I think that the Zek server should have rog dagger itemization specific to the server. With such rivalry hindering progression, and rog daggers only coming from high end raid content, the gap is widening more and more between say us and wizards.

Casters had the latest and greatest in their spell repitiore from SoF very early on. In the expected progression the rogues would get their power later into the expansion.. but on Zek, there is only 1 rog on the server that I know of that has better than 2.0 or 2.5

So I think Zek should include a few pokers in non high end content that might allow us to compete a little more successfully with wizards that have 3 or 4 expansion newer spells for a mere few k plat.

I would like to see something like an ally faction SoF or TBS purchased knife that was 50dmg 40bsDmg 20 dly and no other stats. Maybe even norent summoned by an AA or something.

When 99% of zek rogues are using 3 year old weapons vs up to date high powered spell casting, there is definately a need for some zek unique dagger itemization.

Why do you think this problem is unique to Zek?

This is EverQuest - get used to the fact that casters get their DPS upgrades EVERY expansion. There isn't a single caster in our mid tier guild that is still using 75 spells regardless of the claims that Focii are their equivalent to weapons. It's all bullcrap. And just in case any caster misses out - they can research any missing spells within 1 or 2 expansions

And why Zek rogues should be any different to the 90% of rogues on other servers is beyond me.

It has been this way for as long as Casters rule development and as long as the CC program remains broken.

rogues are a very fun class that do pretty good dps, wizards are very boring and have amazing damage. and like catweazel said its not just zek its all servers. if you have a problem for the damage difference play a wizard but in my oppinion we could use some better weapons but nothing as extreme as 50/20 piercer and if that ever comes into play it should be end of the game raided boss dagger.

Im a rogue on zek as well. I dont think that still using 2.0 at level 80 is much of a handicap. I have the FC aug as well as tunat aug making it 30 19 which isnt too bad.

Also, on zek, Waylay and jugular slash can be used in pvp when ever they are up. This is SO amazingly helpful and almost balances out the fact that we dont have 50 damage pokers yet.

I have jugular slash, disarm, and waylay all tethered to my backstab key , so when i backstab, my opponent gets stunned ( for a good while ), dotted, and sometimes disarmed.

When stun lands i pop ligament slice and if it lands then you are in the clearing and they will be dead in under 10 seconds

Or if your quick enough you can stun, pop fury/frenzy and tear them apart before they can escape to the pok book or w/e :P

Zek is a special case because on just about every other server you do have a choice. You can join a guild that is in solteris or MMM raids if you want to. On zek that is not a choice one can make. The highest guilds on the server are barely in reach of embershank, which is still 3 expansions old.

Blue servers also dont have to compete for sheer survival with wizards that have up to date firepower; can instant cast 6k ice nukes on you with an 8 sec refresh while you have 650 vs cold and they dont even have to know where you are.

Update: New expansion - SoD

Just to keep y'all abreast of what zek looks like in relation to the previous posts..

I am the 2nd best geared rog on zek weaponry-wise. My backstabber is 37dmg and on mobs I routinely daggerlunge for 13k. However most wiz encounters go like this (most meaning 8 out of 10)

Rogue: 3rd spire, epic, TE, hide.. run to wiz, Daggerlunge.. BAM! 3k / 4k (stun resisted, snare resisted)
Wizard: Focused Arcanum, Twincast, 8k/ 8k instant nuke, twincast 12k / 12k big nuke.

Yes, I get 2 nuked to my death with 34k hps with 700 to all saves.. in under 5 seconds.

When a top end raid rogue gets completely demolished by a lGuk geared alt wizard in 5 seconds, I still think there needs to be something to balance it out.

Give us a 50BS dmg 100dly weapon with +20bs dmg bane to wizards and no other stats :P

or really, i'd settle for making Ambush and Ligament Slice land more than 10% of the time.. maybe 65% would be good. Or hell maybe even unresistable like Cryomancy! Ya thats the ticket.