I was thinking.. (Anime-related)

[Stalk]

Since there is a large amount of interest in Anime it seems, and many are interested in faster methods of getting Anime. I thought of doing something somewhat old-school. Back in the day (for those who don't know this and are new to Anime) people would mail each other VHS fansubbed tapes of anime since it was too hard to do it over the internet.

But now with the existence of 4.7gb dvd's, how about we set something up, I don't know how, to mail each other DVD's. It can be done in a give and take sort of thing, for example:

I have the full season of Onegai Twins and Scrapped Princess.

Notwen has the full season of Naruto.

Both fit on one dvd, so we mail them to each other. And if the person doesn't have a DVD writer, they can pay cost. 1.00 for the DVD, 50 cents for the case, and mail cost.

It's cheap and effecient way of transfering large amounts of data. I would be happy to do this if I was told the best way of mailing DVD's. It takes me only 20 minutes to do it. We could pay by paypal or mail a check or something.

How much would an envlope and postage cost? I've never actually mailed something other than a letter so I don't know how it works. I think it's a good idea and something we should somehow keep within the safehouse. Personally I wouldn't waste time making a DVD for someone I don't recognize as a safehouse member but I'd gladly make them for those I do know.

I will start by listing what anime I have. Unlicensed anime only please.

1) Great Teacher Onizuka Live Action (1-12 Special / Movie) (5.45 GB) (COMPLETE)
2) Prince of Tennis (1-102 Special) (16.6 GB)
3) Slam Dunk! (1-70) (9.42 GB)
4) Yami to Boushi to Hon no Tabibito (1-13) (2.14 GB) (COMPLETE)
5) Shingesutan Tsukihime (1-12) (1.35 GB) (COMPLETE)
6) Scrapped Princess (1-24) (3.88 GB) (COMPLETE)
7) Popotan (1-12) (2.05 GB) (COMPLETE)
8) Naruto (1-68) (11.3 GB)
9) One Piece (1-81 Dance Carnival / Movie 1+2 / TV Special) (16.5 GB)
10) Onegai Twins (1-12) (1.78 GB) (COMPLETE)
11) Kimi ga Nozomu Ein (1-14) (2.57 GB) (COMPLETE)
12) Hikaru no Go (1-76, specials, 2004 NY special) (14.18 GB) (COMPLETE)
13) Boogiepop Phantom and Others Movie (1) (1.17 GB) (COMPLETE)
14) Orochiban Ebichu (1-16) (1.26 GB) (COMPLETE)
15) Condor Hero (1-18) (2.94 GB)
16) Ayatsuri Sakon (1-6) (0.99 GB)
17) Daphne in the Brillant Blue (1-3) (0.53 GB)
18) Diamond Dust Drops (1-3) (0.54 GB)
19) Fullmetal Alchemist (1-17) (2.88 GB)
20) Gilgamesh (1-17) (2.73 GB)
21) Gunslinger Girl (1-10) (1.62 GB)
22) Kanon (1-13) (2.78 GB) COMPLETE
23) Kindaichi Shounen no Jikenbo (1-3) (0.42 GB)
24) Kousetsu Hyaku Monogatari (1-12) (2.17 GB)
25) Maburaho (1-13) (2.12 GB)
26) Maria-sama ga Miteru (1-4) (0.7 GB)
27) Mezzo DSA (1-4) (0.68 GB)
28) Miyuki (1-8) (1.2 GB)
29) Mujin Wakusei Survive (1-13) (2.39 GB)
30) Narutaru (1-13) (2.25 GB)
31) Peace Maker Kurogane (1-17) (3.05 GB)
32) PLANETES (1-12) (2.67 GB)
33) PopoloCrois (1-4) (0.86 GB)
34) Princess Tutu ...
35) Saigakue!! Cromartie High (1-12) (1.06 GB)
36) Yawara ...
37) Yumeria (1-4) (0.76)

These are the unlicensed anime I have. (all) means I have everything that's currently availble via fansubs.

I'd like to see how it turns out and if it works. *nudge nudge anime forum nudge nudge* Edited by: Stalkyr Weaksoul at: 2/5/04 6:19 pm

[shehab aldean]

you should list episodes , better than your all

its a nice idea , if i could upload like a normal internet user ( thanks ISP firewall ) i would have listed all of what i have
( licened or not :P )

[EZ_Gyorg]

Holy crap. How much for it all? Oh, and Naruto is 20CD's or 3 DVD's.

I only have naruto downloaded unfortunately. The rest of my anime is licensed and bought. I'd buy those one you have though. And I'm hoping to pick up a DVD writer here soon, (I need to make a hard backup of my documents directory and it's ringing in at around 5GB).

[deuce]

Quote:Stalkyrs japanese cartoons list

You need to add a 25cent @##$% my bandwith over fee per copy to recoup my costs. Thank you.

[Stalk]

Hmm, I probably should list the episodes too. And the amount of data total. I'll do episodes first, and the data later.

Ignore deuce. He is a insignificant whelp.

[EZ_Loxmyf]

What you propose breaks copyright anyway, why not come into the 21st century?

www.streamload.com

Sign up. Upload, share, download. Easier to cater for the non-USA guys.
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[Stalk]

Whew, that was tough work. Updated with size + episode/movie/special list. Looks ugly now though but pfft.

The problem with with streamload is that the people who do this are the people who DONT want to download.

Gyorg the cost is:

1) 1.00 per DVD
2) (?) Mailing Cost
3) (?) Protective case (optional... but I would think it'd be a good idea to protect them somehow during shipment.)

4.5 GB each DVD. Average episode is 175 MB, but it varies greatly. When you figure out about how much you would pay, send the money and I get the stuff + burn them and mail them. This step is why I am recommending doing this to only trustworthy people, but it is cheap enough that even if someone ripped you off, you wouldn't lose much + person wouldn't gain much so not worth the effort.

Or, the person could give you his address, and you order the stuff via newegg, and instead of mailing to yourself, mail to the person, and send shipping cost somehow. Many ways to do this. Just throwing ideas out there. Edited by: Stalkyr Weaksoul at: 2/5/04 6:30 pm

[notwen]

That's an awesome idea Stalkyr. You get one hell of a +1 from me. Sometimes I miss those days of tape trading.

[deuce]

Quote:Sign up. Upload, share, download. Easier to cater for the non-USA guys.

Yeah but it steels my bandwith for dumb cartoons bad idea

[DarthEnderX]

Quote:steals my bandwith for dumb cartoons

I didn't see any mention of Scooby Doo.

[notwen]

rofl, didn't see this until this morning...

Quote:
What you propose breaks copyright anyway, why not come into the 21st century?

www.streamload.com


Umm... yeah, there are already ten million and one ways to download fansubs over the internet, all of which have been discussed ad nauseum in this forum, and others at the Safehouse. For some people that just doesn't work out, for one reason or another. Witness Gyorg's 200+hour One Piece downloads. :P This is an old-school style alternative.

[Bladesake]

<-------- downloaded every One Piece episode... Ooohh.. so shiney!
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[EZ_Itzena]

I think the point is that some of those listed (Scrapped Princess, Princess Tutu (I think), and others) are actually licensed for release in the US. Itzena Alhazared
Ronin revenant of Vallon Zek.

[EZ_Thorgryn]

I just checked my information and can find nothing about scrapped princess or princess tutu being licensed, places I checked were :
www.animeondvd.com/licenselist/ and animesuki.com/doc.php/licensed/list.html

(I get my anime from animesuki, since they are really good about pulling anime once its been licensed) course hard drive space is quite limited here so once I watch something it usually gets cleared out

[notwen]

Scrapped Princess and Princess Tutu have been rumored to be licensed, but no company has said they have it, and the Japanese licensors have made no announcement of their licensing.

The one thing that came out regarding Scrapped Princess is that Anime Nation, in discussing the types of shows they were pursuing, said they had tried to get Scrapped Princess, but it was taken.

We've seen all too many times recently (Hikaru no Go ESPECIALLY) where licensing of the anime was taken as fact based on unofficial statements like that, which later turned out to be false. No one is going to recognize a show as being licensed without the company that has it coming out and saying "We have Scrapped Princess", for example.

[freonsmurf]

Safehouse File Sharing Network! __________
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[Lenilya]

<-- Still downloading the first ten episodes of One Piece via Bittorrent after like 3 weeks, up to 67% now!

Damn I wish I had a steady connection

[EZ_Urusai]

Id be intrested in a few of those. Dont really care for Bittorrent though so Id be up for the 'old school' method.

Just let me know how you want to do it.

As far as what I have.. I tend to just buy it all. Keeps the companies doing it in business I figured. Longer they are in business the more that can come to my house. Tenchi Muyo GXP is one I keep looking for the rest of but I found out awhile back that they are actually producing it now so Ive got the first two on order. (Have the first 4 episodes and thats it. )
Not slamming anyone for D/L the stuff. Its just that I can afford it so I buy it instead, not everyone can afford to spend around 12k a year on anime.

[Stalk]

To be honest, I'm not really going to get things going until I see more than just me interested in sharing their anime. It's somewhat ruins the point if I'm the only one distributing.

So I'll just wait and see if others deciede to distribute theirs also

[TeanninBramblefeet]

Is there anything else that's left unlicensed that you don't already have Stalk? I mean, that's a pretty big list there, and the more you have, the less other people could contribute. If things worked kinda like a network of sharing, this could be a pretty cool thing. i.e., you send One Piece to person A who doesn't have really any anime collection so far due to slow internet, but they have a burner and that's good enough! Person A then makes copies and sends to persons B, C, and D, who requested the series on, let's just say a seperate thread or board or something, and you passed them along to Person A, who offered to take over a bit of the load for the one series he now has. He receives other series' from Persons B, C, and D, and the network of anime continues to grow!

*cough* Of course, that could very well just be the delusions of someone who's had 4 hours of sleep in the last 32 hours... woo!

EDIT -- Of course, if you wanted to have an already established network of such a thing immediately available, you could replace the word "Anime" with the word "Porn," and I'm sure that the whole idea would be a big hit around here Edited by: Teannin Bramblefeet at: 2/6/04 7:35 pm

[deuce]

stalkyr can dl as much porn as he wants as long as he shares it, but the cartoons are where i draw the line!

[EZ_Thorgryn]

Stalkyr looking at your list, I think you have everything that is currently even semi popular and on fansub, I wish I had the hd space to be able to store stuff so for me its watch/delete to get more space for more stuff.

Btw to the rest of the people...
If you liked the Kenshin anime, you probably would love Peace Maker Kurogane, its set in the same time period as Kenshin as well as has many of the same characters, just from a different viewpoint, the Shinsengumi side basically, and the author has tried to be pretty historically accurate, which means Okita is going to DIE... nooo.

[Stalk]

Well you guys do have a point. Sometime this weekend I will find out how much everything costs including shipping. And then I'll figure out how payments will be done.

[EZ_Gaav]

On a slightly related topic, Ive found using netflix is a great way to watch anime. They have a decent sized collection, and at $20 a month I go through 12-15 discs.

Its much cheaper than buying the series' and I havn't really had any problems with their service.

[EZ_nekoken]

I don't know how anyone has time for fansubs anymore. Nearly everything I used to own fansubbed on vhs (400 tapes or so) is out on dvd now, and there's at least 20 new discs coming out every month. I don't even want to guess how much anime I normally watch but I'll guarantee you it exceeds any sort of sanity test out there. I can barely keep up with just the domestic releases and the few region 2 discs I buy. Do you people still watching fansubs just not watch the vast plethora of commercial releases or what?

Narsse Nekoken

[Stalk]

I don't buy R2 dvd's, but I only buy R1 dvd's of anime I've already seen and truly enjoyed, and are not butchered. So I'm not buying anime I haven't seen. I consider fansubs something like watching it on TV before buying. It's not fair, in my opinion, to be forced to buy without knowing whether you'll like it or not. It's like buying The X Files without having the opportunity to watch it on TV to see if you enjoy it enough.

That's why I have lots of time for fansubs. I watch about 20-30 hours of anime each week.

[EZ_Rigorn]

Sorry for the semi-unrelated post, but I was trying to download episodes of Naruto and bittorrent isn't working too well. Anybody know any good mIRC channels? Or, could anyone explain to me why I always upload about 5x faster than I download on bittorrent? I have high speed DSL, but I only ever download at like 4 kbps, whereas I upload at around 20 kbps. Thanks!

[TeanninBramblefeet]

One problem some people have with BitTorrent is being firewalled, and the incoming ports are blocked or something like that (I forget exactly...). If you're behind a router, I suggest going into the settings for it and opening up the ports that BitTorrent uses, as this fixes quite a few download to upload ratio problems. Also, since you're using DSL, you might want to drop your max upload speed to around 13 to 15 or so, as often with DSL, if you're maxing out your available upload bandwidth, your download bandwidth takes a crap.

And if you want to find anime... or really anything on IRC, I suggest searching for what you want using www.ircspy.com

[notwen]

Quote: I don't even want to guess how much anime I normally watch but I'll guarantee you it exceeds any sort of sanity test out there. I can barely keep up with just the domestic releases and the few region 2 discs I buy. Do you people still watching fansubs just not watch the vast plethora of commercial releases or what?

That's a bit of a loaded question. Do I not watch the vast plethora of commercial releases? No, I don't. Do I buy commercial releases? Of course.

For fansubs, there are generally about 6 or 7 shows I try to keep up with at a time. At the moment I'm down to 4 or 5. That ONLY makes about 2 to 2.5 hours worth of material per week (less right now).

For DVDs, I usually end up buying about 80 dvds in the course of the year. And most of those are shows I watched and enjoyed on fansub (be that new digisubs or 4th gen VHS from back in college). Maybe I'll watch one or two a day. Or maybe I'll marathon 4 or 5 on a rainy Saturday.

That's not so much time really. Maybe there is just more that appeals to you than does me. Something like 450 anime dvds came out last year, after all, but as much as I love anime, it's like everything else - most of it I can do without.

[EZ_Urusai]

Quote:Something like 450 anime dvds came out last year,

... Looks at how his collection has grown about 250+ videos over the last year.

I can understand where your sitting stalkyer. If you want I could send by anime database to ya with all the ones I have. (Yes Im such a geek that I wrote a libary program to track all my anime. The thing even keeps descriptions and box cover graphics.) Not sure how that would help you though because they are all commercial stuff.

...

On a side note... My shower curtain has been looking kind of raggid and I was going to replace it. I has a strange thought of replacing it with an Anime one. But I didnt see anything on a casual google. Anybody know of one off the top?

[EZ_nekoken]

I guess my attitude is that most of the really good modern stuff will eventually come out on dvd domestically so I'm willing to wait for it. And nobody bothers finishing off old series (like Legend of the Galactic Heroes) so there just isn't any impetus for me to deal with the hassle of fansubs. I don't trust any of the peer to peer networks and am too lazy to read through the source code of the open source clients to verify they won't be doing anything I don't want them to. I also only have a 256kb pipe now that I live out in the sticks again.

I think I'm averaging about 150 new discs a year at the moment but I'm hoping that will slow down a bit now that I've replaced almost all of my tapes and a number of series are completed such as City Hunter or Ranma 1/2. Once the Marmalade Boy box comes out my fansub collection will be down to Legend of the Galactic Heroes and Kodomo no Omocha.

[Stalk]

Well, I mostly do fansubs because of what WONT come out here. For example, a World Masterpeice Theater anime just started airing, 3000 leagues in search of Mother, which was aired in 1979, is being subbed right now. This anime won't come to america, most likely ever.

There are many others that won't come. That I can watch stuff that will come before buying it here is just a bonus.

[EZ_Dazzler Twodirks]

here's my Anime DVD collection list dunno if i can burn em tho Burner is a pain for me...

The Slayers season 1 * boxed 4 disc *
The Slayers "Next" season 2 * boxed 4 disc *
The Slayers "Try" season 3 * boxed 4 disc *
The Slayers "Book of Spells"
The Slayers "Great"
The Slayers Motion Picture
The Slayers Return
Record of Lodoss War * boxed 2 disc *
Record of Lodoss war 2 * boxed 4 disc *
Sailor Moon R Movie
Sailor Moon S Movie
Sailor Moon Super S Movie
Sailor Moon volumes 1 - 27
Pretty Soldier Sailor Moon R * Japanese boxed 8 disc *
Pretty Soldier Sailor Moon S * Japanese boxed 8 disc *
Magic Users Club volume 1 - 7
Soul Hunter volume 1 - 6
Excel Saga volume 1 - 6
Galaxy Fraulien Yuna
You're Under Arrest OVA
You're Under Arrest volume 2 - 3
You're Under Arrest The Motion Picture
Maze OVA
Maze the MegaBurst Space * boxed 4 disc *
Crest of the Stars volume 1 - 4
Banner of the Stars volume 1 - 3
Animation Runner Kuromi
InuYasha volume 1 - 14
Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi volume 1
Louie the Rune Soldier volume 1 - 6
Chobits volume 1 - 6
Ai Yori Aoshi volume 1 - 5
Hack://Sign volume 1 - 5
All Purpose Cultural Cat Girl Nuku Nuku
Nuku Nuku DASH volume 1 - 3
Angelic Layer volume 1 - 3
Final Fantasy Unlimited volume 1 - 3
Wild Arms volume 1 - 5
Escaflowne Limited edition TV Series * boxed 8 disc *
Mr. Bean the Animated Series * boxed 2 disc *
Spirited Away
Princess Mononoke
Undergrads the Complete First season
Pretear volume 1 - 2
Sakura Wars OVA
Sakura Wars "Return of the Spirit Warriors" volume 1 - 2
Sakura Wars TV volume 1 - 6
Sakura Wars the Movie
Oh My Goddess! volume 1 - 2
Ah My Goddess! the Movie
Adventures of Mini Goddess volume 1 - 4
Cat Soup
Neon Genesis Evangelion "Death and Rebirth"
Neon Genesis Evangelion "End of Evangelion"
Neon Genesis Evangelion Director's Cut
Saint Tail volume 1 - 4
Jubie the Ninja Girl volume 1 - 4
Martian Successor Nadesico Volume 1 - 6
Martian Successor Nadesico "Prince of Darkness"
Real Bout High School volume 1 - 4
Arc the Lad volume 1 - 5
Magic Knight Rayearth * boxed 5 disc *
Magic Knight Rayearth 2 * boxed 7 disc *
Rayearth OVA
Blue Seed volume 1 - 4
Blue Seed Beyond volume 1
The Twelve Kingdoms volume 1 - 2
Battle of the Planets volume 1 - 6
Gatchaman collection DVD
Gokudo volume 1 - 5
Sakura Diaries volume 1 - 4
Ranma 1/2 OVA * boxed 3 disc *
Ranma 1/2 Movie "Big Trouble in Nekonran, China"
Ranma 1/2 Movie 2 "Nihao My Concubine"
Ranma 1/2 "Digital Dojo" season 1 * boxed 4 disc *
Ranma 1/2 "Anything Goes Martial Arts" season 2 * boxed 5 disc *
Ranma 1/2 "Hard Battle" season 3 * boxed 5 disc *
Ranma 1/2 "Outta Control" season 4 * boxed 5 disc *
Ranma 1/2 "Martial Mayhem" season 5 * boxed 5 disc *
Ranma 1/2 "Random Rhapsody" season 6 volumes 1 - 8
Ranma 1/2 "Ranma Forever" season 7 volume 1 - 8
Miyuki-Chan In Wonderland
Those Who Hunt Elves volume 1 - 2
Those Who Hunt Elves 2 volume 1 - 2
Robotech volume 1 - 14
Macross Plus volume 1 - 2
The Iron giant
Cardcaptor Sakura *japanese* volume 1 - 2
Cardcaptor Sakura the Movie
Fortune Quest volume 1
Burn Up W
Burn Up Excess volume 1 - 4
Phantom of Inferno
Shamantic Princess
Laberinth of Flames
Elf Princess Rane
Angel Links volume 1 - 3
Phantom Quest Corp volume 1
Gestalt volume 1
Gunsmith Cats "Bulletproof"
Eden's Bowy volume 1
Earthian
Blood the Last Vampire
Happy Tree Friends volume 1
Gasaraki volume 1
Pilot Canidate volume 1 - 2
Risky Safety volume 1
Dirty Pair FLASH volume 1 - 3
Special Duty Combat unit Shinesman volume 1
Ruin Explorers
Tenmonya Voyagers volume 1
RGveda
The Sorceress Hunters
"Hunt for the sword" Samurai
Battle Skipper the Movie
Alien Nine volume 1
The Simpsons Complete First Season * boxed 3 disc *
The Simpsons Complete Second Season * boxed 4 disc *
Assemble Insert
Moldiver volume 1
Someday Dreamers volume 1 - 2
Sorcerer on the Rocks
Berserk volume 1
Boogiepop Phantom Evolution volume 1
The Slim Shady Show
EX-Driver perfect Collection
KO Beast volume 1
Legend of the Mystical Ninja volume 1
Escaflowne the Movie
Street Fighter 2 Alpha the Movie

[Stalk]

I did not want to make a new post, so without further ado, I would like to finally announce the implementation of this concept.

Please bear in mind that the first month will be hard, as I get used to doing this, knowing what to buy, etc. And it would behoove you to go to the forum and reading the Welcome post there.

I got Aidden's permission for this site, because there is no way to do this without cluttering up Logged Out and generally annoying the Safehousers.

It is nothing fancy, no pictures, just text, links, and a forum. If someone wants to design a layout, by all means, knock yourself out. I'm pretty sure that since the entire site is less than 200kb total, I won't have bandwidth issues.

Oh, and yes, homestead is crap. I know this, you know this, I'm too damned lazy to find a better place, so if you want to recommend something that is as easy to register as Homestead, and about the same cost, then please do recommend.

In order to aviod problems, I will be the only person distributing/trading. After I feel confident and everything is running smoothly, I will allow others to trade with each other on the forum.

Please keep in mind that this is a nonprofit thing. Anyone who tries to make a profit will be banned permanently. Knowingly attempting to trade licensed items will result in a warning or ban. Anime Fansub Distribution is now availble.
~Stalk

[DarthEnderX]

Btw, I downloaded Naruto 1-70 and it is just awsome. Thanks to everyone that talked about it.

*hugs DVD burner*

[EZ_Urusai]

Well, I took a look and picked some out but I need to setup a paypal acct.

Also looked at your "All Anime I Have" list. If you want I have an Anime Catalog program that I wrote so that I could keep track of all mine. In it I also wrote a "HTML Catalog Generator" that will put all the titles into an HTML format that can be uploaded to the website.

What makes it different is that for each title you can also enter a description and box art graphic in additon to specifics such as categories, ratings, producer, language, duration, suggested age...... Basiclly a lot of things you may want to know about it.
When you click on a specific title then it displays the details along with the graphic.

I did it for my own use because I thought it would be a fun thing to have. If you want a copy I can send it to you, all youd have to do is all the data entry. (Which could be the worst part in some cases)

About the only requirement is that youll probably have to have Microsoft Access installed on the machine, or at least the database drivers. Ive never run the app on a machine without access so I couldn't say for sure. I wrote it so long ago and didnt figure anyone would be using it other than me so I didnt write anything special for the database accessability.

[Stalk]

That sounds great, Urusai. I was having the hardest time organizing everything. The stuff on the list of Anime I have is probably only 50% or less of what I actually have. It's just way too cluttered for me to sort through.

Paypal wasn't too hard to set up, only took me 5 days to get confirmed and ready.