I wasn't real happy with the whole projector in church idea, I'd rather sing songs out of the hymnals than view it on a screen.
I can tolerate it, but I don't like it.
But I don't EVER want to see another power point slide with the Christ hanging on the Cross in the background, and the words to the Lord's Prayer in Comic Sans with Word Art Effects.
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Hmm, didn't you make a similar complaint years ago about your church using powerpoint? I'm not exactly a churchgoer, but if I were to attend one, I'd want something with a bit more magic than a program that does nothing but remind you of bad office meetings and school presentations.
One of the leading problems of church's today in America (in my opinion, anyway) is that church has really just been reduced to building a social empire fueled by cutting edge marketing techniques and showy entertainment.
I heard about an underground church in a third world country where some Christians had gathered for their church meeting when suddenly two guys ran in the room with guns shouting "If you aren't willing to die for Christ, get out NOW!" A good number of people left and the two men put their guns away, pulled out their Bibles, and then began the Bible study.
I think that's a bit extreme, and it's probably just an anecdote anyway, but it's telling nonetheless.
I've never been an avid fan of churchly things, but the idea of The Lord's Prayer in Comic Sans with word art effects made me cringe even more than the thought of going to one in the first place.
I've always felt this sway towards technology enhanced sermons with extra effects and **** was more than slightly ridiculous. There used to be what I referred to as a "TechnoMegaChurch" near my old home with huge LCD screens, lighting effects, and a myriad of other excessive technology which all seemed like a desperate attempt at snagging a more youthful audience. I can understand the root causes of it and why they feel the need, but it just doesn't fit with my mental picture of what it should be, I suppose. When I was a theist, of many differing faiths, during my youth I always felt the idea of a spoken sermon (from the right speaker) was sort of a connection builder between you and that specific congregation. This idea of Power Point slides does indeed seem like it would bring it too near towards dreary Office/School presentations.
Although at this point in my life I'd only venture into a church if James Brown and Belushi both came back to life and it was exactly like the Blues Brothers... because, well, who wouldn't? So I suppose my opinion could be taken with a grain of salt. Come to think of it, this would be the only acceptable use of newer technology in a church to me (read: Hologram Brown/Belushi).
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One of the leading problems of church's <snip> is that church has really just been reduced to building a social empire fueled by cutting edge marketing techniques and showy entertainment.
Most of the Christian churches since Rome and the Medici, through the Millerites, and on to today have done the same thing. "What ever fills the pews." I'd say all churches, but my experience and history on others is weaker, so I can't make that claim.
But a church can't survive on just the old faithful, Kambic. They have to get new people attending, or the church in this world dies as it's members do. So far, the way to do that has been to be a social empire. Maybe they should consider a tiered structure where the newest members of the church, those not yet willing to die for Christ in an underground hole for instance, could meet and learn more; while those in more inner spheres of the church could gather and pray with only those others they know have passed what ever test your church finds necessary.
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Hmm, didn't you make a similar complaint years ago about your church using powerpoint? I'm not exactly a churchgoer, but if I were to attend one, I'd want something with a bit more magic than a program that does nothing but remind you of bad office meetings and school presentations.
I probably have made that complaint before. But Comic Sans is just over the line.
When I was a theist, of many differing faiths, during my youth I always felt the idea of a spoken sermon (from the right speaker) was sort of a connection builder between you and that specific congregation. This idea of Power Point slides does indeed seem like it would bring it too near towards dreary Office/School presentations.
Our Pastor doesn't actually use Powerpoint during the Sermon. But they do use it to do a slideshow of announcements before the service starts, and put the words to the prayers / songs that go on during the service up on the screen.
From a practical standpoint, I understand it... but I don't like it.
This thread just makes me sad. God forbid churches attempt to do something new. Even if it is a poor attempt, at least it is an attempt.
You have no idea how many times I had to rewrite this to keep it civil.
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Once upon a time when churchgoers were familiar with hymnals people learned how to sing various parts of harmony (typically melody, alto, tenor, bass). I've yet to attend a church which included the music (the notes) when using a projector.
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You have no idea how many times I had to rewrite this to keep it civil.
Once upon a time when churchgoers were familiar with hymnals people learned how to sing various parts of harmony (typically melody, alto, tenor, bass). I've yet to attend a church which included the music (the notes) when using a projector.
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That is odd, my old church had music done to an art. "If you sing out of tune, you must not love Jesus enough."
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Honestly, I don't get all the Comic Sans hate. It just looks like another regular font to me.
I wouldn't even recognize it without people pointing it out.
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one baffled by the relatively sudden popularity of font snobbery. Unless some text is in something approaching wingdings levels of unreadability, I don't even pay attention to it.
That's why I dislike Comi c Sans. Not because of the popular font hate, but because it's so strange to read. P apyrus looks like it suffers the same problem.
Sure, it's inappropriate for rape kits instructions, but you guys whine at even non serious, inconsequential little notes in that font. You font haters make even less sense than those people who get angry at me for calling legos legos.
Lego the company is worried about trademark dilution, people using its brand name as the generic word for snap-together building blocks. Why anybody not employed as a lawyer for Lego cares, I can't imagine.
Honestly, to me that's a pretty good milestone for a company. Kleenex, Sheetrock, Coke, etc. When someone uses your brand name to refer to the same product by another brand - that's a good thing.
Honestly, to me that's a pretty good milestone for a company. Kleenex, Sheetrock, Coke, etc. When someone uses your brand name to refer to the same product by another brand - that's a good thing.
It's good to be known... But It's bad when your brand is so diluted that they are all considered interchangeable by the market.
The poor, misbegotten Hydrox. The first, but sadly lost to Nabisco 'not giving a ****' and coming out with the exact same product with better marketing.
The owner of the restaurant I manage wanted the menu and training manuals to be in comic sans and I nearly failed in stopping in him. I wish i had know about that comic sans website then. He still writes memos in comic sans
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