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Homeowners' association threatens $25 a day fine for peace sign wreath
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Homeowners' association threatens $25 a day fine for peace sign wreath

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• Homeowners' association threatens $25 a day fine for peace sign wreath
• Lisa Jensen says her wreath is not anti-war, it's "a spiritual thing"
• Association president Bob Kearns says some residents think it's Satanic symbol
• Kearns fired 5 committee members when they refused to ban wreath


DENVER, Colorado (AP) -- A homeowners' association in southwestern Colorado has threatened to fine a resident $25 a day until she removes a Christmas wreath with a peace sign that some say is an anti-Iraq war protest or a symbol of Satan.

Some residents who have complained have children serving in Iraq, said Bob Kearns, president of the Loma Linda Homeowners Association in Pagosa Springs.

He said some residents believed the wreath was a symbol of Satan. Three or four residents complained, he said.

"Somebody could put up signs that say drop bombs on Iraq. If you let one go up you have to let them all go up," he said in a telephone interview Sunday.

Lisa Jensen said she wasn't thinking of the war when she hung the wreath. She said, "Peace is way bigger than not being at war. This is a spiritual thing."

Jensen, a past association president, calculates the fines will cost her about $1,000, and doubts they will be able to make her pay. But she said she's not going to take it down until after Christmas.

"Now that it has come to this I feel I can't get bullied," she said. "What if they don't like my Santa Claus?"

The association in this 200-home subdivision 270 miles southwest of Denver has sent a letter to her saying that residents were offended by the sign and the board "will not allow signs, flags etc. that can be considered divisive."

The subdivision's rules say no signs, billboards or advertising are permitted without the consent of the architectural control committee.

Kearns ordered the committee to require Jensen to remove the wreath, but members refused after concluding that it was merely a seasonal symbol that didn't say anything.

Kearns fired all five committee members.


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Sounds like he was the only one complaining.


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Homeowners associations are a bastion of fascism in America's own backyard.


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Wishing for peace in the world has NEVER been a part of Christmas. In fact it goes against the spirit of the birth of Jesus Christ who slew 10.000 infidels the day after he was born and then went on a holy war with the aim to establish a permanent state of war in the world. Honest. I mean, would I tell a lie about Jesus?


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Koru, you wouldn't tell a lie about anything.



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Jesus sounds a lot like Chuck Norris.


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with a peace sign that some say is an anti-Iraq war protest or a symbol of Satan.
What the ******* ****? If someone threatened me with that I would take a **** on the doorstep of anyone who was in agreeance to fine me for that.

Edit: That Kearns dude is a f***** douche.



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the board "will not allow signs, flags etc. that can be considered divisive."
Peace...is divisive...



On a side note, I ******* hate HAs. ******* little Nazi committees.


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Toprem said:
What the ******* ****? If someone threatened me with that I would take a **** on the doorstep of anyone who was in agreeance to fine me for that.

Edit: That Kearns dude is a f***** douche.
Hey Top, do you ever react to anything in a way other than with a comedic internet tough-guy routine?


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Talius said:
Hey Top, do you ever react to anything in a way other than with a comedic internet tough-guy routine?
Hey lay off him, at least he didnt use giant sized font and a plethora of smiley faces.




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And at least he didn't stuff his mouth full of penises.

I mean, he's never done that so far, but still, thank god!


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The people who see a peace sign and get offended really need to get their heads examined. Can you really be "against peace"?


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If you want peace, the terrorists win.

Or something like that.



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Just sit this guy down in front of the Charlie Brown Christmas special. On the "Peace on Earth, good will towards men" bit he'll stroke out, and problem solved.


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Toprem said:
What the ******* ****? If someone threatened me with that I would take a **** on the doorstep of anyone who was in agreeance to fine me for that.
I would do the same - in the shape of a peace sign.



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CNN has a followup as the (one dickhead of the) HA has dropped its demand for the wreath to be removed. Link

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Aye...link.
Kearns and colleague Jeff Heitz both had their phone numbers changed to unlisted numbers Monday.


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Well, at least we can all agree that Homeowner's associations are evil. That goes for this one, as well as some of the ones a few years back that tried to ban Flags.

When our ddevelopment's HOA goes into effect, I plan to try and get elected as president, and have my first act to disband it.



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Id vote for you Meddik. Down with HOA!


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^ I'd agree, but in Norcross GA, we have homes where people are leaving unused furniture and applicances on the curb, which is illegal dumping. These are mostly renters and some homes have 4-6 families living in them.

HOA are evil, but at times a neccessary evil when you want to safe guard the value of your property - which is assessed by your neighbors in the area.

BTW, I think the wreath is just god awful ugly - peace symbol or not.

And yep, my HOA was the reason I weedwhacked my lawn 2 weeks ago - in NOVEMBER! when it's cold and mostly wet just to avoid some stupid letter form them. But, my yard looks better now...


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Homeowner Lisa Jensen told The Associated Press on Monday that the board of directors of the Loma Linda Homeowners Association had apologized, called the incident a misunderstanding and had withdrawn its request for the wreath's removal.
Haha, firing all five committee members is a misunderstanding?


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I cant find the link but she got tons of support from people all over, from just a keep it up to flat out offering to pay the fines.

However, the jerk relented and dropped his demand that they remove the wreath.


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DarthEnder said:
And at least he didn't stuff his mouth full of penises.

I mean, he's never done that so far, but still, thank god!
Nor will he, Ill leave that to the professionals.




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