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I know this doesnt have a whole lot to do with assassins specifically, but I've been trying to find a list for the damage tables. I wanted to see where assassins fit in with other classes. All I know about it is that healers are at the bottom of the list, then thanes, and then hybrids, but from there I can't remember. I'm not too sure that I'm being very clear about what I'm asking for, but if someone does happen to understand what it is I'm asking and knows where I can find this list (or table, whatever), I would appreciate the response. Thanks in advance
If you mean a straight DPS comparison(which classes do the most damage), I guess you start with the debuff casters and work your way down(Spirit cabs, RC Runies, and Elds--I think it's Elds, not much Hib XP).
If you mean a straight DPS comparison(which classes do the most damage), I guess you start with the debuff casters and work your way down(Spirit cabs, RC Runies, and Elds--I think it's Elds, not much Hib XP).
Yeah this is what I'm looking for. I was pretty sure that warriors were at the top of the list, well as far as mellee goes, but I was wondering where assassins fit in, are they above the hybrid classes or below the hybrid classes?
Above Paladins, I know that, that was my first character, then came an infiltrator. I don't have a link to tables, but I definately get outdone by pure tanks. Warrior hit me for 875 the other day with 2h battler. Mercs, BMs, and Zerks all do better damage I believe.
If I were to guess I'd say assassins are pretty low on the DPS foodchain, unless you count the PA chain or something, it's all about frontloaded damage.
Sribich on the midgard vn boards has done more to test this out than anyone I know of. He used to have a link to a test comparing all mid classes in melee damage over 10 minutes, but he took it out of his sig and I can't find it now.
I DO know that from best to worst damage over 10 minutes it was:
2h savage
h2h savage
beserker
warrior
skald
thane
shadowblade
healer
However keep in mind in that test it was nothing but spamming 60% growth rate styles, and in the case of thane and skald, also spamming the shout dd's when possible. That kind of makes it an unfair comparison for the shadowblade, given that much of their best damage comes from CS styles not represented there. Still no test is perfect, and for comparing typically anytime damage, that's how it came out. Sribich put a ton of time into putting it together. I'll try to locate his chart more thoroughly when I get home (at work now).
Here is a copy of his post comparing tanks of each realm:
Well here is the conclusion of the dps tests. Due to the fact I have spent more time defending these tests against the angry mob than playing lately, it just isn't worth it to do anything else with them...especially coming from Midgard players.
Here is a rough idea of what some of you might be looking for...though Im not going to post exacts anymore because its just causing too many issues, and Im also limiting it to a few classes also.
Here is the conclusion
Fully buffed, unhasted, no dps buff, equal hastes:
Warriors outhit Armsman by about 10%...and outhit Heroes by around the same amount.
Berserkers outhit Mercs by about 11% also, and outhit Blademasters by about 3%
Fully buffed, Hib/Alb hasted, Mids no haste, no dps buff:
Armsman, outhit Warriors by about 6%, and Heroes by about 7-8%. Mercs outhit Zerkers by 3-4%, and Blademasters outhit Zerkers by about 14% (Does not include Flurry damage, which accounts for around an extra 2-3% damage in these tests)
The Albion base DPS Buff adds a bit over 5% more damage in this test over the Shaman DPS buff.
Conclusion: Without Hastes, Midgard tanks still hit the hardest in this test. What this test does NOT include, are taking into consideration best case styles. Styles such as Annihilation for Hero's would put them higher. Also, access to Haste buffs pushes Hib/Alb classes over Mid classes too. Hib Tanks almost always have 20% haste due to it being on the primary buff bot class, where Mids don't have it as often...and because of this often fall behind in the testing.
What this shows is that the damage numbers between the classes are pretty close when all things are considered equal (which hardly ever happens, relics and ToA bonuses can equal the playing field anywhere), and also shows that over time, Left Axe still does more base damage if all things are equal. (which Wyrd's tests have also shown) The problem there is that Midgard has to spec for the Left Axe to do higher damage, which just isn't very feasible on classes such as Shadowblades where they don't have the spec points to do it.
So that is the conclusion for now, thank you to everyone who sent the nice comments and supported this idea. Im sorry if you wanted to see exact numbers, but its just not worth arguing anymore. As always, if you want to test on Pendragon, send me a PM and I can test some things out with you.
