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Stalk
11-23-05, 06:44 PM
I'm not really looking for help. I'm writing this to myself, basically. However, it also doubles as hope someone else who knows what I'm going through can help me make decisions. Also some small attempt to sort out my feelings.

On Monday night at 11pm, my cat, Lucky, started vomiting foam. I took her to the 24 hour vet in panic, and testings were done. I was pretty much scared out of my mind, because I found she had many symptoms of CRF (Chronic Renal Failure, aka kidney failure).

$2,500 later, and a lot of tests and IV fluids, she is back to normal behavior-wise. But CRF is a Terminal disease. This really hurt me, bad. I was hoping against hope, really, that it was kidney infection which is treatable. I found out at 2pm on Tuesday that it was CRF.

I had not slept for 48 hours at that point, I was out of my mind and could not think straight. I was scrambling everywhere for information on what to do and trying to get help. To make matters worse, CRF is a disease people don't know very much about, and everything is pretty much experimental. Sub-Q's are having a postive effect, but it's not guaranteed.

It's going to cost thousands more to keep her alive. My vet kept suggesting letting her go, (not forcing, just mentioning that it's a choice, but welcoming the idea of fighting the disease). My father was more worried about me than the cat, not wanting me to waste" thousands on a cat that probably won't live more than a few months, a year if we're lucky, more if there's a miracle. He is not wrong for feeling this way, but at the time I was in panic, confused, lacking sleep, mentally, physically, and emotionally breaking apart.

I'm not a cat person, really. I have no special love for animals, either. When I found out my mom's cat died, I didn't think more than "Ah, that's too bad." When my old cats and dogs died or ran away, it never bothered me much. Lucky is special.

During a time when I was lonely through middle school and high school without friends because I was deaf, Lucky had been there. When I was depressed and almost suicidal around the time I dropped out of HS and went to Junior college, Lucky had been there and comforting me, taking my mind off of my feelings.

I took her for the granted so much. She was with me all the time, slept with me, cuddled, all day every day. These last two days, I found myself looking around for her often forgetting she was at the vet. Last night was horrible, I had a hard time sleeping. I would wake up and look around for her, and get up in fear that she got out of the house, was locked in a room somewhere, or something bad happened. Then after the inital panic, I remembered she was a t the vet, and got depressed and had a hard time falling asleep again. This happened 20+ times last night.

Afterwards, I was able to think more clearly. I understood now how important she was to me in my life. I understood that she had helped me through hard times. I also understood that now is the time I must help her through HER hard times. If I do not take all the chances I can, I will regret it for the rest of my life. It may be a waste of thousands, but money can be made again. Cats are replacable, really, to me. But Lucky is not.

Lucky has had kittens many times in the past, but I have never felt attached to them. I helped nurture them because they were her kitties, but it was Lucky I was worried about and taking care of. It may sound cruel, but that's the reality.

I was also told that she has kidney stones and a stomach tumor. We found out today at 1pm that while she has kidney stones, it is not far enough to be affecting her. No immediate treatment is neccessary, but we will have to discuss it later if she can get better from this. The tumor didn't exist.

All morning, I was stressed out. I was trying my best to fake interest in things, work, what people said. Same with yesterday. I had a hard time focusing both days and everything felt so pointless.

More than anything, I felt worthless. If my dad did not love me so much and cared about me so much, Lucky would have been dead right now. I would not have been able to afford to help her, and there would have been no choice but to euthausize her.

And why couldn't I help her? I have a DVD collection which values in the tens of thousands of dollars. I have a anime figure collection worth nearly 10,000. A manga collection worth thousands.

I have a $4000 computer with $1000 montiors. I have a house, a $35,000 truck, $2000 in video game consoles and $1000+ of games.

Why am I not able to do anything for her? Because I'm a dumb ass who can't save a single penny. I was trying to save for a trip to Japan, not for savings. I also wanted to save for a motorcycle, for a TV.

And now, when I need money the most, the most important person to me could have died. Not just now, but in the future. What if it was my brothers who needed money? What if my sister did? What if? What if? All these thoughts run in my mind. And I would have been useless.

"Sorry, I don't have money. I spent them on DVD's. They're more important than your lives."

That's what I feel like I showed Lucky when she got diagnosed. "I couldn't be buggered to save a penny to help you when you needed it, so I'm going to run to my rich daddy to help you. Such a wonderful person I am, that you helped and loved. This is my feelings for you."

That's just ****** up. I don't care how it's justified, it can't be said anything but ****** up. I ****** up. I was a dumb ass who thought nothing of real problem would happen. Look how ******* useless I am now.

What's that DVD collection worth now? It's worthless. My figure collection which I valued so much? Worthless. Everything is just worthless. Why do I have all this stuff when I could have been using it to save my most beloved's life? What am I doing? How could I have been so ******* stupid?

I am so pissed off at myself. All I can do right now is do what I can, despite my feelings, my cat is most important right now. I have a final appointment tomorrow to discuss all the findings, then we will discuss it more later on.

I'm feeling calmer now that most of the worst case scenarios have been removed, there's only three choices here. One worst case, one bad case, and one best case. Here's to hoping for the best, even though it's still bad, pratically speaking.

Sigh.

Sollon Darkmoon
11-23-05, 07:06 PM
Wow....im sorry man. I hope there is some way you can help your cat even if it is just for a little while :(. The pain of seeing something(human or animal) you really care about suffer is a VERY bad feeling whether it is human or animal. You just have to remeber you can't control nature and that you have to do the best you can while you have the time left :(. All i know is that it will only get better with time...best you can do is help all ya can and remember the good times. If you play the "what if" game you will only make yourself worse in the end...You just need to remember the happy times! Im sure Lucky would not want you to be sad!

Sorry I suck at this heh...but I know how it feels I have lost a pet pretty close to me and it was very hard at first to get over :(.

Edit: DONT WATCH ANYTING DEPRESSING! :P

DarkOmen42
11-23-05, 07:48 PM
I know you're attached to your cat, but at some point it becomes selfish to try and keep them alive. Suffering is a terrible thing, I've raised animals since I was a kid myself. I've seen a some screwed up stuff, but its always better to put an animal down than to let it suffer.

Loreleli
11-23-05, 07:49 PM
I read a rottweiler web site almost daily. There's 1 section I usually avoid because each time I read it, I cry. They call it 'going to the bridge' - for when someone looses a dog.

The one common theme by all the posters - owners, breeders, even vets - let the animal die with dignity. You know she is not going to get better unless the do kidney dialysis or transplants - which is unheard of for cats. Take this time to hold her and let her go. It's her time.

True story - I bathed a dog, he caught a chill. Died within 24 hours. A perfectly healthy 8 year old dog (before bath.)I was shocked cause I'd bathed him before and never had this happen with any animal. I was off work that day when he died and I cried all day. The guilt was overwhelming. My brother teased that the other 2 dogs would say -' remeber what happened to Scruffy!' and hide. A co-worker said - 'didn't you know he needed that dirt to live?' Ugh, it's been 10 years and I still feel really bad about it.

My point is - you have done everything you can, but paying 1k or 10k more to keep her alive for 1 day longer, it doesn't help her in the long run if her body is shutting down and other organs start to fail. Even if/when she passes, she will live on in your heart.

In deepest sympathy,

Stalk
11-23-05, 08:39 PM
I'm sorry, maybe I was not clear.

She is not suffering right now. I have already come to terms that there WILL come a time when she must be put away. I'm doing whatever I can to prolong her life, AND maintain her quality of life.

Many people report the same, let them die with dignity. However, for most, post diagnosis, that time can be 1-7 years later.

I am not spending this money on the chance of one day, even though I may have anyway. I am spending it on the chance of years. Right now, I have recently found her values were high, but there have been much higher who survived with great quality of life (pratically just as good as new, so to speak) for years before the time came that they started to suffer too much and had to be put away.

My point is, I am not ignoring or disregarding this. I am already prepared to do so. I just have no intentions of rushing that time when I have not done all I can.

ShadowCross
11-23-05, 10:17 PM
One of my two cats was put down this May.

It might have been possible to keep her alive a few weeks/months more, but she was so miserable to look at and would have to get shots and infusions every (other) day, without us knowing exactly what is was without massive tests.

She was about 13 years old, and with me being low on money too, decided I don't want her to suffer anymore...

I've been living with cats for the last 28 years, all my life. This was my first own cat that I had (others were my parents') and the first cat ever I attended being put down.

Damn, I cried a lot that day.. I still get wet eyes and tears even writing this. Still I know that after almost 6 years of time together with her, it was the right thing to do.

Loreleli
11-24-05, 12:40 AM
good! then I hope she is able to recover.

I forgot to mention - they do have pet insurance, but as she was already diagnosed, not sure they cover it. I'll look to see if the link is still listed at that web page. I almost signed up, but haven't yet because it's the same cost for my dogs shots & heartworm medicine as without.

Rott owners get the insurance alot because TPO surgery is 2.5k a shot.

edit : spelling. only 4 hours of sleep, ugh.... /snore

notwen
11-24-05, 05:19 AM
This post comes at a funny time for me. This morning while packing my things for the move I came upon some pictures we had of my cat when I was living at home during college. One of my mom petting him on the couch, one him half on my lap looking up at me as I petted him while reading a copy of wizard, one with him reaching up a paw to a sandwhich on the coffee table, and a final one of him stepping up and sniffing it.

He was put down about 6 years ago. As I looked at the pictures I remembered how sad I was the day my dad took him to the Vet to be put to sleep. I cried uncontrollably almost all day. When I came home from work and he wasn't there anymore I couldn't handle it and left. But now looking at the pictures I felt guilty that not a single tear came to me thinking back on it.

Reading your post though helped me reconnect to it, and the tears returned.

I can't offer any words of comfort to you that won't make me feel like a jackass. Make the right choice for you so you won't have any regrets about Lucky. If that means spending $10,000 to keep her alive/comfortable for as long as possible, I don't think it's a decision you would regret from the feelings you express in your post.

Solanar
11-24-05, 06:09 PM
My cat got put down with a shotgun because I was poor. That's got no dignity at all, but it ended the suffering. I cried a lot that week, it was the only cat I ever had that was worth a ****. Although at one time or another growing up I'd had between 10 and 15 cats (not all at once, dear god!) most of them were just...there.

Gremlin was awesome though. He was a fat, cuddly, shorthaired cat, who never once in his life bit or intentionally scratched anyone. When my god daughters were little and would pound on him or grab his fur to help them stand up he just purred through it and if they got too rough would move just a little out of reach. He was the best.

Dorla
11-24-05, 06:48 PM
I had to put one of my cats down about 8 years ago, and I still miss him. His name was Sammy, named after Sammy Hagar, heh. He was so playful and adorable, had the bone structure of a Siamese but the coloring of an orange tabby. He started slowing down gradually, and eventually he would just sit in his cat bed and not move. I took him to the vet and he tested positive for FIP (Feline Infectious Peritonitis), which is fatal. The doctor put a giant needle in his chest and pulled out a full tube of yellow liquid. :( I remember asking if there was anything we could do to prolong his life, and the doc said "Well, you could bring him in once a week to have that same needle aspiration done... he might last 6 weeks and he might last 6 months". I just couldn't put him through that, and I ended up having him put down.

If there would have been anything, ANYTHING else I could have done to keep him comfortable and let him enjoy his last days, I would have done so. But I just didn't see a needle in the chest every week as any better than the alternative. I wish to God there had been something.

The other cat I had at the same time as Sammy is named Carl... he's still with me to this day. I cherish every day with him, he's so wonderful.

Here is a photo of the two of them... it's cruddy quality but it's scanned from a real picture. Sammy is the orange guy, Carl is the fat grey guy. I love this photo because it reminds me of that one with the fat bulldog and the cat caught snuggling in the dark. :)

http://members.cox.net/lcruver/carlsam.gif

ShadowCross
11-24-05, 10:43 PM
I'm not sure how the practice is in the US, but make sure your cat gets anesthetization before they put them down. I only mention this because I know that some rural vets sometimes put down cats/dogs without anesthetization... and that's just awful.

On the other hand, I was amazed how calm and peaceful of a moment it was when my cat was put down. I was holding and petting her for those last few moments... I'll never forget that...

Dragynphyre
11-25-05, 09:06 AM
My boyfriend's 10 year old Japanese bobtail cat was diagnosed with CRF about 2 years ago.

At first we thought it was a reaction to the new cat in the house, but we took him to the vet when he stopped eating and drinking for more than a day or so - on the day he went in, he was also getting bad diarhhea and was wheezing when he breathed.

Like you, we spent over $2000 to have the cat boarded for 4 days, on an IV. He was severely dehydrated, even his fur felt dry. When he got home, we had to give him syringes full of medicine and Mylanta because the medicine could irritate his stomach. He was eating and drinking again, and seemed his old self.

6 months later, it started happening again - made the difficult decision to put him down rather than have him go through all that over and over and over again.

Turns out, CRF is very common in Japanese bobtails for some reason - we'll have to watch the younger one for signs of this later on as well - he's only 3 now though, so he should be ok for a while.

Kaielen
11-25-05, 01:46 PM
God damn it...Stalkyr...I'm crying at work and ****.

My own sweetie, Midas, has been there for me through it all. I rescued her from a puddle of water and hand nursed her back to health and would be lost without her.

Stalk
11-25-05, 07:51 PM
My boyfriend's 10 year old Japanese bobtail cat was diagnosed with CRF about 2 years ago.

At first we thought it was a reaction to the new cat in the house, but we took him to the vet when he stopped eating and drinking for more than a day or so - on the day he went in, he was also getting bad diarhhea and was wheezing when he breathed.

Like you, we spent over $2000 to have the cat boarded for 4 days, on an IV. He was severely dehydrated, even his fur felt dry. When he got home, we had to give him syringes full of medicine and Mylanta because the medicine could irritate his stomach. He was eating and drinking again, and seemed his old self.

6 months later, it started happening again - made the difficult decision to put him down rather than have him go through all that over and over and over again.

Turns out, CRF is very common in Japanese bobtails for some reason - we'll have to watch the younger one for signs of this later on as well - he's only 3 now though, so he should be ok for a while.


Right now, she is on Sub-Q fluids. A giving set, not syringes. She is finally home now, and I'm happy. I'm still very worried, she was sedated for the last 24 hours and she probably still has after-effects of it, so I am having a hard time telling if she's just sedated or she has anaemia. Going to have to wait another 24-36 hours until then.

Seeing as how sedation can cause lack of apetite, I am pretty much forced to do assist-feeding through syringes. A little inhumane, maybe, but I don't intend to do it over a long period of time. She hasn't eaten in 72+ hours, so it's either this, or she will die.

Right now, all things considered, she seems pretty happy. She's not in pain as far as I can see. I have a feeling it's mostly sedation as her PCV is 24% - not ideal, however still not severe (under 20%).

I'm doing a lot of things to stimulate her appetite, but have decieded to wait until tomorrow to deciede what to do.

Hoping the worst doesn't come to worst just yet.

Jhani Vandolay
11-26-05, 06:07 AM
"Sorry, I don't have money. I spent them on DVD's. They're more important than your lives."

That's what I feel like I showed Lucky when she got diagnosed.

Forget that kind of thought if you haven't already. Hindsight may be 20/20 but you didn't make that choice, you didn't have a reason to expect an emergency. Sure you've learned to be more prepared now, and it hurts to feel like you overlooked something you shouldn't have (saving), but you didn't sit there thinking.. "Eh.. hospital bills, or a dvd? Dvd!!", and you shouldn't make yourself feel like it's similar. It's not even like you knew something bad was coming up and didn't bother anyway, you just didn't know. I know now you probably feel like it seems so elementary, but it's reasonable to be caught off guard, and you shouldn't feel like a @#%$head for not expecting the worst. I know it's natural to feel so awful at a time like that.. but seriously, don't put yourself down, don't wallow in it, and know for damn sure that no matter what it feels like now retrospectively as far as not being prepared, that's not the choice you made, not like you're feeling. Everyone makes mistakes and most people learn about being prepared for emergencies the hard way, too.

Stalk
11-26-05, 10:07 PM
Forget that kind of thought if you haven't already. Hindsight may be 20/20 but you didn't make that choice, you didn't have a reason to expect an emergency. Sure you've learned to be more prepared now, and it hurts to feel like you overlooked something you shouldn't have (saving), but you didn't sit there thinking.. "Eh.. hospital bills, or a dvd? Dvd!!", and you shouldn't make yourself feel like it's similar. It's not even like you knew something bad was coming up and didn't bother anyway, you just didn't know. I know now you probably feel like it seems so elementary, but it's reasonable to be caught off guard, and you shouldn't feel like a @#%$head for not expecting the worst. I know it's natural to feel so awful at a time like that.. but seriously, don't put yourself down, don't wallow in it, and know for damn sure that no matter what it feels like now retrospectively as far as not being prepared, that's not the choice you made, not like you're feeling. Everyone makes mistakes and most people learn about being prepared for emergencies the hard way, too.


Dorla, that is a really cute picture.

Jhani, I understand what you are saying. But whether or not I did not predict the emergency, or chose one or the other - the fact remains, had I been a better person, this would not have happened.

That is not to say I am taking that thought badly. I am not self-destructive. I get sad at times, but I know that there are more important things to do. I accept the fact that I almost cost a loved one their life with my lifestyle. I'm sad about it, but all that means is I must fix it.

I'm not going to mope about it, I'm fustrated, worried, exhausted, perhaps, but I must work on facing the problems right now using the knowledge I've learned from the past. There's no room in my life for regretting what I've done.

I guess I'm sounding a bit cheesy. I'm hard on myself, but it helps me keep a level head when I do so, to see things for what they really mean, without being clouded by unneccessary thoughts, and feelings.

And for a update... Lucky's home, she's feeling a bit better. I had a crappy vet who just wanted to euthausize her, when I went in last night. Going to wait for my usual vet who's more supportive. Need to treat her anaemia asap.

Lenilya
11-26-05, 11:56 PM
I feel for ya bud, my cat back home was diagnosed with severe heart problems on Friday after suddenly losing contol of his hind legs on thanksgiving. He's on meds right now and can use his legs again, but the vet said he doesn't have much longer, prolly. I'll be facing the same dilemma myself here in a bit, tho I know I will have done my all to keep him happy and comfortable until he begins to suffer, which will be kept to an absolute minimum.

Really wish I were home with the parents right now, able to do all this in person. :frown

Stalk
11-27-05, 06:07 PM
Just showing a picture of Lucky. She's up to about 85% of her old self now. Yay!

100kb, my favorite picture of her! (can you believe those pictures are ~35% of the original, I love my friend's camera! resolution is 2272x1704)
http://stalk.theown.org/lucky01.jpg


Some other ones, below 75kb

http://stalk.theown.org/lucky02.jpg
http://stalk.theown.org/lucky03.jpg

If someone can make me a SH acceptable avatar, I'd appreciate it. If you need the bigger ones, let me know please.

I'm much happier now that she's doing better. I still understand I must face the inevitable eventually, but to make such a recovery in under one week has amazed a lot of people in CRF support groups. Her numbers are still bad, but it's fine as long as it's stable.

Sollon Darkmoon
11-27-05, 07:56 PM
<--------- Best i can do for fast work heh. Mybe len can hi-def it :P

Just right-click and save as pic in case ya want it hehe..

Stalk
11-27-05, 08:39 PM
<--------- Best i can do for fast work heh. Mybe len can hi-def it :P

Just right-click and save as pic in case ya want it hehe..

I saved it, Sollon. But a friend provided me with the one I have now. I liked the picture better so... but I might rotate them. Thanks for your time.

Sorry to hear about your cat, Lenilya. It really sucks when you're in the room and listening to the doctor explain how little time they have. Makes you feel really hopeless. Here's to hoping your cat can live a happy life with you.

Sollon Darkmoon
11-27-05, 08:58 PM
<---- did one of the 3rd just in case hehe. Wish i could darken the flash effect tho :( But my artist skills are lacking =/.

Dragynphyre
11-28-05, 05:37 AM
Your cat has the same bone structure as my boyfriend's Japanese Bobtails (except that she has a tail), and some Siamese that I've seen. Very Asian.

The white fur is a pain if you like to wear a lot of black, and they like to curl up on the basket of fresh folded laundry ;)

Stalk
11-28-05, 06:23 AM
Your cat has the same bone structure as my boyfriend's Japanese Bobtails (except that she has a tail), and some Siamese that I've seen. Very Asian.

The white fur is a pain if you like to wear a lot of black, and they like to curl up on the basket of fresh folded laundry ;)

Thanks Sollon, saved that one too.

Delis - I never wear dark clothes, heh. All my clothes are light colors - gray, white, light blue, light tan, etc for this very reason. And yes, her mother was siamese so that's a nice catch.

PsiKoTicK
11-28-05, 11:13 AM
Stalkyr, I agree with Jhani. Whatever the case may be, you didn't know or expect this to happen. Don't beat yourself up for buying things that make you happy (anime, figurines, games, computer, etc).

I do the same thing. And ya know what? When an emergency comes around, I have noone to turn to. Be thankful your Dad is who he is, and allows you to come to him. Don't look at the bad, look at the good.

Lucky's ok, and you have a loving family. Sounds like life isn't so bad, man.

Jaesin
11-28-05, 11:32 AM
Ugh... I was home for the thanksgiving holiday, and I got to visit with my cat again... Squirrel, we named him that because he would jump 5-6 feet into the air as a kitten, crazy little bugger. Now he's settled down quite a bit, he always sleeps on my pillow right above my head when I am at home... I know he's getting older, about 4-5 right now, and I've had him since he was a kitten, two of our other cats are his mom and dad, now both fixed. He was almost sold, as we were breeding at the time, his possible owner backed down, and they have no idea what kind of cat they gave up. He greets me at the door, he cried so loud when I went into my mom's room before I left because he thought I was gone. When I moved out he sat at the door for almost 3 weeks during the day, at night he slept on my bed.

That's the one thing about college I miss, I grew up with pets, now I have none... :( I still remember when we lost our last dog, that was hard, she had lukemia, had swallowed a superball 2 years prior, just a beautiful, intelligent, yet dumb as a brick dog.

PS: Squirrel, http://imageserver1.textamerica.com/user.images.x/1/IMG_467401/_1128/T520051128112707253.jpg

Stalk
12-05-05, 05:07 PM
Today, I went to the vet at 1:30. CRF is is a terminal disease, so I was prepared to hear the worst.

I was anxious and worried as the doctor took a blood test. He seemed prepared to tell me the worst.

15 minutes went by. He came back, and the first words he asked was, "Do you believe in miracles?"

My heart skipped several beats. I couldn't believe what he just said. Is he dicking me around?

Lucky's numbers went back to normal. Her behavior, drinking habits, and everything are completely fine now. She's going to live. It took a bit for this to sink in. My cat is going to live.

I don't know what to think or feel. It was as though a great burden has come off my shoulders. It might not be CRF. Even if it is, she will have another five years left to live, give or take.

This is really a wonderful day. My cat is resting on my lap exhausted from the vet visist and getting her blood taken twice (we're sending it out ot a more high-tech lab)

It really is a wonderful day.

Sollon Darkmoon
12-05-05, 06:00 PM
Today, I went to the vet at 1:30. CRF is is a terminal disease, so I was prepared to hear the worst.

I was anxious and worried as the doctor took a blood test. He seemed prepared to tell me the worst.

15 minutes went by. He came back, and the first words he asked was, "Do you believe in miracles?"

My heart skipped several beats. I couldn't believe what he just said. Is he dicking me around?

Lucky's numbers went back to normal. Her behavior, drinking habits, and everything are completely fine now. She's going to live. It took a bit for this to sink in. My cat is going to live.

I don't know what to think or feel. It was as though a great burden has come off my shoulders. It might not be CRF. Even if it is, she will have another five years left to live, give or take.

This is really a wonderful day. My cat is resting on my lap exhausted from the vet visist and getting her blood taken twice (we're sending it out ot a more high-tech lab)

It really is a wonderful day.

Yay! grats to you and lucky! May she live a LONG time! :)

Lenilya
12-05-05, 07:12 PM
I believe in miracles
Where you from
You sexy thing
I believe in miracles
Since you came along
You sexy thing

ShadowCross
12-05-05, 09:56 PM
Grats! That's just awesome!

It's a miracle,
We're having a miracle on earth,
mother nature does it all for us

Dragynphyre
12-06-05, 05:28 AM
*cheer!*

Sollon Darkmoon
12-06-05, 05:41 AM
I believe in miracles
Where you from
You sexy thing
I believe in miracles
Since you came along
You sexy thing

Lol all i can think about is that scene in AMV hell 3 :P...

Stalk
12-06-05, 02:47 PM
It really is just incredible. We can't figure out what happened. It's like she just went back to normal. Technically this is impossible to happen. The doctors are trying to figure out what to do now. Do we continue treatment? Do we stop and check again? Do we use a different treatment? What are we supposed to do?!

It's just that baffling. I've been studying this disease for the last two weeks, and I am lost. The doctors are lost. We decieded to not take any risks and continue the treatment for two weeks and get a blood check again.

It's so confusing since to begin with, since CRF and ARF both don't have very much known about them, even though they affect 100% of all cats out there if they live long enough, and 50% by 15 years old. We only know treatments, there's no "cure." And it doesn't go away (at least, it's not supposed to).

So confusing but I'd rather be overwhelmed by this than what I was overwhelmed with two weeks ago, I'll tell ya that much.

*pleasantly exhausted*

Lenilya
12-11-05, 01:20 PM
news on my end- Punkin had a stoke on Tuesday, hasn't been able to walk without assistance getting up. He's doing a bit better now tho. Parents say he's allmost able to walk again on his own, and is recovering quite nicely otherwise.

Sollon Darkmoon
12-11-05, 01:21 PM
news on my end- Punkin had a stoke on Tuesday, hasn't been able to walk without assistance getting up. He's doing a bit better now tho. Parents say he's allmost able to walk again on his own, and is recovering quite nicely otherwise.

Yay!! go go good news!

Sollon Darkmoon
12-13-05, 07:24 AM
What no Stalkyr cat update :(?

Lenilya
12-22-05, 02:42 AM
.....

After recovering at a steady pace, Punkin had a massive, ultimately fatal second stroke on Tuesday morning, I was informed this evening. I'm pretty depressed, I had hoped to see him next week when I went on leave back home. Alas, he will be waiting for me elsewhere, enjoying the beer volcano and strippers. Gonna miss ya, Punk.

:rip

Stalk
12-22-05, 05:58 AM
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After recovering at a steady pace, Punkin had a massive, ultimately fatal second stroke on Tuesday morning, I was informed this evening. I'm pretty depressed, I had hoped to see him next week when I went on leave back home. Alas, he will be waiting for me elsewhere, enjoying the beer volcano and strippers. Gonna miss ya, Punk.

:rip

I'm really sorry to hear that, Len. That must really suck :(

DoonBackfighter
12-22-05, 09:16 AM
:frown

Loreleli
12-22-05, 01:04 PM
deepest sympathy Len. :(

My parents put to sleep my rabbit while I was at school. He was ill but I think it was treatable.

That rabbit was part dog, I swear. He was a super cool. Liter box trained in 30 minutes and grunted when pissed. He once threw a man's dress shoe 3 feet, the shoe weighed more than him.

Sollon Darkmoon
12-22-05, 01:06 PM
.....

After recovering at a steady pace, Punkin had a massive, ultimately fatal second stroke on Tuesday morning, I was informed this evening. I'm pretty depressed, I had hoped to see him next week when I went on leave back home. Alas, he will be waiting for me elsewhere, enjoying the beer volcano and strippers. Gonna miss ya, Punk.

:rip

Sorry Len :(...