View Full Version : Hello! Requesting general rogue advice
01-09-04, 09:02 PM
Hi, I'm new to everquest and a little confused. I recently aquired eq and a couple of its expansions from a friend who gave up the game(and unfourtunately left for europe last week) so i thought i would give it a whirl.
First of all, after doing some looking around i think rogue would fit me best, subsequently i found this site after a quick google search heh. I would have already dived right in, but the amount of options has hit me like a ton of bricks before ive even started
So here i am. couple of questions:
1) Theres like three dozen servers. im sure i dont want to do any of the specially marked player versus player ones, but whats the difference in all the other ones? which way are they organized by the population rank option? would higher population or lower be better for me starting out?
2) different races. what im looking for is making a rogue for the sake of being a rogue. like an outcast or drifter type. what race would play that role the best?
Thanks in advance. sorry if i posted this in the wrong place, or if im asking recycled questions, this is the only place ive looked besides the manual so far.
01-09-04, 11:40 PM
Well, personally I play on Vazaelle server, which is a very nice server. Lots of people here are nice and will reach out to help. I am a barbarian rogue personally, I picked this race because it had the best stats, but to play the best role as a rogue, i'd say probably dark elf...but being evil is harder as a newer player. Personally i don't like playing evil races, so most of my characters are good. I don't think higher or lower population would really affect the gameplay except for finding good guilds, which would be hard on a lowly populated server. Making a guild though, would be harder on a higher populated server. I wouldn't suggest worrying about guilds yet though, you need some time to explore the world and get familiar with things. If you come to Vazaelle just send me a /tell, i am usually on every day if i can be. Screen name is Gosta. Good luck Gosta Getcha
Level 55 Blackguard
01-10-04, 04:24 AM
On a high population server you will find it easier to find people to group with but you may have trouble finding anything to kill because everyone else has killed them On a high pop server the best places to hunt actually have waiting lists
On a low population server you will have trouble finding people to group with but there will be no competition for the mobs. This is good if you are soloing mobs that can be killed solo but bad if the only things worth killing are gathered together in groups so you need a group to be able to attack them.
A rogue is quite happy solo for the first 15 levels then starts to *need* a group (though he can still solo). At higher levels he really has to fight in groups to get anywhere.
I am on a very low pop server, usually 5-10 from the bottom, and sometimes it is nice to be able to hunt places that on other servers are too congested to even bother with. On the other hand at level 20 I often find myself looking longingly at a group of juicy dark blue mobs but unable to attack because there is nobody around to group with.
I would suggest you pick a server that is kind of mid-way. Also do a bit a research to be sure you are not picking a server that is designed for players on a different continent e.g. Venril Sathir and Antonius Bayle are based in Europe and may have higher lag for a US based player as well as having fewer players during US peak times.
01-10-04, 04:50 AM
I would highly suggest getting one of the Prima EQ strategy guides. I've heard many people say they have incorrect or outdated info, but it is handy to have on hand as a general guide. Due to the dynamic nature of EQ, it's very easy for one of these books to get outdated. However, even my Kunark version (the first expansion) still sits next to my desk. Some spells have changed levels, and there are a lot more of them now, but it's still a good list of most of the stuff. It also has sections on each class and race. As stuff has changed in-game over the years, the stuff in the guide isn't all 100% accurate still, but again, it gives you the basics of what each race/class has/needs/does. With a lot of searching, you could probably find all the same info online (and probably up to date too), but it's really nice to have at least a general reference right at your fingertips.
We don't have the exact formulas that Sony uses to calculate stuff. We can guess at them based on how changing stats affects the amount of damage you do and stuff, but we can't say that X amount more of stat A will give you Y amount more of stat B. For a while, STR was recommended because it gives you higher ATK and more damage output. DEX affects proc rates, and possibly some other rogue skills. AGI will help you avoid hits and get defensive skillups. STA has been the fad lately, as there's not a lot of highend STA gear, while it seems fairly easy to max the other ones with stat gear. In short, we don't know enough about the system to tell you exactly what to do. It seems like whenever someone figures out "the right way" to do it, they end up lacking in some other area. *shrug* Just can't win... =)
With points put in the proper places, there's not too much difference between the different races, especially when you figure in stat gear later in the game. Look at the racial abilities each one has too (Erudites are nearly blind, for example). In short, just pick whichever one you like the best. -------------------------
01-10-04, 04:51 AM
Isnt Stromm the Newbie server? That seems like a good place for a newbie to start playing EQ
As far as race: Every race will do equally well at being a rogue, so just pick whatever one has the right look for you. Really the biggest difference in game-play between the races will be which cities are you most welcome in, and where your low-level hunting grounds are.
Dove the Silent. Assassin of Clan Ta'Veren
01-10-04, 06:44 AM
01-10-04, 10:52 AM
Also bear in mind that Elves can see in the dark but humans and barbarians etc. need to carry lamps everywhere until they are high enough to but a more convenient way of getting light. On the other hand some PC Screens dont seem to care and you can see in the dark whatever race you are
01-10-04, 10:55 AM
Stromm is the newbie server and would be an excellent place to start. Once you are comfortable with the game, you might want to consider FV since it's a role playing server.
Veteran Lemac Dushae
Deceiver for <Gorilla Warfare>
01-11-04, 01:41 PM
first of all, your rogue can only be an oucast til about 20th, post 20 solo exp as a rogue is mind boglingly slow.
"AGI will help you avoid hits and get defensive skillups."
agi will not help you avoid hits.
agi is the single most useless stat in the game, and considering that they are all pretty weak that says alot.
get your agi to 75+ (easy for a rogue) and you will never have to worry about it. (under 75 is a pretty big ac hit)
01-18-04, 06:49 PM
just an update:
I was going to create on stromm server, but accidentally created on xev. think i forgot to click right on the name.
ya, rogue is definitely for me.
lvl 21 now, and doing ok. some people i was grouping with for a while gave me some free items(i guess it was embarrassing to group with someone who still wore cloth at level 15 ).
got a couple of cool daggers now too. i think its like 80 from my best backstab. rarr. rarr?
oh and, paludal caverns suck. except after 3:00AM, then they are pretty sweet