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EZ_Dragoonkain Of Hayl
03-22-02, 12:19 PM
Does a CS spec of 50 with say +5 from items/realm rank add to the max PA dmg beyond what you get for 50?
Read somewhere that every point of CS adds 9pts to the max dmg of a hidden attack. You're at a certain point for training 50 in CS, does it go past that? Would I get the 45 extra max dmg points from the +5? Thanks..
Dragoonkain Blightslayer ~ 45 Paladin
Kithlanas ~ 30 Infiltrator
Iseult
EZ_Jammermon
03-22-02, 12:52 PM
Actually Mythic has proven that Some skills do add beyond 50.
The Critical Strike is one of 'em.
However as with creation remember the "Bell Curve" and the "Law of Declining Returns"
On Creation 1st 10 points in Dex gave you +10, next 10 only 5.
Under 50 each +point to CS averages +9 HP damage.
Over 50 each +point averages only +2 HP damage.
It appears that a much greater reward from bringing Weapon or Envenom or even DW up another point then going over 50. If you've developed a character perfectly all Prime skills would hit 50 before any hit 51.
This data is from a much longer post that was in the TL Boards and Mythic Herald.
Jammer of Hibernia Palomides
I'm pretty sure it's been demonstrated by posters here that there is no more +9 damage bonus for each point when you are above 50 in CS. Edit: I guess +2 hp is close enough to not doing anything. Edited by: Lisboa at: 3/22/02 3:10:29 pm
EZ_Brandyn Aquilius
03-24-02, 03:24 PM
Time out!
I thought that each point in CS raises your MAX DAMAGE by 9 points. That wouldn't be the same as average damage. If it's average, the CS points are more valuable than I thought. Aurra Sing - 40 Infiltrator
Dracos Divinus Lair
EZ_Valarauco
03-24-02, 07:14 PM
ubergnome has 50 natural CS and over 50 with bonuses, and says it still does the same for every point after 50
EZ_Sunthas Bayne
03-24-02, 09:58 PM
Nightowl (famous Relic stealing assassin) has confirmed that the pattern continues past 50.
+9 / spec level. No CAP!
Thats why lots of assassins take CS to 50.
Furthermore there is no evidence that suggests the average doesn't increase as well. I suspect the effect of CS on your average damage has nothing to do with Spec Level 50 and being above or below it. The higher you are the more damage you do. Sunthas Bayne
Firbolg Hero
Guild Leader - Dei Gratia
EZ_Sunthas Bayne
03-24-02, 10:10 PM
Doing some research, I forgot there aren't really any Critical Strike items out there so the whole arguement is currently Moot.
Most you could do is 51,52 as an average player. Sunthas Bayne
Firbolg Hero
Guild Leader - Dei Gratia
EZ_Aerendor Shadowbride
03-25-02, 01:49 AM
Damage cap increase after 50, i witnessed it removing my +3 CS jewel and also when i reached Realm rank 3
(Critical Strike 50+5 now)
EZ_Jammermon
03-25-02, 10:40 AM
I stand corrected the rise is +9 to MAX below or = 50.
So I guess with the spread of max damage it would average +4,+5.
And I'm sure it was a Mythic post itself that said the reward would dramatically decrease above 50.
Jammer
EZ_Dither DAoC
03-25-02, 01:47 PM
The mythic post said some skills work post 50, and some don't, and diminishing returns happen after 50 on most. they never listed any specifically.
skills useless after 50:
stealth
envenom
pacification
probably more in other realms, but those are 3 im sure of. as far as CS over 50, I've heard from several people that it gives +9 to cap just like every other point in CS. Dither Disgustipated
Kobold Shadowblade
Ragnarok, Palomides
EZ_Sunthas Bayne
03-25-02, 02:24 PM
I was checking in Hibernia, I couldn't find anyone with 50+ CS. No items.
EZ_Dither DAoC
03-25-02, 09:38 PM
None of the rogue epics give +cs in hibernia? I can muster up +4 in normal gear, and probably +7 if i wore old low lvl gear and were trying. this is midgard of course.
EZ_Sunthas Bayne
03-26-02, 04:34 PM
no items give +CS at all in Hibernia as far as I know. I thought I heard of one uber +3 item from Epic Zone or something but not a regular or easy to get quest weapon. Sunthas Bayne
Firbolg Hero
Guild Leader - Dei Gratia
EZ_Valarauco
03-27-02, 02:03 AM
Cath Gloves from cliff dwellers have +3 Critical Strike, but they're like level 35 armor.
EZ_Sunthas Bayne
03-27-02, 03:45 PM
Quote:
CS above lvl 50 does do something.
With RR and Items, my avg PA does 63 more damage.
That is just enough on some casters to one hit kill them.
Khaja
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Firbolg Hero
Guild Leader - Dei Gratia