What is the problem here?

[EZ_Zimgrog]

*edit* Meant for top posted subject

I have read thru your posts...gone to all the npcs....hailed them...recieved flags.....talked the the librarian....seems to me I have done everything but still not fully flagged. Yes I have killed every required mob. Here is the text I recieve when I talk to the seer. But I still dont have full access.

Thu Nov 27 23:41:52 2003] You say, 'Hail, Seer Mal Nae`Shi'
[Thu Nov 27 23:41:52 2003] Seer Mal Nae`Shi snaps from her meditation, 'Greetings traveler, I am Mal Nae`Shi. I have come here to heighten my awareness through meditation, much can be learned through a brief exploration of one's self... Assuming there is something there to learn. While reaching inner peace is a journey each spirit must undertake on its own, I can begin your voyage with [guided meditation] which will aid your memory, once you are seated. I can also [unlock] some [memories] which may previously been inaccessible.'
[Thu Nov 27 23:42:01 2003] Zimgrog tells the group, 'turn it on......talk to her...get her to say what ya get....turn it off'
[Thu Nov 27 23:42:05 2003] You say, 'guided meditation.'
[Thu Nov 27 23:42:06 2003] The History translated for you reveals the fate of Zebuxoruk. Trapped in the Plane of Time you must gain the power of the elements to gain entrance.
[Thu Nov 27 23:42:06 2003] Mithaniel has been bested. An aura surrounds the mystical symbols that have appeared on your arm.
[Thu Nov 27 23:42:06 2003] You have completed all of Honor's Trials.
[Thu Nov 27 23:42:06 2003] You have bested Aerin`Dar and proven yourself honorable enough to pass into Mithaniel's Halls.
[Thu Nov 27 23:42:06 2003] Mavuin is grateful to you for taking his case before the Tribunal. The information provided to you, that Mithaniel Marr and Karana carry information you should seek, could be quite useful.
[Thu Nov 27 23:42:06 2003] Saved from a world of eternal nightmares, Thelin is forever in your debt.
[Thu Nov 27 23:42:06 2003] Bertoxxulous has been slain, the curse from Milyk now lifted.
[Thu Nov 27 23:42:06 2003] Now that Grummus has been destroyed, the entrance to the Crypt of Bertoxxulous should open before your might.
[Thu Nov 27 23:42:06 2003] The pack of notes from Vallon are scribbled in a language that you cannot comprehend.
[Thu Nov 27 23:42:06 2003] The pack of notes from Tallon are scribbled in a language that you cannot comprehend.
[Thu Nov 27 23:42:14 2003] You say, 'unlock memories.'
[Thu Nov 27 23:42:14 2003] Besting the Burning Prince proves your might, but you still must prove your warrior's spirit.
[Thu Nov 27 23:42:14 2003] Your heart beat speeds as you recall the Warlord's flaming axe, behind the dark sockets of his helm you sense darker intentions.
[Thu Nov 27 23:42:14 2003] You attempt to recall your defeat of Saryrn, but whenever you try to focus you feel a searing pain on your arm.

Thank you Edited by: Zimgrog at: 11/28/03 4:39 am

[EZ_Shadowmare S]

think you need to do cage in Torment (prophet maraque).

[EZ_Bigmeeno]

Look at the one thread that is stickied to the top of this forum. It has all the phrases and what they mean listed at the top of it.

[EZ_Atlane]

Quote:
Bertoxxulous has been slain. The curse from Milyk has been lifted.
- Bertoxx killed and Planar Projection hailed, have not completed by hailing Alder and Elder.


Go to the sick bay, and hail those 2. Then do the unlock memories dance and that should finish Bert flag.

Quote:
You attempt to recall your defeat of Saryrn, but whenever you try to focus you feel a searing pain on your arm.
- Saryrn killed, Theres a problem with saryrn preflag, Terris Thule chain, or Bertox chain.


After you finish Bert flag, do the unlock memories dance again to resolve Saryn.

Go to the PoFire zone and talk to the guardian, should get the preflag (about the zone in being moved)

Then go to library, hail, what lore, etc... You have MM, Saryn, both Zeks, so that resolves your Sol Ro access.

After that, your Sol Ro and RZ kills should resolve, granting full elemental access.

[EZ_Evil Kaige]

From what I can tell in the guide...


Quote:[Thu Nov 27 23:42:06 2003] Bertoxxulous has been slain, the curse from Milyk now lifted.


- Bertoxx killed and Planar Projection hailed, have not completed by hailing Alder and Elder.


Quote:[Thu Nov 27 23:42:14 2003] You attempt to recall your defeat of Saryrn, but whenever you try to focus you feel a searing pain on your arm.


- Saryrn killed, Theres a problem with saryrn preflag, Terris Thule chain, or Bertox chain.

(this and the previous one might be linked)




Quote:[Thu Nov 27 23:42:06 2003] The pack of notes from Vallon are scribbled in a language that you cannot comprehend.
[Thu Nov 27 23:42:06 2003] The pack of notes from Tallon are scribbled in a language that you cannot comprehend.


This will probably change when you fix the above flag messages I quoted. The cypher flag that results translates these and you get the new one.


Quote:[Thu Nov 27 23:42:14 2003] Besting the Burning Prince proves your might, but you still must prove your warrior's spirit.

Going to make a guess on this one since I'm unsure, but did you do the Sol Ro trials?

[EZ_Acturian]

sol ro trials are only required to get into sol ro's chamber, not required as a planar line.

you're missing the tylis line. Missed Mareeq and Keeper of Sorrows, if I remember correctly.

Looks like you're also missing BoT key, and Agnarr kill too.

Additionally, I may be wrong, but I don't see reference to behemoth or rallos...?

edit: cause spelling is hard Edited by: Acturian at: 11/28/03 10:46 am

[EZ_Tanise Manasponge]

Quote:Besting the Burning Prince proves your might, but you still must prove your warrior's spirit.

Means he needs RZ. You don't need the mini's for progression simply for entrance into sol ro chamber, which you also need RZ for. He has RZ but it's in unlock so it's broken (prolly need to hail The gnome up the elevator).

Did you get Keeper or sorrows (name?) when you did sary? If not that's your problem. No KoS = no sary flag = no sol ro zone access = no sol ro kill flag.

Also don't see Aggy and you need aggy for Ele e,a,w.

If you have KoS, go to sick bay, hail Pox, the guy lying alone, and the one with the chick, say "I will go" to the chick.

[EZ_NightGod]

The History translated for you reveals the fate of Zebuxoruk. Trapped in the Plane of Time you must gain the power of the elements to gain entrance.


Shows he has all the flags he needs, he just hasn't unlocked everything properly. The sick room hails, drake outside Fire, lotsa unlocks and a few trips to the librarian ought to take care of him.

[EZ_Lindianae]

Missing keeper. Theres nothing there about tylis<sp> and thats needed to complete the saryrn line.

[EZ_Muji Valoran]

First you need to complete the bert flag by doing the post flags. Then you need to get the keeper preflag by saying "i will go to torment" to fahlia. Then you need to kill keeper and unlock saryrn flag after at the seer (its starting to get foggy, but 95% sure theres no post flag to keeper). Once you have MM and saryrn chain completed you then go see maelin and hail him and he will combine the 2 cyphers into one so you can read the zek notes. After that cypher flag you should be set to say phrass for to unlock sol ro zone acess.Then you go unlock RZ flag at the seer then once again back up to maelin to say the phrases again to unlock earth water and air.

Not exactly sure about exactly how fire works. Not sure if you even have to do the preflag to zone into fire though it does show you the mini's you have in sol ro if you have preflag. Dont recall needing to unlock sol ro flag through seer after rz flag unlocked. All I know for sure is you need the zek chain completed which is like everything before him (bert saryrn MM zek chains).

[EZ_Juujuu]

If you think you should be able to zone into Tower of Sol Ro, the Elemenal Planes of Air/Water/Earth, or the Plane of Fire, but you can't, try this:

First, make sure you have all of the following completed to enter Tower of Solusek Ro:
Grummus kill, Carpin Cycle (/key will show key to lower depths of lxanthom or something like that), Bertox kill
Hedge Trial, Terris Thule kill, Keeper of Sorrows kill, Saryrn kill
Manaetic Behemonth kill, Tallon Zek kill, Vallon Zek kill
Plane of Justice Trial (any), Aerin'Dar kill*, Dragon Trial, Princess Trial, Villagers Trial, Mithanial Marr kill
* you can skip AD kill and still get ele plane flagged, but you need to be raided into HohoB under 85% rule to do so. Just get AD flag anyway because being raided into HohoB is a pain.

To be able to enter the Planes of Earth/Air/Water you need all of the above flags, Askr the Lost's key quest into BoT, and Agnarr kill, as well as Rallos Zek kill.
To be able to enter the Plane of Fire, you need to have the 3 Ele Planes flag, and get Sol Ro kill.
To be able to enter Sol Ro's chamber, you need the 3 Ele Planes flag, plus all 5 minis in Sol Ro, though it's possible to skip the minis by being raided into Sol Ro's chamber under the 85% rule (get all 5 minis anyway because raiding people into Sol Ro's chamber is a pain)

So you have all the kills, and you still can't get in!
This is what you do to fix up your flags (get a Sow because you are going to be running around like a madman)

To fix up the Bertox series of flags:
1. Go to Adler Fuirstel outside of the PoD
2. Hail him
3. Say "what ward" to get a character flag
4. Go to the Seer in Pok and unlock memories
5. Go to Adler Fuirstel again
6. Hail him
7. Go to the sick room in potranq
8. Find Elder Fuirstel lying on the ground all alone in there
9. Hail him and get a character flag
10. Hit the Seer with an unlock memories
11. Find Elder Fuirstel again and hail him and get a character flag
12. If he says "welcome back friend.....blah blah blah" you have your full Bertox Flag

To fix up your Saryrn flag:
1. Find Adroha in the sick room in potranq sitting next to Elder Poxbourne
2. Hail her
3. Say "tortured by nightmares" and get a character flag
4. Hit the Seer and unlock memories
5. Find Elder Poxbourne and hail him to get a character flag
6. Find Fahlia in the sick room sitting next to another sick dude.
7. Hail her
8. Say "what plane of torment" and "i will go" to get a character flag
9. Hit the Seer and unlock memories
10. You should have full Saryrn flag now

To fix up your PoTactics flag:
1. You need someone to let you into the factory in PoI if you don't have the flag to open the door. (the flag comes from the dragon in zone. It's unnecessary for anything except opening the door for the entire raid in PoI)
2. Hail the gnome you see there and say "i will test the machine" to get a character flag
3. Hit the Seer and unlock memories to get access to Plane of Tactics

To properly get your PoJ trial flag:
1. Find Mavuin in PoJ
2. hail him
3. uh....read what he says and say the [bracketed] words to get a character flag
4. Head to the Tribunal in the middle east side of the Trial area
5. Hail him
6. say "i will plead mavuin's case" (SPELLING COUNTS. NO PARTIAL CREDIT FOR TYPING PART OF IT WRONG)
7. Head back down to Mavuin
8. Hail him and get a character flag

To get your preflag for the Plane of Fire:
1. go to the red drake outside of PoF
2. hail him
3. Follow his [bracketed] text until he gives you a character flag

To properly get your Tower of Sol Ro flag:
1. get all your above flags fixed up first
2. Get a levitate. If you don't, get a cleric to stand next to the bottom of the elevator in PoK because there's a good chance you will fall for 20000 points of damage.
3. Hit the seer and unlock memories
4. Go up the elevator in the library
5. Hail the Grand Librarian Maelin. say "what lore". say "i have new information"
6. Hit the seer and unlock memories
7. Go up the elevator in the library
8. Hail the Grand Librarian Maelin. say "what lore". say "i have new information"
9. Hit the seer and unlock memories
10. Go up the elevator in the library
11. Hail the Grand Librarian Maelin. say "what lore". say "i have new information"
12. I'm not exactly sure how many times you have to do this, but it's at least about 2 or 3 or 4 times.
13. You can stop this cycle of visiting the grand librarian when he says something about gathering some stuff from the elemental planes to power a machine to take you to the plane of time to rescue Zebuxoruk

[EZ_Necresaro]

To fix the searing pain on his arm thing all he needs to do is hail the people and get the pre flags in sick bay and unlock memories i had the same exact thing wrong with my flags.

[EZ_Ayngwysh666]

Mithaniel has been bested. An aura surrounds the mystical symbols that have appeared on your arm...

Mithaniel Marr and Karana carry information you should seek, could be quite useful

You are missing Karana... Mith marr and Karana show you how to read the mystic symbols and the cipher of druzzil.

WHich is what the symbols are...they xplain zebruk fate.

When you kill Agnarr ..go upstairs and find Karana ...say to Karana "i will follow the path of the fallen" for that flag.

Good luck.

Also follow the other posters ideas and rehail every damn Npc u possibly can especialy Fuiristell in sick bay...STAND RIGHT ON TOP OF HIM and hail him to get flag(finish Bert)....Hes laying down and cant properly see you hail unless u literaly sit on him.

You attempt to recall your defeat of Saryrn, but whenever you try to focus you feel a searing pain on your arm.

This is typical of someone who has not finished Bert and Terris flaggage.
The reason is you cannot even START saryn...I.E get the preflag from dialog to get quest to kill saryn and save the elder.So since you cant even get the saryn perflag before you kill bert and terris and get thier finish flags you get the searing arm message when u recall your battle with saryn...quest wise you werent told to kill saryn so u have no idea why your arm burns....understand?
Edited by: Ayngwysh666 at: 12/1/03 12:14 am

[EZ_Muji Valoran]

Looks like hes missing KoS and not karana to me.