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Giuliani '08!
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ROH HOH HOH!

HE WILL RULE AMERICA!

HE WILL NOT RULE THE WORLD!

DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

ROH HOH HOH!

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Re: Giuliani '08!
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Trolo said:
ROH HOH HOH!

HE WILL RULE AMERICA!

HE WILL NOT RULE THE WORLD!

DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

ROH HOH HOH!

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so whats the Rant about ? him winning or no one stopping him ?


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I dunno. After seeing what he was able to do to clean up NYC in the short time he was Mayor, I think I would vote for him as President. I mean, Times Square used to be a veritable pit of depravity, now it's at least as magnificent as it was way back when.



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I dunno. After seeing what he was able to do to clean up NYC in the short time he was Mayor, I think I would vote for him as President. I mean, Times Square used to be a veritable pit of depravity, now it's at least as magnificent as it was way back when.
most candidate have 1 thing they did right like Romney getting the olympics going back up , but the one thing doesn't matter , you don't vote for him to run 1 thing , you vote for the package


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I will vote for giuliani for president of times square!




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I dunno...I kinda miss all the peep shows in Times Square....now its like Times Square brought to you by the Disney Channel...


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Sorry, I was real drunk when I posted this last night.

Giuliani cleaned up New York with a bunch of jack-booted thugs. If that's what you want, that's what he's offering. For the whole nation. And it's rip-roaring ready for it. In the wake of all this terrorism, what a lot of voters want is proto-fascism. Rudy's got it in droves!


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Sorry, I was real drunk when I posted this last night.

Giuliani cleaned up New York with a bunch of jack-booted thugs. If that's what you want, that's what he's offering. For the whole nation. And it's rip-roaring ready for it. In the wake of all this terrorism, what a lot of voters want is proto-fascism. Rudy's got it in droves!
The drunk one was funnier.



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I think it's funnier that Shehab votes based on the candidates package.


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I guess that does make Shehab a one issue voter


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Giuliani might be the one to beat, but I think the evangelicals will pick Huckabee so we can have essentially another Bush in office. And Huckabee could win. When you have 30% of the country that is single issue and can turn out at close to 100% voter turnout , the math favors Huckabee.



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Giuliani might be the one to beat, but I think the evangelicals will pick Huckabee so we can have essentially another Bush in office. And Huckabee could win. When you have 30% of the country that is single issue and can turn out at close to 100% voter turnout , the math favors Huckabee.
Huckabee is oversold by the media. Does he have a shot? Sure. But he's 5th ranked in national GOP candidate polls, behind Rudy, Thompson, McCain, and Romney. (Not in that order). Huckabee is a temporary media darling because he's winning in Iowa. He'll need that, and then he'll need the followup momentum of New Hampshire (where he's currently running 4th behind Romney, McCain, and Guiliani, in that order, and the margin is not close), and then he'll need South Carolina... which despite his background, will be very tough for him. He's got close to no money, and the money he does have, he dumped on a one-shot, win or die in Iowa, and many in SC have a hard time with his stances.

Not to mention, Yeah, there's the pro-life voting crowd, but there's also the other one-issue crowd that makes up close to 50% of the voting base of the GOP, and Huckabee gets a miserable F from them. That's on border security. Huckabee makes McCain look desireable on that issue by comparison, and that's a death sentence for any republican. The reason this isn't hurting him in Iowa? It's a left-leaning state as far as midwestern states go, but beyond that, the GOP base there is a large and aging farming community - they're in favor of open border provisions for cheaper labor, partly due to being too old to do all the work on their own.

If Huckabee pulls this out, color me surprised. Until then, I'm only buying it as wishful thinking on the part of Democrats who see Huckabee as the easy victory that he really is.

And...uh...Trolo...

Less Al Franken and Keith Olberman buddy. It'll do you good.



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Shehab, who do you like? I'm interested in all foreign opinions on the matter.


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Less rum will do me good.

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Agreed, do that too.


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The Media loves Huckabee, for the same reason I'd love to see Edwards as the Democrat Candidate. Easy for my side to beat.


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The Media loves Huckabee, for the same reason I'd love to see Edwards as the Democrat Candidate. Easy for my side to beat.
This is true to a degree, but only for the left-leaning political commentators in the media (editorial writers and those who appear on political TV shows.) this is the same reason Dems like Huckabee. For the rest of the media who love to give Huckabee attention, it's more simple than that - Iowa's first, Huckabee's leading in Iowa, it was unexpected, therefore it's news they can run with.

Unless he starts winning in New Hampsire immediately, the minute the Iowa caucuses are over the news stories on Huckabee will end, save for the ones asking "What happened to Huckabee?"


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Giuliani is screwed. Huckabee is a gift to the democrats. He would need a miracle to win it all. The republicans have basically run head long into the unwinnable situation.


I been saying since the beginning Clinton is a stuffed shirt. She can't survive as the real comparisons heat up. She just isn't enough of a person to live up to the hype. She isn't "big" enough. She doesn't believe enough. She is running on experience... but what is experience if everyone that sees you senses you don't believe in anything. I honestly believe Mr. Clinton would be supporting Obama if he wasn't married to one of the candidates.

So... say hi to your next President of the United States: Obama.


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Giuliani is screwed. Huckabee is a gift to the democrats. He would need a miracle to win it all. The republicans have basically run head long into the unwinnable situation.


I been saying since the beginning Clinton is a stuffed shirt. She can't survive as the real comparisons heat up. She just isn't enough of a person to live up to the hype. She isn't "big" enough. She doesn't believe enough. She is running on experience... but what is experience if everyone that sees you senses you don't believe in anything. I honestly believe Mr. Clinton would be supporting Obama if he wasn't married to one of the candidates.

So... say hi to your next President of the United States: Obama.
Obama has huge flaws as a candidate that 10 more years of experience would have solved. Still, he's the best the Dems have running.

That said, I do not believe Huckabee will win this. If things stay the way they are now, I'm predicting an Obama vs Romney election. Rudy can still pull the Republican nomination though; what he's concentrated on is different, and it may work for him. Looking way ahead to Super Tuesday, Rudy is leading in almost all of the states participating on that day. So what this'll be a question of for the Republican nom will not be Huckabee, but if Romney can win the initial states and build momentum sufficient to beat Rudy's nation-wide bid. (Remember, Rudy is still up by 10 points when compared to the next candidate in line in almost every other state besides the starting ones - something he did on purpose because he felt it'd be a better use of his money to spend it in areas the other candidates weren't.)


The one thing I do agree though - Mike Huckabee is nothing more than a gift to the Democratic party. Even I would have a hard time voting for him. He just doesn't have any pull on ANYTHING outside the evangelical community. (From the conservative standpoint, he's bad on taxes, bad on the border, bad on foreign policy, bad on crime... most Republicans won't even bother to show up to vote if he gets the nomination.)


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Just for self-clarification, I'm a Romney supporter. He's not the Reagan I'd like to see, but I see Romney as a JFK or 1960s Democrat - I might not get everything I want out of him, and he will probably continue to increase the damn social programs, but it's someone who I can agree with on 80% of the issues, and he can still win this election. He's just gotta overcome this "OMFG, he's a Mormon!" bullsh*t - which he did nicely with that speach two weeks ago, had anyone actually been paying attention.



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This is true to a degree, but only for the left-leaning political commentators in the media (editorial writers and those who appear on political TV shows.) this is the same reason Dems like Huckabee. For the rest of the media who love to give Huckabee attention, it's more simple than that - Iowa's first, Huckabee's leading in Iowa, it was unexpected, therefore it's news they can run with.
Yesterday, Huck spent 45 minutes surrounded by reporters with a knife at his throat. How could they not love that? It's the same thing McCain had going for him last time, a viable candidate who will actually talk to reporters might as well be catnip.


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Shehab, who do you like? I'm interested in all foreign opinions on the matter.
i kinda saw Ron paul as the better of the lot , kinda enjoyed his crazy talk
then i saw immigration ad , not cool anymore

wanted to root for Obama , but i have no idea what he want , the one time he said what would he do he was eaten by Hilary camp and never spoke again of what he will do ( Ron paul said a lot of what he will do , Obama keep saying change )




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