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  • Safehouse Staff Infection
    • Feb 2002
    Nenjin

    #16
    Re: Bayer Aspirin

    Oh you women, always trying to hump your way to equal rights.

    /sarcasm
    I don't want to live in a world where there are no consequences for being stupid. A few thousand years ago these users would have been eaten by lions.

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    • v. Resident Grammarian
      • May 2004
      Toprem

      #17
      Re: Bayer Aspirin

      What exactly has this retarded stuff about religion and birth control thats been going on lately? I've heard a little bit on the news, but didn't pay much attention to it since I wasn't watching it and I've not seen any articles posted about it.
      Master Tailor Toprem Spaztastic, level 75 Drizzlecaller of Karana. Member of Clan Ta Veren

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      • Veteran
        • Apr 2002
        Pearll

        #18
        Re: Bayer Aspirin

        Velvetrose said:
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        For Santorum's comments on CaffeinatedThoughts .com, Oct. 18, 2011 or for the part you minimised?
        I minimized it so that there wasn't a bunch of unnecessary clutter to the post, without having to remove anything contained in the quote.

        I was actually asking for a link to the article that you got this from, as I'm unfamiliar with CaffinatedThoughts.com or, indeed, with the issue itself. Searching Google for "congress contraception" is finding articles about a debate to whether or not religious-affiliated organizations should be required to include free birth-control coverage in their health plans.

        I'm not going to opine on what my ideas are on that subject because I don't feel the need to thump my chest and pose with teeth bared on this messageboard, nor do I feel that I have enough information to form an accurate opinion, but this thread seems to have been started as a knee-jerk reaction without enough brought forth to back it up. Bring me information that I can use to better form an opinion and I'll use it.

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        • Veteran
          • May 2004
          Xynn

          #19
          Re: Bayer Aspirin

          I could go into the whole "Distract the masses with trivial stuff that when it boils down to it doesnt matter in order to keep them unaware of the really big stuff that we are doing". But I just find it funny that the political party that says "Keep the government out of my life" does stuff like this.

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          • Registered Member
            • Jan 2004
            amaquin

            #20
            Re: Bayer Aspirin

            Velvetrose said:
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            How about they mandate a man get a probe stuck up their ass each time they inpregnate a woman who seeks an abortion...? I mean it is only fair right?

            OH and it gets even better...

            Sen. Bill Stanley, R-Franklin County, won passage Tuesday of a measure that would permit wrongful death civil lawsuits against those who kill a fetus
            Actually, there's some hope. From HoPo (first google result) "Janet Howell, Virginia State Senator, Attaches Rectal Exam Amendment To Anti-Abortion Bill"

            The law would have required doctors perform a rectal probe and a cardiac stress test before prescribing ED medications. Her amendment failed to pass; gee, I wonder why that could be? Can't have anything to do with my damn state being run by idjits from NOVA and fundies from everywhere else.

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            • Veteran
              • May 2004
              Velvetrose

              #21
              Re: Bayer Aspirin

              Pearll...my first post was MY opinion of what I have seen/read/heard happening for the last few months.

              NOT a knee jerk reaction to anything.

              Have you not been paying attention to any of the Republican debates or any of their stump speeches?.

              Did you not see any of the news reports about the Susan G Komen Foundation recinding funding for Planned Parenthood (primarily based on Karen Handle's opinion that PP is just an abortion mill)? Or anything about the fall out from this decision? SGK has decided to continue funding Planned Parenthoods breast screening work after they realised how pissed off this made their source of income...the women (and men) who donate.

              Have you not listened to the debate about whether Religious organizations who have empolyees were being asked to provide birth control to their employees who had their insurance through their workplace i.e. the Catholic Church (schools and hospitals)

              Did you not read about the ballot measures by States like Mississippi that would ban abortions out right or about States that have limited the ability of Planned Parenthood to have offices located in areas that need them by creating building codes that were near impossible to meet?

              Yeah...not knee jerk at all

              P.S. so since I am not writing a term paper, no I do not need to cite my references
              Last edited by Velvetrose; 02-17-12, 01:29 PM.
              The inner Machinations of my mind are an Enigma - Patrick Star
              A steel fist in a Velvet glove, the force is there but it's concealed just below the surface.

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              • Veteran
                • May 2004
                Velvetrose

                #22
                Re: Bayer Aspirin

                http://youtu.be/KN7WfIZh690
                The inner Machinations of my mind are an Enigma - Patrick Star
                A steel fist in a Velvet glove, the force is there but it's concealed just below the surface.

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                • Minister of Insight
                  • Jul 2002
                  Ponzi

                  #23
                  Re: Bayer Aspirin

                  http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012...om-testifying/ is one article I found on it. Doing a search on "Darrell Issa birth control" returns plenty of stuff.

                  The more I hear from these types of social conservatives, the more I think the only explanation is that they have a deep seated hatred of both women and sex that's caused by and reinforced by their religious beliefs.
                  Last edited by Ponzi; 02-17-12, 02:10 PM.

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                  • Veteran
                    • Apr 2002
                    Pearll

                    #24
                    Re: Bayer Aspirin

                    Velvetrose said:
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                    Pearll...my first post was MY opinion of what I have seen/read/heard happening for the last few months.

                    NOT a knee jerk reaction to anything.

                    Have you not been paying attention to any of the Republican debates or any of their stump speeches?.
                    No.

                    Did you not see any of the news reports about the Susan G Komen Foundation recinding funding for Planned Parenthood (primarily based on Karen Handle's opinion that PP is just an abortion mill)? Or anything about the fall out from this decision? SGK has decided to continue funding Planned Parenthoods breast screening work after they realised how pissed off this made their source of income...the women (and men) who donate.
                    No.

                    Have you not listened to the debate about whether Religious organizations who have empolyees were being asked to provide birth control to their employees who had their insurance through their workplace i.e. the Catholic Church (schools and hospitals)
                    No.

                    Did you not read about the ballot measures by States like Mississippi that would ban abortions out right or about States that have limited the ability of Planned Parenthood to have offices located in areas that need them by creating building codes that were near impossible to meet?
                    No.

                    Yeah...not knee jerk at all

                    P.S. so since I am not writing a term paper, no I do not need to cite my references
                    From the way that your post was formatted, it looked like the majority of the post was quoted from the site. That's why I asked for the reference.

                    That along with the fact that you're trying to make a point to what you should assume is an uninformed audience. Without information to back up your point, even if it's just a relevant link, you can't expect us to make an informed decision about the issue.

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                    • Queen Of Chaos
                      • Jul 1999
                      Koru

                      #25
                      Re: Bayer Aspirin

                      If contraceptives (also used for some non-contraceptive medical purposes most men do not want to know about because it makes them go yuuuck, grooooss) are wrong because they're interfering with "things are supposed to be", i.e. the natural order of things... shouldn't we also restrict men's access to Viagra? I mean if nature intended that a guy can't get it up to pass his flacid genes on, who are we to counter god's will in that matter? Right?

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                      • Veteran
                        • Apr 2001
                        Yalum

                        #26
                        Re: Bayer Aspirin

                        Toprem said:
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                        What exactly has this retarded stuff about religion and birth control thats been going on lately? I've heard a little bit on the news, but didn't pay much attention to it since I wasn't watching it and I've not seen any articles posted about it.
                        This is fallout from the health care reform bill a couple years back. One of the provisions was free contraception for any woman covered by insurance, which made the Catholic Church sit up and say "Oy!". A few weeks back the Obama administration set down the rules: Actual houses of worship would not have to provide contraception, but non-church employers have to regardless of religious affiliation, including Catholic schools/hospitals/charities.

                        The response was the completely expected "Not good enough!" and the Republican candidates were on that like a dog on a bone. The President announced a new compromise, employers didn't have to be involved at all, the insurer would reach out to the women themselves. Health insurance companies are just fine with this requirement, they view pregnancies with roughly the same skepticism as life insurance companies view suicide, and would much rather give you a box of condoms than pay ten grand for you to give birth.

                        Still not good enough, of course. Both sides believe they've got a winner here. Democrats are coming for your Bibles! Republicans are coming for your ladybits! The argument has been absolutely everywhere for some time now. I don't know how anybody missed it.

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                        • Veteran
                          • May 2004
                          Velvetrose

                          #27
                          Re: Bayer Aspirin

                          Koru said:
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                          If contraceptives (also used for some non-contraceptive medical purposes most men do not want to know about because it makes them go yuuuck, grooooss) are wrong because they're interfering with "things are supposed to be", i.e. the natural order of things... shouldn't we also restrict men's access to Viagra? I mean if nature intended that a guy can't get it up to pass his flacid genes on, who are we to counter god's will in that matter? Right?
                          Oh no...THAT is covered.with no questions
                          The inner Machinations of my mind are an Enigma - Patrick Star
                          A steel fist in a Velvet glove, the force is there but it's concealed just below the surface.

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                          • Veteran
                            • Apr 2002
                            Pearll

                            #28
                            Re: Bayer Aspirin

                            Yalum said:
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                            The argument has been absolutely everywhere for some time now. I don't know how anybody missed it.
                            I hate politics with a passion. The vast majority of politicians are looking out for their own interests, not those of the people that they seek to represent. There has only been one politician that I've respected and, while he has been the subject of internet ridicule on a couple of occasions ("series of tubes" and "bridge to nowhere"), he was one of the few politicians that actually cared for the people he represented.

                            Beyond that one example, I've yet to find any politicians that I felt able to trust. I avoid what I can politically, unless something happens to reach my ears by chance. On those occasions that I'm forced to pay attention to the talking heads I try to find out what I can about the issue, then try to make that informed decision that I spoke about earlier. Most recently, the issues that have caught my ear were SOPA, the Occupy/99% movement, and the subject of this thread.

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                            • Veteran
                              • May 2004
                              Velvetrose

                              #29
                              Re: Bayer Aspirin

                              Here is are a few links to start with then...

                              http://sundial.csun.edu/2012/02/defu...uctive-rights/

                              http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...gist-says.html

                              http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/153...ned_parenthood

                              http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_849251.html

                              http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2011/11...ine-personhood

                              http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/elec...-gingrich.html
                              The inner Machinations of my mind are an Enigma - Patrick Star
                              A steel fist in a Velvet glove, the force is there but it's concealed just below the surface.

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                              • Veteran
                                • Apr 2002
                                Pearll

                                #30
                                Re: Bayer Aspirin

                                Thank you, VR. I'll take a look at those when I get home from work.

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