Incorporeal Chain BP - What's good for slot 1 now?

[EZ_MarissaBattlemouse]

With the latest patch, you can no longer have two 40hp augs on this chain BP. Has anyone seen any new slot 1 items that would be worth buying? The 20hp/20mana for 1150 isn't worth the points. Currently I'd put the 40hp type 2 Glowing Sapphire of Courage and the Refined Ore of Wellness Regen III type 3 augs on it.



Marissa
Magelo
www.descendents.org

[EZ_Riot Sio Zon]

What is your current Sta at? If it isn't maxed then the +6Sta could help you regain some of the lost straight HP.

[EZ_SincroFashad]

Did they remove the Veng III type 3 augment? If not, then I would personally stick Veng on your BP and not regen.

-Sinc

[EZ_QuentisLocksmythe]

there is actually a cheaper V3 for chest only, type 3. 510 points from mistmoor.

But what about that %&^%#@ slot 1! WTF!?

[EZ_Vivid Dreamings Trio]

Actually the regen for chest is 5 points of regen, not 3. I intend to get that for both my necro & bard.

If you need/want regen at all I'd suggest that one, as it's by far the best regen/adventure points available.

Aside from that I'd personally go for the Aura of Battle ones...regen 2 & Veng 2 for the same price as either regen 3 or veng 3 separately. Not sure if they're lore though.

[EZ_bippinfv]

What about
Quote:Type ANY: Solid coal of prowess, +40 hps, restriction: head arms chest leggs and feet. all/all

[EZ_Vivid Dreamings Trio]

Dunno if that's all/all any more...I think that was the purpose of the nerf, to prevent people from adding too many HP with augs, and that aug in particular.

[EZ_Fitz]

Hi Marissa,

Long Time no see.

[EZ_Talzar BBH]

There are +10 stat items that can go in slot one. MM has a dex and cold resist ones for around 340. Those two can go in any slot.

[EZ_Retch the rogue]

8ac any slot ones from Rujark, 69ac breastplate isnt bad heh

[EZ_DruPDM]

Takish has some regen augments that fit everywhere, regen II was cheap, Regen III being like 1400 (I think!).

[EZ_Panamah]

I think this data is up to date. It's the any slot stuff.

Quote:Guk 1150 AnySlot Ooze-Covered Pebble of Perfection Notlore, HP:20, Mana:20 All
Ear, Face, Neck, Shoulder, Back, Range, Primary, Secondary, Finger, Waist
Guk 663 AnySlot Polished Ore of Power Str:8, Dex:8 All All
Guk 357 AnySlot Peerless Crystal of Enticement Lore, Cha:10 All All
Guk 357 AnySlot Peerless Shard of Might Lore, Str:10 All All
Guk 357 AnySlot Peerless Pearl of Magical Warding Lore, MR:10 All All
Guk 150 AnySlot Spore-Covered Pebble of Warding Notlore, AC:4 Rng, Rog, Shm Fac
e, Neck, Shoulder, Back, Waist
Mir 510 AnySlot Smooth Marble Sphere of Prowess Notlore, AC:4 Nec, Wiz, Mag, En
c Face, Neck, Shoulder, Back, Waist
Mir 357 AnySlot Peerless Jewel of Nimbleness Lore, Agi:10 All All
Mir 357 AnySlot Peerless Ruby of Fiery Warding Lore, FR:10 All All
Mir 150 AnySlot Jagged Marble Sphere of Protection Notlore, AC:5 War, Clr, Pal,
Shd, Brd Face, Neck, Shoulder, Back, Waist
Mmc 663 AnySlot Hardened Slate of Protection Lore, DR:8, PR:8 All All
Mmc 663 AnySlot Ruby Sphere of Intellect Lore, Cha:8, Int:8 All All
Mmc 510 AnySlot Brilliant Blood Ruby of Prowess AC:10 War, Clr, Pal, Shd, Brd F
ace, Neck, Shoulder, Back, Waist
Mmc 357 AnySlot Peerless Diamond of Chilling Protection Lore, CR:10 All All
Mmc 357 AnySlot Peerless Gem of Deftness Lore, Dex:10 All All
Ruj 663 AnySlot Tainted Shard of Ingenuity Lore, Cha:8, Wis:8 All All
Ruj 510 AnySlot Brittle Coal of Prowess AC:8 Rng, Rog, Shm Face, Neck, Shoulder
s, Waist
Ruj 357 AnySlot Peerless Opal of Illness Warding Lore, DR:10 All All
Ruj 357 AnySlot Peerless Sphere of Fortitude Lore, Sta:10 All All
Ruj 150 AnySlot Loose Coal of Guarding AC:2 Nec, Wiz, Mag, Enc Face, Neck, Shou
lder, Back, Waist
Tak 760 AnySlot Diamond Prism of Companions Effect:Summoner'sBoon Nec, Mag, Bst
Primary, Secondary, Range
Tak 663 AnySlot Sparkling Quartz of Resistance Lore, FR:5, CR:5, MR:5 All All
Tak 510 AnySlot Fractured Diamond Prism of Prowess Notlore, AC:5 Dru, Mnk, Bst
Face, Neck, Shoulder, Back, Waist
Tak 357 AnySlot Peerless Gemstone of Knowledge Lore, Int:10 All All
Tak 357 AnySlot Peerless Fragment of Intellect Lore, Wis:10 All All
Tak 357 AnySlot Peerless Emerald of Poison Protection Lore, PR:10 All All

[EZ_Lauralei023]

I'm going to put the +10 sta from Ruj on mine for the slot 1. With a shaman I'm usually at the stamina cap, but I figure it will be useful for those times when I don't have one around. I definitely would have preferred a +40hp augment here, but oh well.

I added the 510pt Veng 3 chest only augment for slot 3 already (from Butcherblock camp).

Slot 2 will be the +40 hp from Tak.

[EZ_Shadowtiger]

Just a thought, but I have a question for ya, Lauralei:

when you don't have a shaman around (ie you aren't on a raid) do you ever need the extra HP form 10 STA?

The only time I am really concerned with my HP is when I am raiding...the rest of the time we are tlaking about getting hit once in a while from unintended agro, but never anything where another 10 STA is going to make or break the situation.

Not trying to be argumentive: I just don't think it would make sense for ME.

What about the rest of ya??

[EZ_Lauralei023]

I'm a ranger and tank a decent amount in xp/ldon groups, so the +10 sta can come in handy. Obviously this is moreso for me than a rogue, but hp are still important for you guys - and ~40 hp from stamina isnt too bad.

For the original poster, who is at max stamina/dex/etc... I would say your options, given the current available items on the merchants, are to grab a resist augment for that slot, or wait and see if any +hp augments drop (the +15 or +12 ones may fit in that slot?).

[berael]

12HP aug that I got the other night as a drop is Type 7.

[EZ_araxas xev]

Quote:Just a thought, but I have a question for ya, Lauralei:

when you don't have a shaman around (ie you aren't on a raid) do you ever need the extra HP form 10 STA?


I just added a +10 STA augment to my LDoN dagger's type 1 slot, and I was at 295 unbuffed STA before that. It's not about having a shammy around or not as much as it is having an extra buff slot to do whatever you want with when your stamina is capped at 305. Often on AE fights requiring a resist buff I'd have to click off Spiritual Dominion or something, now that I can click off Boar I get to keep the regen :P

[EZ_Maggoteer]

not a bad all/all from EF for 663 thats 8sta/8agi...2 *hard to get* stats not present on that BP

[EZ_Brudal]

12hp and 15hp augs are not type 7 they are all slot types. Unless something other than "Perfect Garnet of Constitution" and "Pristine Garnet of Constitution" drops, they are all slots.

Marshall Brudal Beatings
Overlord of Sandwiches
Vis Maior

[EZ_Katsuo Muramasa]

Hmm. your sure thats not an old picture or a picture of when they screwed up the loots? I have that BP and I am 90% positive that its.

type 2
type 2
type 3

Going to log on tonight to be 100% positive.

[EZ_Qutsemnie]

there is 2 incorporeal bp. yes to be cliche there is a nerf and a prenerf.

[EZ_1TruKing]

The pre nerf bp's were type 2 type 2 type 3 so you could buy a type 2 30 hp type 2 40 hp and type all 40 hp and make a nice 210 hp bp. They nerfed the type all to type 7 and nerfed the bp's to type 1 type 2 type 3. Existing bp's were allowed to stay type 2 type 2 type 3 so on those you can still do type 2 30 hp and type 2 40 for a nice 170 hp bp.

Ooze covered peblle of perfection is type 7 first off and secondly it doesnt fit into chest slot.

As said before the only things I have seen decent for type 1 would be a 12 or 15 hp augment and I think there are some type all's from raids that are 50 hp but odd's are if you can get those augments you can get a better bp anyway.

[EZ_Syndal Baenre]

If you're going to put one of those 12 or 15 hp augs that drop in missions into that slot 1... Why not just put that 20hp/20mana one instead? It's more hps than the 12/15 augs? Sure the mana is useless, but if you're only interested in the hps then that's your best bet at this point I think. The resists are another option I think too. It's always nice to have more resists.

Syndal Baenre
65th Pain in the Behind

[EZ_1TruKing]

Well to answer the question of why dont you put a 20hp/mana into it over the 12 or 15 hp augments? Because you cant. 20 hp/mana is type 7 or type 2 not type 1 now even if it were type 1 or even the old type all it's not chest slot.

[EZ_Syndal Baenre]

In that case, get resists if your stats are already maxed out. I would sort of think that 12/15 hps wouldn't save you from a dot that does 100 points a tick or even a rampage. I know the hps add up, but 12/15 points less for a bunch of resists? Worth it? I'd like to think so.

Syndal Baenre
65th Pain in the Behind

[EZ_Harmful1]

The +12 Perfect Garnet of Constitution is type 7 not type 1. It will not fit in type 1 slots like other looted augments that are type All. The info on allahkazams is wrong.
Edited by: Harmful1 at: 11/22/03 3:38 pm

[EZ_1TruKing]

They must have nerfed it because the perfect garnet of consitution I have on my shoulders is type all.

[EZ_Syndal Baenre]

/agree
I have that too and it's type all. I'm actually going to end up replacing that with a Veng 4 aug instead though.

Syndal Baenre
65th Pain in the Behind

[EZ_zotha]

Yes, 140hp is highest you can get from from these BPs now. All the hp augments, both bought or dropped are type2 type7 or type8. This is the way it should have been from day 1, cos xp'ing for 170+hp items was retarded.

[EZ_Varaxael]

Stamina is going to be much more useful soon, since they're essentially planning to institute a system similar to Dark Ages' melee technique system in a melee revamp. So having the extra endurance from stamina even if you're not having to worry about your hitpoints might be important once they put that in.