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Hitlermobile could fetch $12 million
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/AUTOS/12/04/...ion/index.html



Hitler race car could fetch $12 million
Designed by Porsche, the 485-hp Auto Union D-type was revolutionary in its day.
By Peter Valdes-Dapena, CNNMoney.com staff writer
POSTED: 6:14 p.m. EST, December 6, 2006

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- A rare 1939 German race car commissioned by Adolf Hitler is expected to command the highest price ever paid for any automobile at auction, according to Christie's, which will conduct the auction in Paris in February 2007.

The car, one of five remaining "Auto Union D-Types," is expected to sell for as much as $12 million, said Rupert Banner, head of Christie's motor cars department.

In 1933, after becoming chancellor of Germany, Hitler offered 500,000 reichmarks for a company to design a race car to show off the nation's technological prowess. Originally, Mercedes-Benz got the nod. But Ferdinand Porsche, then an engineer working with Auto Union, which today is known as Audi, was able to secure some of that financing to build a revolutionary car he had designed.

That car was modified over the next few years to become the 1939 Auto Union D-Type.

The D-type had a number of features that were extremely advanced for its day, including an engine mounted behind the driver and four-wheel independent suspension. Its twin-supercharged 3-liter V12 engine can produce 485 horsepower, giving the car a top speed of 185 miles per hour.

In many ways, the D-type offered a glimpse into what would become the future of racing. It's fundamentally very similar to Formula 1 and Indy race cars of today. "It's the same as a modern day race car, just without fins," said Banner.

One thing it doesn't have, of course, is modern safety technology. Race cars in those days didn't even have seatbelts. It was seen as preferable to be thrown from the car in a crash. One safety advance the D-type did have was a removable steering wheel, allowing the driver to be more easily removed in the event of a fire


D-type cars won several Grand Prix races throughout Europe. Two days after Germany invaded Poland, the same day that Great Britain declared war on Germany, the car Christie's will be auctioning won a Grand Prix race in Belgrade, Yugoslavia, Banner said. It was the last race held in Europe until after the war. "This was a legendary period in racing," Banner said of the prewar years.

A number of D-type cars were lost or destroyed after World War II, according to Christie's. The car that will be sold in Paris was taken to Russia after the war, where it was disassembled to study its technology.

The car was rediscovered in Ukraine in the late 1980s. It was still in pieces but was otherwise undamaged. Another car discovered nearby had had its chassis sawed in half, Banner said.

The current record for a car sold at auction, according to Christie's, is £5.5 million, or almost $11 million. That was paid for a 1931 Bugatti Type 41 Royale Sports Coupe sold by Christie's in 1987.

As for the connection to Hitler, "It's not something people really want to be associated with," Banner said. But the car's value rests on its technological importance, Banner said.

Ian Kelleher, managing director of RM Auctions, a competing auction firm that specializes in classic cars, agreed that the Auto Union D-type is extremely valuable but felt that it might not go for as much as Christie's was expecting.

The market for single-seat race cars is simply very limited, Kelleher said.

"You can't drive the Auto Union anywhere but on a track, and it's a lonely way to spend $10 million," he said, referring to the low-end estimates of the car's value.

The D-type will be sold as part of Christie's "Retromobile" auction of antique cars.

Ferdinand Porsche also designed another car for Hitler but for a very different purpose. That car, inspired by the success of the inexpensive Ford Model T in the United States, ultimately became known as the Volkswagen Beetle. It also had a rear-mounted engine, as do today's Porsche sports cars.
Thats a pretty sweet car, Id gladly pay that much for it if I had the cash.



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Thats a pretty sweet car, Id gladly pay that much for it if I had the cash.
What are you, a nazi?


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John Wayne was a Nazi.

At least that's what I heard in a song.


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What are you, a nazi?
Are you trying to say that that car does not have totally sweet specs (for how old it is) and is not a cool piece of history?


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At risk of totally blowing my credibility, not every single thing that Hitler and the Nazi's did was horrid.

Originally conceived by the Weimar Republic, Hitler and the Nazi's enthusiastically embraced the project, greatly expanding the road system. Many of the roads they funded and built and still in use today.



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Yeah, I'm with Sincro. Hitler was awsome!


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Wasn't the idea and basis of our freeway system from the German Autobahn?
Hitler and his Nazis may have done a lot of horrific things, but they also did great and wonderous things even if covered in blood.

If you like Porsche than don't even comment this write up!
His doctors also did a lot of medical research and testing (Yes it wasn't the ethical way to do it, but it was done)
His use of the Blitzkrieg was also a first.

Something else that many people dont know about Hitler, he was a devote Christian.... or so it may seem.

The Catholic Church never excommunicated Hitler. He died a Catholic!
Hitler allowed the destruction of Jewish synagogues and temples, but not Christian churches. A reason many of them are still around.

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PS Who was TIME Magazines Man Of The Year in 1938?

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PSS The specs on the car are nothing short of amazing. That engine with the Liter to Horsepower ratio is still good by todays standards. I wish they put a MPG rating on it thou. I doubt it was efficient by todays standards but still....



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the article even mentions that The Volkswagen Beetle was commissioned by Hitler, designed by Ferdinand Porsche. Wow.


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Donald Duck... a Nazi? (NWS. This is a WWII propaganda cartoon, so be warned that it contains a racial stereotype and lots of "Hail Hitler's".)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XawE_...elated&search=


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That was an amusing propaganda short. I chuckled.


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the article even mentions that The Volkswagen Beetle was commissioned by Hitler, designed by Ferdinand Porsche. Wow.
You didn't know that?

As for the propaganda cartoon, I downloaded a bunch of those along with other various "banned" cartoons, god they are hysterical.


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Yeah, you can actually get a DVD of WB cartoons that is a collection of just the Propoganda shorts.

There are some hilarious ones, too, that are related to the effort on the home front as well. (What civilians can do to help, etc)


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Yeah, you can actually get a DVD of WB cartoons that is a collection of just the Propoganda shorts.

There are some hilarious ones, too, that are related to the effort on the home front as well. (What civilians can do to help, etc)
I need to look for that to buy, because some of the quality on these was REALLY bad.

Edit: It also extremely disappoints me when June rolls around and Cartoon Network has June Bugs running and cannot air a handful of the Bugs Bunny cartoons b/c people bitch about it.



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Next time I'm at Student Resources I'll see what the DVD's are. Now that I think about it, they might've been Disney rather than WB, but I'll get the details.

I did enjoy watching them - my memory just sucks.


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At risk of totally blowing my credibility, not every single thing that Hitler and the Nazi's did was horrid.

Originally conceived by the Weimar Republic, Hitler and the Nazi's enthusiastically embraced the project, greatly expanding the road system. Many of the roads they funded and built and still in use today.
You remember correctly. The Nazis did a lot of good in Germany. Unfortunately, most of the good stuff was part of a strategy to create a German war machine that would dominate Europe, so it is kind of tainted.



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Are you trying to say that that car does not have totally sweet specs (for how old it is) and is not a cool piece of history?
You missed the sarcasm there, bud.




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