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Ok we can probably all agree that female circumcision is bad right? Well a bill to ban it was in the Georgia house and someone slipped in a rider that also bans female genital piercings. Don't matter if you want it, and only applies to woman.
story.news.yahoo.com/news..._piercings
Like they said on the radion, a piercing down there is "like finding that free curly fry in your regular french fries, a nice suprise"
EZ_Vindicor
03-25-04, 08:13 AM
What the hell business do lawmakers have legislating things like that?!?
/boggle
And if you're able to "slip something past" a politician, you really need to kick every one of the short-bus rejects you've elected out of office.
That's what I'm saying. Did you read the quote by the represenative?
Amendment sponsor Rep. Bill Heath, R-Bremen, was slack-jawed when told after the vote that some adults seek the piercings.
"What? I've never seen such a thing," Heath said. "I, uh, I wouldn't approve of anyone doing it. I don't think that's an appropriate thing to be doing."
Poor bastard probably hasn't been under the hood (wee lewd associations) in years.
Edited by: MARBH at: 3/25/04 8:48 am
EZ_Andorion
03-25-04, 08:52 AM
Phew, my Prince Albert is safe.
/nothin'
~Berj
EZ_Filan Fyretracker
03-25-04, 09:02 AM
/shiver
how the hell can anyone shove a metal rod through their privates, i mean honestly thats just not something ya do to Captain Winky or(in the female case) the beaver.
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Theres something on the
Wing....
EZ_Gannab
03-25-04, 09:04 AM
What else can we expect out of Georgia? This is the same state that recently was considering removing the word 'evolution' from the school curriculum, that only recently took anti-sodomy laws off the books, and in which one of the major political issues is whether or not to have a confederate battle flag as part of the state flag. I mean, the county next to mine de-segregated it's schools like 20 years after the rest of the country, and I know of teachers in kintergarden who get away with having straight up Bible study in class because everyone looks the other way.
This is one of the most bassackwards @#%$ up states in the country.
At least the guy could have also slipped in legistlation on voluntary male piercings too, but no! Not only do we get to live a hundred years ago in how we legislate people's personal life, we get to keep the old school sexist condensation too. Yay for the peach state!
lol, so one person passes something through and suddenly the whole state feels that way? yeah right. Wraine aka "The Spine Tickler!"
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No don't blame the state. Here's what probably happened. Everyone had already decided the initial bill was good (and I agree, female circumcision is a evil thing). Then a few of the leadership let someone slip in a rider. No debate on it, and then pushbutton voting by negligent representatives. I expect it will get caught by the senate.
Not to mention it still needs to go through the other half of the legislature...
I'd agree they probably shouldn't pass this law, but hows it any different than any other of a million stupid laws out there?
Hell, I could probably list a dozen Tax related laws that would impact your life FAR more negatively than this one, but I suppose it gets attention cause it has to do with soemone's crotch.
Well morning radio shows are more likely to report on this then tax news.
EZ_Hindraak
03-25-04, 09:30 AM
Quote:I suppose it gets attention cause it has to do with soemone's crotch.
hell, it got my attention.
EZ_TribalGeek
03-25-04, 09:39 AM
Okay heres the thing folks. States do have the right to legislate things like this. THey have the right on any body mod you can think of. Most of the time it's a good thing becasuse you don't have @#%$ shops opening up that will get you hurt. In this case it is a bad thing. Now this is the first that I have heared of doing this, but I do know there are atleast two states that have a ban on tattoos.
As to female circumscision some girls want to have this done or a couple procedures about the hood done due to the way they feel it looks or their sexuality. This removes that right from them and well either cause them to get it done by illeagal cutters who will just @#%$ @#%$ up or to do it themselves with sometimes thankfully good results. The same goes to genital piercings on girls. Just because it's illegal dosent mean they wont be getting it done it just means that they will be getting it done by who don't care about the laws.
The perks of being law enforcement went up.
"Ma'am, we have a report that you have a genital piercing and are here to investigate..."
EZ_Gannab
03-25-04, 09:47 AM
Quote:lol, so one person passes something through and suddenly the whole state feels that way? yeah right.
Yeah right indeed, it would be an illogical conclusion to jump to that everyone in the entire state feels the same way based on one person - but then I looked back through the entire thread and realized no one said that, so now I'm wondering why Wraine is talking to himself.
EDIT:
MARBH, I hope you're right. And since it did pass 160-0 that would seem very probable... it just pisses me off that we have people like Bill Heath in there in the first place. He knew what he was doing by slipping it in there, and also refuses to do the same for male piercings to at least be consistent:
Quote:
Heath said that while some piercings do fall under the category of involuntary genital mutilation, he is fine with banning the voluntary procedures as well. "I just don't think it's appropriate," Heath said.
The bill only regulates female genital piercings. Heath said he doesn't support male genital piercings, but won't draft legislation to address the issue.
From The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Edited by: Gannab at: 3/25/04 9:57 am
EZ_Ceelorn
03-25-04, 09:55 AM
Quote:Ok we can probably all agree that female circumcision is bad right?
I agree, though its no worse than male circumcision. or at the very least on infants who have the decision made for them
Dragynphyre
03-25-04, 10:11 AM
VERY intersting comment coming from you, Aldarion.
EZ_Aldarion Shard
03-25-04, 10:16 AM
Since you find it so interesting, would you be so kind as to point out *any* double standard in *any* statement I have ever made?
Brelkor
03-25-04, 10:37 AM
Really, the intent behind the law is to give the law another wedge into controlling businesses, in this case tattoo-peircing shops. Lame.
Lets face it their not gonna go about dropping panties and handing out fines any time soon Brelkor the Blackhammer, The Masta Back Stabba, retired rogue
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And mother wake me early in the morning "[i]
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EZ_Vindicor
03-25-04, 10:39 AM
Quote:I do know there are atleast two states that have a ban on tattoos.
Out of curiosity, what two states? I sure as hell don't want to live there.
Massachusetts just recently repealed it's ban on parlors. New Hampshire bordertowns were usually tattoo parlor heavy. :)
EZ_Aurarier
03-25-04, 10:50 AM
Fun fact: it is illegal to get a tattoo on your hand in TN (something about the devil comin back with the mark of the beast on his hand)
Fun fact: A friend (and I use the term loosely) of mine in High School got really drunk one night and gave himself a prince albert with a sewing needle.
I'm not sure how this attributes to the overall subject, I just wanted to talk about my friend shoving a needle through his peeney.
EZ_Vindicor
03-25-04, 10:53 AM
Quote:Fun fact: A friend (and I use the term loosely) of mine in High School got really drunk one night and gave himself a prince albert with a sewing needle.
I'm not sure how this attributes to the overall subject, I just wanted to talk about my friend shoving a needle through his peeney.
#1: Ow.
#2: I've never heard it referred to as a 'peeney' before.
Dragynphyre
03-25-04, 11:23 AM
Quote:Since you find it so interesting, would you be so kind as to point out *any* double standard in *any* statement I have ever made?
Your posts in threads that discussed homosexuals being allowed to marry one another... There were quite a few statements you made that said that the term marriage should be reserved for hetero- unions only, etc.
That's a double standard if ever I heard one - heteros can, homos can't... even though they're all legal citizens with presumably the same legal rights.
Just found it rather ironic.
Actually, Gannab, I was speaking to you. Your direct reply to my post makes yor recognition of that fact obvious.
And before you go off and say, "I didn't do that." Let's take a little trip down short-term memory lane.
"What else can we expect out of Georgia? This is the same state that recently was considering removing the word 'evolution' from the school curriculum..."
Looks like a direct parallel attempt in the making to me, George.
Not a double standard at all.
Not unless you consider Bans on Incest and polygamy to be equally as much a double standard. After all, they don't get to marry who they want to either.
Llabak Tharr
03-25-04, 11:40 AM
THOU SHALT NOT MAKE THIS A GAY MARRIAGE THREAD
-The management
EZ_TribalGeek
03-25-04, 11:41 AM
If I remember correctly its Oklahoma and South Carolina. I am sure of it on Oklahoma which is why dallas area has so many tat shops that can charge out the ass. South Carolina is what I am iffy on.
Heres a link to the bme article on whats going on
www.bmezine.com/news/pubr...40325.html
The major problem some people has is that it is sexist by banning it on just females. Plus its kinda intrusive to say that you can't get a piercing that no one sees.
EZ_Gannab
03-25-04, 11:42 AM
I'm quite well away of what I posted, Wraine. I'm quite frustrated by of nonsense that goes on in my state, indicated by the examples I gave.
However, I don't see how saying that I'm not surprised that something like this happened in Georgia based on all the other crap I've see happen here = everybody thinks one way because one person thinks that way.
So now that we've visited short-term memory lane on what both you and I posted, I'm gonna go off and say, "I didn't do that" because I didn't. Shurley you can see that. And don't call me George. Edited by: Gannab at: 3/25/04 11:44 am
EZ_Aldarion Shard
03-25-04, 11:42 AM
Oh wow. THAT was your perceived double standard?
Marriage is and always has been defined as a union between a man and a woman. All human beings have access to this right. Gays included.
No double standard here. Veda Kai'Rin
Llabak Tharr
03-25-04, 11:43 AM
There's actually a law in MA that limits the number of unwed (women?) who can live in the same apartment. Evidently they're worried that if more than a couple share an apartment, a brothel will open up!
Those prudes! viva la brothel! and viva gorditas!
Jhani Vandolay
03-25-04, 11:48 AM
"Evidently they're worried that if more than a couple share an apartment, a brothel will open up!"
This has been tested scientifically and is true. Not to claim the status of a "real professional" in any one endeavor has been a small price to pay for the many benefits and pleasures of trespassing. ~Leo Lionni
/completely unrelated anecdote
I was married in Massachusetts and a marriage license requires a blood test there (NH does not). I figured it was some "avoid incest" precaution from colonial days or a hip modern test to screen for HIV. Apparently it's for communicable syphilis. If you have communicable syphilis you cannot get married in Massachusetts. WTF?
/end completely unrelated anecdote
I know what you were getting at. It's the way that you said it that I take issue with. If you had said something along the line of, "How could we expect less? Legislators in this state are known for their rediculously regressive and intrusive proposals. For example..."
Shirley, you can see the difference I infer between that and what you posted:
"What else can we expect out of Georgia? This is the same state that recently was considering removing the word 'evolution' from the school curriculum..."
Where in GA do you live anyway?
<--Marietta
EZ_Lerkin Behinja
03-25-04, 12:40 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong (and I probably am), but female circumcision and FGM (female genital mutilation) are interchangeable in most people's minds. I don't just mean just here; I've seen many people campaigning against female circumcision when they are really against FGM. I believe this is where the alleged "double standard" is being seen. Male circumcision applies only to removing the foreskin, while female circumcision is anything from doing the same to the clitoris to suturing up the vagina.
I remember reading that only uncircumcised men are susceptible to penile cancer, while circumcising the clitoris gives no such perk.
I for one, can attest to Wraines "Backwardassness"
I have always assumed all of Georgia was just like him..
EZ_Xanthium Bladesong
03-25-04, 12:55 PM
Quote:I am sure of it on Oklahoma which is why dallas area has so many tat shops that can charge out the ass.
Dallas is kind of far from any densely populated areas of Oklahoma. I would imagine you would find the glut of parlors in the Sher/Den area or in Denton if this was the case. I'm going straight to hell, just like my momma said.
Syphilis was a real monster back in the days before antibiotics, I'm not surprised some states still have old laws screening for it.
I always thought the blood tests were to find which couples have incompatible bloodtypes and will need drugs to avoid miscarriages, though.
EZ_ColvinCozener
03-25-04, 01:11 PM
I blame Sherman and Grant for the South's backwardassness. If we hadn't had to spend so many years rebuilding our great states, then we would also be as enlightened as everyone else.
EZ_Aurarier
03-25-04, 01:18 PM
I blame Jim and Tammy Fae
EZ_Gannab
03-25-04, 01:19 PM
Quote:I know what you were getting at. It's the way that you said it that I take issue with. If you had said something along the line of, "How could we expect less? Legislators in this state are known for their rediculously regressive and intrusive proposals. For example..."
I didn't say legislators because I wasn't just talking about just them in my examples. I made an ad hominem attack against the people of a particular state based on my unjustified stereotype of them, further making myself a hypocrite due to the fact that I live in said state. I was a dink. Let's move on.
EZ_Filan Fyretracker
03-25-04, 01:32 PM
www.dumblaws.com/states/s...ut&Ad=Read
nothing beats....
Hartford
* You aren't allowed to cross a street while walking on your hands.
* You may not educate dogs.
* It is illegal for a man to kiss his wife on Sunday.
EZ_Ten Evenings
03-25-04, 01:42 PM
Thatll probably get turned back. The real problem with law making in this country is that people can attach stuff as it goes along, and it gets passed or shot down because of the attachments.
I agree that this will never stand up in court. While I'm sure the state government could regulate piercing parlors for sanitary and other public health concerns, and outright banning of any cosmetic surgery is going to run afoul of the same constitutional protections as abortion.
A couple problems:
Griswold v. Connecticut
and serious scrutiny standard for laws that treat men and women differently.
Caowyth
03-25-04, 02:45 PM
Thanks Filan, I wanted to look up W. Virginia and I forgot the link.
Quote:It is legal for a male to have sex with an animal as long as it does not exceed 40 lbs.
Another southern double standard!
EZ_Splendora
03-25-04, 08:36 PM
"I blame Sherman and Grant for the South's backwardassness."
haha thats a good one. Yes its really sad the south didn't
win the civil war and be able to continue the fine traditions
of slavery and oppression
Anyways...this is just another example of a lawmaker
forcing other people to comply with his personal beliefs.
When will these goofs get it into their heads thats people
should be free to do what they want as long as it doesn't
hurt anyone else and its fully consensual.
Quote:Anyways...this is just another example of a lawmaker
forcing other people to comply with his personal beliefs.
Erm... Isn't that what most laws are?