isn't going to make you like it any better.

Then again, I could just be a man. gnmish.gearbinder.ring.warden.sullon.zek
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EZ_Dazzler Twodirks
12-18-03, 08:41 AM
Men shop different...

They pick up a shirt.

Man: "Shirt"

He drops it on the floor.

Man: "Shirt dead now."

He goes and pays for it.

I've had to shop with female friends and it took 12 stores and a Flea Market just to find pajamas for one's foster brother.

Curse the person who stuck a flea market across the street from a mall.

They ended up going back to the FIRST item from the FIRST store and bought it...nine hours after they started. Dazzler Twodirks High Speed Quisinart for Hire
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Gnmish Gearbinder
12-18-03, 08:44 AM
You had me up until...

Quote:He drops it on the floor.

Man: "Shirt dead now."

He goes and pays for it.

Huh?

Dragynphyre
12-18-03, 09:04 AM
Kinare and I seem to be very much alike in our shopping attitude.

I have problems finding clothes that are made for women of my weight, height, and proportions. I have a longer torso, smaller chest, and shorter legs apparently. Usually pants marked 'Tall' are too long, and 'Average' is just a little too short. Shirts don't seem to come in lengths, so most of them are too short, and are cut for women with DD+ breasts.

Though, I have finally found one designer that tends to make clothes that I like the style and fit of, so it makes life easier to just go to the "Macy Woman" section and look for anything by Liz Claiborne - of course I'm a cheapskate won't buy anything unless it's already marked down.

Shoe shopping sucks big time when you have large feet and the shoes that caught your eye in the first place don't come in your size. One time I went to 10 shoe stores in one mall and after hours of walking around and picking out styles I liked, came out with zero pairs of shoes.

The only place that I've found that I usually walk out with a pair of shoes I like is a department store called Nordstrom, because even if they don't have the exact pair of shoes I wanted in my size, they tend to bring out similar styles to see if those might work for me. Real old-fashioned service, I love it! (Back In Black)
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EZ_nekoken
12-18-03, 01:22 PM
The biggest problem some women have is their insistence on the fit of their clothes and the obsession with style. That's why so many women take so long to shop.

I doubt I've ever bought any clothes that fit me perfectly. Like I care. I wear XL shirts and small shorts because I'm 6'1" and 155lbs. My pants are always too big in the waist so I wear a belt. I buy the same brand of running shoes every time so the size is always the same. All that matters is that they aren't a hideous orange or something.

When I see a girl I sure as hell am not looking to see if her blouse is a perfect fit or not. Most other guys aren't either. Unless you are showing a bunch of skin or wearing something skin tight, we don't care what you are wearing as long as it isn't so garish as to blind us.

EZ_AsturiasAurora
12-18-03, 11:49 PM
Quote:Quote:
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He drops it on the floor.

Man: "Shirt dead now."

He goes and pays for it.
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Huh?

It's the "Hunting/Gathering" philosophy~ We are MEN~ We clubba dino, bring back to wifey to cook. We gotta kill it for us to want it.

EZ_Dahne
12-19-03, 12:02 AM
I have the misfortune to be female with a large frame, big boobs, and no tolerance for discomfort. Do you have any idea how hard it is to find clothes that aren't freaking skin tight? Nobody wants to see my belly fat! Tiny little t-shirts work if you're 100 pounds and chestless, which it seems like the rest of the damn world is. And now my very favorite pants are ripping at the seams! ARRRGH!

EZ_DreaDie
12-21-03, 08:48 PM
Hey, belly fat is good and don't let anyone else tell you otherwise. Skinny girls.. meh. Yuck. I'd much rather have someone with something warm and comfortable on their bones, rather than taut skin. The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. ~Albert Einstein