View Full Version : GM Assassin's Seal = Lightsource. Anyone else upset?
10-29-02, 12:07 AM
I just finished my quest for the Grandmaster Assassin's Seal. Finally, I can make multi-dose poisons. Yay!
However, I'm very displeased that this item is a light source. Yeah, the particle effect is nice. But the fact of the matter is that lightsources create a halo of light around you, whether you're hidden or not, thus revealing your location. It bothers me from a roleplay point of view, as well as from a practical one. It would *really* bother me if I were on a PvP server.
I've been keeping my GM Vial in my ranged slot most of the time lately, for the stats. If I don't need throwing/archery, and don't need the slot for resists, the strength and dex are nice to have in combat. And I've enjoyed the freedom of not having to swap in gear for charisma any more, every time I deal with a merchant.
I really don't want to have to remake my GMAV and bank my Seal. I like having it as a mark of my accomplishment, as well as for the stat benefits. But for me, the lightsource effect is too big of a sacrifice; I won't keep it equipped except when I need it, while the lightsource remains.
Is anyone else bothered by this? If so, please speak up. Perhaps the people at Verant will be willing to change it, if enough people feel the same as I. After all, Verant listened when we asked to have the lightsource effect removed from the Burning Rapier, a long long time ago. Bayler - 59th rank Swashbuckler - Xev
Tessally - 51st flicker Nun of Solusek Ro - Xev
10-29-02, 12:11 AM
Yes, I can actually see where I am going at night.
THANKS A LOT VERANT!@$%! >8(((
I want it to make make my character Translucent...
10-29-02, 12:36 AM
I Like the light source.. i mean why would i actually wanna see where im going?.. but i dont think your gonna win your whine fest here and turn this into the Burning rapier round 2..
10-29-02, 12:41 AM
No way I want the lightsource to be removed.
It's SOO nice to finally have a real lightsource that actually lights up the surroundings.
If you don't want it, you can always unequip it.
The lightsource is extremly handy. Veteran ShadowCross Bladesong
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10-29-02, 05:03 AM
hehehh How did I know someone would complain about it. I like the light source, and I don't even need it. The sparkle is kinda neat too.
10-29-02, 06:43 AM
Seriously, I can see where in PvP and in RP this would be a bad thing. I know when I was tracking Shardwurm Biles in GD, I would just log in at night and see the moving glow across the zone to chase down my prey.
It would be nice it to all others all our light emitting gear extinguished to others when we hide. Patofnaud (raid gear)
57th Season Redeemed Epic Shadow Dweller and Blackguard - Karma Guild - Morell-Thule
Warden of something or other.
(We work in shadows, we dress in black.)
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10-29-02, 06:54 AM
Quote:I want it to make make my character Translucent...
So do I!!!! I want to look like a Crystal Gargoyle. Been thinking that there should be a rogue armor or item that does that for years. Would have been neat if other players see us that way when we use our new Uber Planes of Power super hide. (or dont see us at all! :-) )
Orlun, 59th Rogue (GMAS) Xev <a href="http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=359886">Orlun's Gear</a>
10-29-02, 08:11 AM
Oh lord, I am thinking Predator
How RP is that, that when we hide all that happens is we get go from Patofnaud to (Patofnaud)?
I'd rather have folks go "WTF WAS THAT! I JUST SAW SOMETHING OUT THERE! IN THE BUSHES!"
10-29-02, 09:29 AM
Yeah, then two seconds later one member of the party unloads 1000+ rounds of chaingun ammo into you, destroying the trees, bushes, ground until there is nothing left, then letting the barrel spin for an additional 20 seconds.
Holy crap that would be cool. -- Squink McPoke, 61 Assassin, Lanys T'vyl. Hat.
-- <The Halfling Inquisition>
10-29-02, 10:10 AM
*cough* anyway, translucency would be cool, and while we're dreaming, I want a race car :)
[60 Assassin] Senn (Wood Elf) <Shadow Council>
10-29-02, 10:38 AM
This light source is gonna be very handy in PoN and also when exploring new places with Shroud of Stealth. I think they put alot of htought into giving us that lightsource for a reason.
10-29-02, 10:46 AM
I used a GLS until about 2 months ago. I would have welcomed any alternatives to taking un an inventory slot. Its not like light sources seen from far away are that reliable anyways. They seem to stick like epic particle effects sometimes can. Raymn Noodlez
Assassin of Stasis
10-29-02, 10:58 AM
Hehe. Sounds like I'm alone on this one. Very well. Thanks for talking it over. Bayler - 59th rank Swashbuckler - Xev
Tessally - 51st flicker Nun of Solusek Ro - Xev
10-29-02, 11:04 AM
Bayler did you not read the entire post and see me agree with you?
Also for a lightsource, I wear a froggy crown and cast ultravision on self from Myrlokars Helm. Most places are very bright to me, and even PoN with full clip out I can see to the horizon.
10-29-02, 01:42 PM
It is indeed a fabulous lightsource.
And it doesn't bother my that it is one from a roleplaying standpoind because, unlike the burning rapier, I can keep it in a bag if I feel like being all "dark and shadowy".
Though to be fair, I always thought light sources you carry should go out when you are invisable or hidden. Edited by: Ravenwinged Angel at: 10/29/02 3:46:25 pm
The GMSeal isn't a lightsorce, its a miniature sun...
I've never seen another item with this many candlewatts.
And I actually used it during the nightcycle in PoDisease. Sure I've got heat vision, but the dirty orange color of that plane (or part of it) almost nulifies that.
Ninen of Saryrn
The War Council "If God were omnipotent and omniscient in any literal sense, he wouldn't have bothered to make the universe at all. There is no success where there is no possibility of failure, no art without the resistance of the medium. Is it blasphemy to suggest that God has his bad days when nothing goes right, and that God's days are very, very long?" - Playback - Raymond Chandler
10-29-02, 11:08 PM
The Froggy crown is a very nice light source too for those who don't have this and want a bright light.
10-30-02, 10:07 AM
Why do I find myself saying...
"BRIGHT LIGHT ! BRIGHT LIGHT !"
10-30-02, 11:16 AM
Quote:even PoN with full clip out I can see to the horizon.
Even though I use a Geforce 3 for some reason gamma doesnt do anything for me so I cant see in PoN at all. Thats why I said I love it for PoN
10-30-02, 02:49 PM
I like the fact that it's a light source and im looking forward to getting one. But if you want to be role-playish, then it's a simple matter of unequipping the item, then role play away. Elendur Extraordinaire
10-30-02, 06:36 PM
Quote:The GMSeal isn't a lightsorce, its a miniature sun...
That healthy green glow has been brought to you by the Power of the Atomô
10-30-02, 07:36 PM
Am I the only one who noticed that the assassin's vial was a lightsource of the same magnitude even before you got the seal? :) <BR><BR><a href = "http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=202715">Profile</a>
10-31-02, 01:36 AM
Woot, gotta get one. I love carrying a lightsource, and been keeping my froggy crown for that reason as main head gear. Now i can consider upgrading that. Does lightsorce work from ammo slot? Ishwar - level 55 Barbarian Rogue - Wind of Tranquility - AB server
10-31-02, 05:52 AM
Yes, lightsource does work from Ammo slot - just stats don't. I keep the Seal in my ammoslot for just that reason - light.
10-31-02, 04:14 PM
I notice my Regal Band of Bathzid (chardok 2nd ring) has about the same or better light output as a GLS.. when I eqquiped my GMASeal omg I could see the light shining on building walls 200 feet away! I don't play on a pvp server but I am glad to have something so bright to use at my discretion.
I actually still keep Idol of the Thorned in my range slot for the stamina so I only glow like a halogen when I have my Seal equipped in hand for the graphic.
Marauder Thurgle Tinglespine, Quellious
*Happy Spinetinglin' & May all yer spawn be Kwik!*
Good to see you old friend. Still love yr old poison page you made long ago when you led our great Rogue only Guild, the Shadowed ones.
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P.S. I love light sources, heh, will get my Vial as soon as I can, am much lower in plat, but slowly but surely growing in poison making skill.
11-04-02, 04:05 AM
No way, leave the lightsource alone. I can finally see when I zone into echo without remembering to use my mrylo helm. Us barbies, and I imagine the humans too, can use the light source. <b>Hey baby, what's your sign? *bow chicka bow wow*</b>
11-04-02, 04:23 AM
Lightsource or not, who cares if it is or not if you not playing on a pvp server.
what sucks bad ass withe it and mutch othere stuff withe posion is that sudenly we nead to get the old sucky @#%$ from PoH PoF BR quest, like most of us dident clear out the bank a couple of times since we used them.
Will be a real blast going to the planes and farming this @#%$ when plane "proabebly" now is lightblou to green for 65s.
EZ_Hanuman The Ranger
11-04-02, 09:12 AM
I did some tests, and I didnt notice the light source being visible from my 2nd comp. I tried equipping and unequipping on my main computer, had the light go from day to night, but on my 2nd box could see no difference.
Maybe its just my weak 2nd box, but could this be a self only lightsource? Carat 61st Assasin
Akeema 56th Monk
Feilgud 55th Cleric
Hanuman 52nd Ranger
11-04-02, 09:13 AM
Does your 2nd box have dynamic lighting turned off?