Two Questions...easy...hard... I need opinions

[EZ_Spyrit123]

Alright, I'm the leader of a guild on the Saryrn Server, we(officers and I) have been looking at ldon loot tables, and the stuff is rival'ing elemental/ornate armor. I was wondering if anyone could give me any sort of insight as to whats needed to start the raid, (I have 19wins in guk, 19 wins in mm, and nowhere else have I dont ldon) My guild is on the level of killing yelinak, zlandicar, velketor, vindi, dain, xanamech, bot towers, itraer vius, greig (i guess you could call it " tier 1 ").


What theme... would be the best for a 20 - 40 person raid of 62+ decently equipped players (ornate/ss armor)?

and How hard do the mobs hit in a NORMAL raid. (if it gives you the selection of normal/hard)

Any and all opinions are helpful please give me some insight. Thanks.




Collective Assault - Saryrn

[EZ_Tikker]

raids are tuned for 36

they do not scale down


raids are fairly difficult with a somewhat steep learning curve

you'd be better off trying to progress your guild thru ssra, vt and pop Tier 1,2,3

[EZ_Derrict]

These raids provide a challenge for time equipped guilds, so they will most likely be absolute slaughter for your members if they are equipped in Velious type gear and ornate.

[EZ_Quiet]

To give a perspective - I am in a fairly good mid-guild. We went into LDON raid with 36 folks, average level 63 or so. Our equipment is transitioning to BOT Upper tower level from TOV-HOT level. (We suck at racing for mobs, shrug)

In our case, we entered got set up, and pulled two of the entrance trash. One was double/quad hitting for over 1K and wasn't slowed before he ate most of the raid. (The other one wasn't that bad - but was a pain.)

We decided to forget about LDON for a while in terms of raids.

[EZ_Korthuran]

Do NToV and start in on the easier ssra mobs, much less risk and still a good reward. anything that will force you to do offtanking and lots of crowd controll is a good thing as you will need it to progress any where into PoP, as for ldon, as stated above leave it be for now

[EZ_Brutall]

Free Advice:
Have all your people start camping shards and emp rings for vt right now. They will probably release a new expansion in less than 3 or 4 months which will make the emp easier and allow you access to faster gear upgrades in VT. If VT is crowded now its very likely that will change with the shuffle of a new expansion. I'd plan ahead as much as possible.

Ldon raids are quite different than normal raids. You need to be able to handle multiple 1.2k hitters for enterance level raids. Need to be able to kill mobs quickly(est 4kdps for 36 people) and recover from deaths while moving and killing mobs.

Yours
Brutall

[EZ_Shadowbladez]

NToV/Sraa/VT is what you should aim for (in order of difficulty btw) imo. Some of the lower sraa mob's are wuzzies tho, and much easier than some of the NToV dwagons, but you know what I mean.

You would get owned in a LDoN raid.

/Z

[EZ_Spyrit123]

k thx for the assistance hehe, i've done all content up to time but didn't know if we could handle a ldon raid and if we should be skipping some of the stuff were doing now (velk, dain, greig, itraer, etc..) and give it a shot.

[EZ_Zassk]

Do you have access to POTactics? The trash mobs in LDON normal raids are basically the same difficulty as the yellow/red con trash in the Zek wings of POTactics (Elite Diaku, etc). The LDON trash hit harder but less often, for a similar overall damage output, and have similar hp. The LDON minibosses hit for 2500 x 5, flurry/proc/etc. I have not had the pleasure of facing a boss yet.