EZ_Restyn
06-20-02, 02:51 PM
I found a great post on here from several months back about how to raise your skill up to 250. It is here: pub175.ezboard.com/fthesa...2045.topic
However, that plan calls for you to have a good deal of cash, since most ingredients in it are store bought. I thought I would post an alternative, which I think works well for those of us who are financially challenged I tried to go with as many mob-dropped components as possible. Constructive comments and observations are very much welcomed! All the poisons/recipes I refer to can be found here at the Safehouse in the Tome of Mastery: Poisons, found here: pub138.ezboard.com/fthesa...2195.topic
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Before you begin, work on your pottery skill until it is up into the low 100s. It doesn’t cost too much and the money you will spend will save you tons in vials. Besides, you have 20 levels to work on it. I am sure there are guides to getting your pottery skill up there. Once you can, make all your own vials. Saves you tons of money. Also, get some CHA gear as well to reduce the cost of suspensions and to maximize your re-sale value. Generally 2 opal encrusted steins will do it.
20-24 You start with Make Poison (MP) at 20, so go right for Asp Poison (Contact I). The Asp Poison Sacs for this can be found on various snakes throughout the world. I hunted for mine in EC and NRo and Oasis. I also checked all the merchants in the EC, NRo, Freeport area. As you are hunting for snakes, kill all zombies and mummies that you can. Save all the embalming dust and zombie skins. Also, I killed all cats for puma skins. I was doing this at level 20 and getting experience every now and then, which was nice. This will take you all the way to MP of 24. WOO!
25-56 Head up to Lavastorm (north of Neriak newbie zone forest, which I can never remember the name of). Here you can kill Drakelings, easily, for their Putrid Bile as well as Basilisks for Basilisk Eyestalks. The Basilisks were giving me experience at this time. The ingredients don’t fall like rain, but you can get a good amount of them with relative ease. Start by making Basilisk Poison (Muscle Lock I) with the Eyestalks. This will take you up to MP of 34. Then switch to Putrid Bane (Injected I) with the Bile until you are MP of 56. Optional: kill the Imps and try to get Ashroot. I found this difficult and the mobs didn’t drop it too often, but you could do this now as well.
57-77 Back to Nro and Oasis of Marr. Continue slaughtering zombies and mummies. They will drop embalming dust and zombie skins. Again, check the merchants. Most players will simply sell this stuff off. I once found 2.5 stacks of embalming dust on a merchant (of course, it's cheaper just to kill a mob for it ). You could try to auction for it as well. Regardless, start making Lyxt Wing Dust (Liq Silver I). This will take you up to MP of 77.
78-108 At this point, if you have some Ashroot, you can make Festering Nettle (Low Resist I) up to MP of somewhere in the 90s I believe. However, easier way I think, is to head to Beholder’s Eye and start slaughtering Muddites. Again, in your low 20s you can get xp here, and the ingredients come fairly regularly. I think they are stackable too, can’t remember right now. Anyway, get as much Muddite Mud as you can and then grab some plat (yup) and head to WK to see Toxfodder (-3000, -13400). Now get comfy. Begin by buying Alocasia Root and making Atrophic Sap (Weaken II) until you are at MP of 98. Then start buying Coyotetail and, with the Muddite Mud, make Eyeburn Solution (Blind II) until MP of 108. If you run out of Mud, you can also buy Lactera and make Aching Blood (Contact II) up to 108. Keep in mind to sell back everything you make to not only keep room in your inventory, but minimize the costs involved. I went from my 60s to 98 with only spending about 120pp.
109-130/140 Now, if you’re rich, run to Halas and buy Gelsemium Root and make Brain Freeze (System Shock II) and Gelsemium Petals and make Powdered Balanity (Feeble Mind II) up until MP of 140. If you're brave go to Unrest and get Grave Mold and Darkbone Marrow (and more zombie skins) and make Leprous Puss [awesome name!] (Flesh Rot II) up until MP of ~130, and then head to Everfrost. Or if you're poor, like I was, you can just go right to Everfrost for the next step.
130/140-160 In Everfrost, start slaughtering orcs. They will drop Lixt Wing Stalks which you can use to make Languid Lixtwing (Dizzy II) up to MP of ~163. Even though this trivials at ~163, you can work on it, and get skill ups, with a Make Poison skill in the low-100s. Also, there are plenty of pelts around to help make those vials. Only downside is the occasional run to WK to get suspensions, since they aren't sold in Halas. Remember to check the vendors if you have spare cash. Those stalks tend to get sold to vendors A LOT!
160-180 So now you’re at ~163. Again, one of two ways to continue. Either run back to Lavastorm, slaughter goblins for their Soot Hemlock and use that to make Dilapidating Ash (Low Resist II) up to MP ~180. Or, again if you are rich, run to OT and slaughter Succulents for their Succulent Sap. Then run to LoIO and buy Crystal Nightshade and make Zek Frost (Berserker Mad II) until you are ~180.
180-204 Head up to Field of Bones in Kunark and lay waste to the scorpions. Easy killing. Collect Heartstring Venom Sacs and make Stiffening Ergot (Paralyze III) until you are MP of 204.
205+ I am told that skill ups in this range are few and far between and as such, many rogues simply use their practice points to get up to 250. This can be done at a trainer in High Keep named Stanos. But it will definitely cost you. Many other rogues continue to make poisons. If you go to Fironia Vie, you can buy Creeper Ivy and make Spirit of Sloth (Muscle Lock IV). This has a trivial of over 250. I have also heard that it is possible to make money on Spirit of Sloth (depending on your faction, CHA, etc.) once you clear the 230 range.
And there you go. Also, some things to keep in mind along the way:
1. Make your own vials whenever you can to reduce cost. Also, check the bazaar for potters selling cheap vials that they used for skilling up. I’ve often seen potters selling sealed poison vials at cost.
2. DO NOT apply the poison you make unless you want to use it in the field. There appears to be level limits to the types of poisons you can apply. I'm still looking in to it, but I know it is possible to make a poison you cannot use (it will still poof when you try to apply though), so be careful when experimenting.
3. Sell back what you make. You won't make money until a very high skill, but you can still greatly reduce your costs along the way. Crank your CHA over 130. The re-sale on poisons is really not too bad.
3. It is debated as to whether DEX is the primary stat for skilling up (I think it is like smithing, either INT or WIS or DEX, whichever is higher). All I can say is that I had both DEX and INT cranked up and I got good skill ups. Regardless which one you choose, get a good high number in it when you are combining.
4. Feel free to use practice points along the way to supplement this plan. I used mine in spurts to help things along, and plan on saving up and using them for a good chunk of the last 50.
5. It appears that your Make Poison skill is capped by your level. Simple, (level+1)*5 sort of thing up until level 39 (MP of 200). Then at 51 you are capped at 205, 210 at 52, etc. So, don’t think you’re going GrandMaster at level 20
Enjoy!
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And now my guide to raising your Apply Poison skill to 250:
1. Get a whole bunch of Snake, Spider and Asp venom.
2. Apply to weapon.
3. Repeat until 250.
Seriously, you get skill ups in Apply Poison regardless of the type of poison, so use something that is cheap! I would assume this is capped by level as well, although I do not know for certain.
Happy poisoning!
Thanks: Kiki’s Poisonous pages and The Safehouse poison FAQ.
Restyn
Rogue of Saryrn Server
Half elf ... all rogueEdited by: Restyn at: 9/16/02 2:42:13 pm
However, that plan calls for you to have a good deal of cash, since most ingredients in it are store bought. I thought I would post an alternative, which I think works well for those of us who are financially challenged I tried to go with as many mob-dropped components as possible. Constructive comments and observations are very much welcomed! All the poisons/recipes I refer to can be found here at the Safehouse in the Tome of Mastery: Poisons, found here: pub138.ezboard.com/fthesa...2195.topic
****************
Before you begin, work on your pottery skill until it is up into the low 100s. It doesn’t cost too much and the money you will spend will save you tons in vials. Besides, you have 20 levels to work on it. I am sure there are guides to getting your pottery skill up there. Once you can, make all your own vials. Saves you tons of money. Also, get some CHA gear as well to reduce the cost of suspensions and to maximize your re-sale value. Generally 2 opal encrusted steins will do it.
20-24 You start with Make Poison (MP) at 20, so go right for Asp Poison (Contact I). The Asp Poison Sacs for this can be found on various snakes throughout the world. I hunted for mine in EC and NRo and Oasis. I also checked all the merchants in the EC, NRo, Freeport area. As you are hunting for snakes, kill all zombies and mummies that you can. Save all the embalming dust and zombie skins. Also, I killed all cats for puma skins. I was doing this at level 20 and getting experience every now and then, which was nice. This will take you all the way to MP of 24. WOO!
25-56 Head up to Lavastorm (north of Neriak newbie zone forest, which I can never remember the name of). Here you can kill Drakelings, easily, for their Putrid Bile as well as Basilisks for Basilisk Eyestalks. The Basilisks were giving me experience at this time. The ingredients don’t fall like rain, but you can get a good amount of them with relative ease. Start by making Basilisk Poison (Muscle Lock I) with the Eyestalks. This will take you up to MP of 34. Then switch to Putrid Bane (Injected I) with the Bile until you are MP of 56. Optional: kill the Imps and try to get Ashroot. I found this difficult and the mobs didn’t drop it too often, but you could do this now as well.
57-77 Back to Nro and Oasis of Marr. Continue slaughtering zombies and mummies. They will drop embalming dust and zombie skins. Again, check the merchants. Most players will simply sell this stuff off. I once found 2.5 stacks of embalming dust on a merchant (of course, it's cheaper just to kill a mob for it ). You could try to auction for it as well. Regardless, start making Lyxt Wing Dust (Liq Silver I). This will take you up to MP of 77.
78-108 At this point, if you have some Ashroot, you can make Festering Nettle (Low Resist I) up to MP of somewhere in the 90s I believe. However, easier way I think, is to head to Beholder’s Eye and start slaughtering Muddites. Again, in your low 20s you can get xp here, and the ingredients come fairly regularly. I think they are stackable too, can’t remember right now. Anyway, get as much Muddite Mud as you can and then grab some plat (yup) and head to WK to see Toxfodder (-3000, -13400). Now get comfy. Begin by buying Alocasia Root and making Atrophic Sap (Weaken II) until you are at MP of 98. Then start buying Coyotetail and, with the Muddite Mud, make Eyeburn Solution (Blind II) until MP of 108. If you run out of Mud, you can also buy Lactera and make Aching Blood (Contact II) up to 108. Keep in mind to sell back everything you make to not only keep room in your inventory, but minimize the costs involved. I went from my 60s to 98 with only spending about 120pp.
109-130/140 Now, if you’re rich, run to Halas and buy Gelsemium Root and make Brain Freeze (System Shock II) and Gelsemium Petals and make Powdered Balanity (Feeble Mind II) up until MP of 140. If you're brave go to Unrest and get Grave Mold and Darkbone Marrow (and more zombie skins) and make Leprous Puss [awesome name!] (Flesh Rot II) up until MP of ~130, and then head to Everfrost. Or if you're poor, like I was, you can just go right to Everfrost for the next step.
130/140-160 In Everfrost, start slaughtering orcs. They will drop Lixt Wing Stalks which you can use to make Languid Lixtwing (Dizzy II) up to MP of ~163. Even though this trivials at ~163, you can work on it, and get skill ups, with a Make Poison skill in the low-100s. Also, there are plenty of pelts around to help make those vials. Only downside is the occasional run to WK to get suspensions, since they aren't sold in Halas. Remember to check the vendors if you have spare cash. Those stalks tend to get sold to vendors A LOT!
160-180 So now you’re at ~163. Again, one of two ways to continue. Either run back to Lavastorm, slaughter goblins for their Soot Hemlock and use that to make Dilapidating Ash (Low Resist II) up to MP ~180. Or, again if you are rich, run to OT and slaughter Succulents for their Succulent Sap. Then run to LoIO and buy Crystal Nightshade and make Zek Frost (Berserker Mad II) until you are ~180.
180-204 Head up to Field of Bones in Kunark and lay waste to the scorpions. Easy killing. Collect Heartstring Venom Sacs and make Stiffening Ergot (Paralyze III) until you are MP of 204.
205+ I am told that skill ups in this range are few and far between and as such, many rogues simply use their practice points to get up to 250. This can be done at a trainer in High Keep named Stanos. But it will definitely cost you. Many other rogues continue to make poisons. If you go to Fironia Vie, you can buy Creeper Ivy and make Spirit of Sloth (Muscle Lock IV). This has a trivial of over 250. I have also heard that it is possible to make money on Spirit of Sloth (depending on your faction, CHA, etc.) once you clear the 230 range.
And there you go. Also, some things to keep in mind along the way:
1. Make your own vials whenever you can to reduce cost. Also, check the bazaar for potters selling cheap vials that they used for skilling up. I’ve often seen potters selling sealed poison vials at cost.
2. DO NOT apply the poison you make unless you want to use it in the field. There appears to be level limits to the types of poisons you can apply. I'm still looking in to it, but I know it is possible to make a poison you cannot use (it will still poof when you try to apply though), so be careful when experimenting.
3. Sell back what you make. You won't make money until a very high skill, but you can still greatly reduce your costs along the way. Crank your CHA over 130. The re-sale on poisons is really not too bad.
3. It is debated as to whether DEX is the primary stat for skilling up (I think it is like smithing, either INT or WIS or DEX, whichever is higher). All I can say is that I had both DEX and INT cranked up and I got good skill ups. Regardless which one you choose, get a good high number in it when you are combining.
4. Feel free to use practice points along the way to supplement this plan. I used mine in spurts to help things along, and plan on saving up and using them for a good chunk of the last 50.
5. It appears that your Make Poison skill is capped by your level. Simple, (level+1)*5 sort of thing up until level 39 (MP of 200). Then at 51 you are capped at 205, 210 at 52, etc. So, don’t think you’re going GrandMaster at level 20
Enjoy!
*****************************
And now my guide to raising your Apply Poison skill to 250:
1. Get a whole bunch of Snake, Spider and Asp venom.
2. Apply to weapon.
3. Repeat until 250.
Seriously, you get skill ups in Apply Poison regardless of the type of poison, so use something that is cheap! I would assume this is capped by level as well, although I do not know for certain.
Happy poisoning!
Thanks: Kiki’s Poisonous pages and The Safehouse poison FAQ.
Restyn
Rogue of Saryrn Server
Half elf ... all rogueEdited by: Restyn at: 9/16/02 2:42:13 pm