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EZ_Axire
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Ikkinz Rogue Dagger
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In case any were wondering about a new rogue Dagger...



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Re: Ikkinz Rogue Dagger
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drop in ikkinz trials, raid or?

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Re: Ikkinz Rogue Dagger
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42 Person Raid. Axire, Rogue of Mortalis
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Re: Ikkinz Rogue Dagger
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Holy god that's sweet!


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Re: Ikkinz Rogue Dagger
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not even endgame, /cackle


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Re: Ikkinz Rogue Dagger
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Sooooo sweet...


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Re: Ikkinz Rogue Dagger
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So far the weapon graphics in this expantion suck. Looks like they slaped that dagger togeather in .1 sec.


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Re: Ikkinz Rogue Dagger
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Quote:So far the weapon graphics in this expantion suck.
I could not agree more, they really need a new team of artists!


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Re: Ikkinz Rogue Dagger
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wow... compared to the ranger weapon you guys got off easy!


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Re: Ikkinz Rogue Dagger
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The word "Bling!" comes to mind... immediately followed by "ouch!"


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Re: Ikkinz Rogue Dagger
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Rogue only Dagger with no BS mod lol .

Fuggin Pwnage tho. Bout time we see a high end Dagger with a totally kickarse lifetap proc.


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Re: Ikkinz Rogue Dagger
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Well ya know, it's supposed that you're going to have a 12% mod on /something/ so you don't have to do without. And since it's a type 8 mod it's safe to say that without being 'endgame', you're going to have a tough time getting that one, yup yup.

Now, tack on the 4 damage aug and you'd have yourself a crazy ass weapon! (type 8 slots tho)


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re
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i don't know.. i think that it looks pretty ownage


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Hmm... is that a lifetap? Or is it just a DD? There's no hint in the spell description that it's a tap, but still.


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Re: re
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a lifetap is a DD, you do 150 damage on the mob and heal yourself for 150.


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Lifetaps have the same spell description as a DD, but you still get the healing, it just doesnt spell it out.


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"Hmm... is that a lifetap? Or is it just a DD? There's no hint in the spell description that it's a tap, but still."

"Lifetaps have the same spell description as a DD, but you still get the healing, it just doesnt spell it out."

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How much more spelled out does it need to be? Change the name to Tappy McLifetap? =)




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You can bitch when your end-game weapon is just a generic slasher graphic that can be picked up in Sol Ro.




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Quote:Tappy McLifetap

this made me laugh.


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Re: re
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Quote:wow... compared to the ranger weapon you guys got off easy!

Aint that the truth



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Re: re
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omg thoughs look horrid
i could do better and im a first year 3d student

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Re: re
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now that made me laugh


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Re: re
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lol...


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Re: re
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I think it looks cool; it's a weapon, not a ceremonial fashion accessory. That thing looks like it's made for disemboweling your opponents. Think about it...you backstab, it goes in and naturally wants to curl up a bit in its trajectory, then that upper bladeguard bit digs in, you give it a half twist and pull it out. It's like uncorking a fine bottle of wine, except that what comes out this time is mob guts.

Edit: Ooops...just noticed you might have been talking about the ranger sword, which does indeed look like crap warmed over a faulty hot plate. Edited by: ThornyEQ at: 2/24/04 11:04 am


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Re: re
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LOLLLLLLLL!

Now the rogue dagger I think looks ok...the ranger sword..


W............T............F..............?........ ...!


You can't just make crazy designs and call them weapons ya know. It has to make sense from a combat perspective. Really, what is the point of all the curly crap that can't possibly make contact with flesh? The only part that is useful is the outter curved blade, and then its no different from a scimitar.

What it looks like is Looney Toons Knight's lance that got curled back from being exposed to a Dragon's firey breath, ie a completely useless and funny looking piece of junk.

Wow, talk about dropping the ball on weapon design. Then again this comes as NO shock to me what so ever. IMO SOE or Verant or what have you do NOT know what they are doing when they made weapon designs.

Now to me, the coolest part of armor accessories is the weapons. I could care less what armor looks like (but please no funny hats), but give me a bad ass weapon and I'm happy as a clam.

Now consider the fact that many High end velious weapons look like low end pieces of junk. One example is the Primal one handed warsword. Then they have weapon designs that couldn't possibly work. Consider the primal spear. Yeah it looks cool, but how the hell can you pierce with that rounded blade? Its so obviously a slashing weapon that it makes me laugh. I like how so many monk 2hb's all look like a cardboard tube. Thanks, that was nice. What they should have done is make the weapons look cooler and cooler as they get harder to get. Why do the trash weapons off of ldon mobs have cooler graphics than my stupid pitchfork i got off that huge guppy in NToV. WHY? WHY????!!!!!!!



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Re: re
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I too like the graphic on the rogue poker. Its got this kinda, can-openerish barb on the back that I think is very cool.


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From Kunark to Velious, the graphics got better, there were some decent looking weapons in Velious, from Velious to Luclin there was another jump, some of the weapons were pretty cool looking, even though like someone said before, some of the blades wouldnt be able to cut through flesh no matter what, but it doesnt matter. From Luclin to Planes of Power the weapon graphics were a HUGE jump, PoP weapons i thought were great, i would say about 80-90% of them were great looking with very nice detail (JTB, Ifir, EoE, etc). Once PoP ended...weapons went no where, LDoN wasnt anything good, and so far, GoD is BEYOND crap, the new weapons are terrible looking, the ranger sword might be the worst weapon graphic i've ever seen, and the rogue dagger looks like its bent the wrong way with a little spike which should be in the front instead. Whoever did the GoD graphics should be slapped.


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LDoN had plenty of great graphics.
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Too bad they only ever put them on the o so useable 5/30 random drop 4p FS-equivilant weapons....

My Baz mule has a cut down FF Cloud swordblade 1hs from Ruj and still gets tells asking what weapon it is.


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Re: re
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lol@the pic Rhovanion BB posted

Is that the ranger weapon? Someone must really hate rangers

And seriously, that thing looks totally unrealistic.


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Re: re
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Up until now the weapons in Everquest at least looked like they could be useful in one way or another. Sure a primal spear didn't look like a great piercer, but it did look like a decent slashing weapon. That ranger sword is, well its to awful to describe. I'd almost feel like I'd have to apologize everytime if I wore one.

Oh well, since its ranger only, heres hoping they reuse the graphic on a few more ranger swords.


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what the hell! it doesn't have "BRD" on it :/


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Ranger was standing outside the zone line to the Vxed/Tipt
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trials today sporting one of those.. linking it and showing how pround he was that he had such an uber weapon...

I made a comment something like "Glad Im not a ranger, that weapon looks like @#%$". Now this is the funny part- and shows you why he is a ranger...

"I think it looks pretty cool".

Grats you and your guild on clearing time 35 times with the worlds only living brain donor.

If our 21/20 dagger from Ikkinz had that graphic, Id stick with my DoD (or hopefully JTB someday). Hell, if we have a dagger that is 25/10 and looks like that, we'll have some Bad ass damage dealing rogues in our guild but I won't be one of em.


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Re: Ranger was standing outside the zone line to the Vxed/Ti
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nice


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Re: Ranger was standing outside the zone line to the Vxed/Ti
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Dejavu Prince of Persia.


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Re: Ranger was standing outside the zone line to the Vxed/Ti
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LDoN DID have alot of cool weapon graphic, but as someone said already, they are all given to weapons that are that expansions equivalent to fine steel.

Ykesha had some awsome weapons too, all those black glass weapons. Plus, the games only NEW rapier graphic!

Seriously thought, that ranger weapon...it looks like christmas elf shoes on a hilt.


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Re: Ranger was standing outside the zone line to the Vxed/Ti
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Ranger: "Yo, check out the stats on my new slasher!"
Me: "Wow, that's awsome, gratz."
Ranger: "Yeah, and check out the crazy graphic, lol"
Me: "..."
Ranger: "?"
Me: "!!!"
Ranger "???"
Me: "Umm, put it away? Never take it out again ever?"
Ranger: "wtf?"
Me: "My thoughts exactly."

SD


Edited by: Slyy Daugg at: 2/25/04 2:24 am


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Re: Ranger was standing outside the zone line to the Vxed/Ti
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Need more weapon graphics like this!



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Re: Ranger was standing outside the zone line to the Vxed/Ti
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That ranger sword is something straight out of a Dr Seuss story (if Seuss had been into fantasy warfare and weaponry)


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Re: Ranger was standing outside the zone line to the Vxed/Ti
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We had a monk loot - dkp.ascentguild.com/item_...hp?id=6128
(sorry no ss) to see the graphic on it.. Its as small as a 1hb and has a horrible graphic to boot.

Hello oldschool bastard swords~ ^^^


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Re: Ranger was standing outside the zone line to the Vxed/Ti
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That ranger sword is firmly in contention with the necromancer epic duck as 'worst weapon graphic evah!'.

Rangers in my guild thought they had it bad when we were doing vallon zek and those scimitars dropped - ahahahaha.


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Re: Ranger was standing outside the zone line to the Vxed/Ti
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I thought the rogue poker looked ok. Gotta love the Lure tap though. Especially nice with procing AA skills.

The ranger sword though. Oh man


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Re: Ranger was standing outside the zone line to the Vxed/Ti
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Don't dis the duck wtf.


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Re: Ranger was standing outside the zone line to the Vxed/Ti
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so is there no backstab mod? that means if u are offhanding something that does not this is prety much no mod for u anymore?

Slinker


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Re: Ranger was standing outside the zone line to the Vxed/Ti
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Quote:so is there no backstab mod? that means if u are offhanding something that does not this is prety much no mod for u anymore?
Yes if you have no backstab mod it means you have no backstab mod...

ps. I hope it won't take longer for you to figure that you can swap your hammer to something with a backstab mod tho...


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It having no BS mod is a problem. It forces you to offhand another piercer and having to mainhand a piercer is restrictive enough as it is.

The real problem here is that SOE has no imagination (up to this point). The top end pokers in Velious, Luclin and PoP were all delay 19-20 (Bloodbath being the one exception at 21). Hello? Variety wru~ Well actually Velious had one other: Vyemm Fang at 13/17 was a somewhat interesting weapon.

Now this seems to be changing now (thank God) though perhaps not enough and not fast enough. But for example theres a mnk/bst 6/10 1hb out there. Hooray! A nonstandard weapon! Why doesn't SOE put in weapons for us like, say, 17/17? Or even 15/15? Let us make some choices about how we want to mix up our BS and melee damage (ie sacrificing one for the other).

Back to the Ikkinz poker and its (nonexistent) BS mod. How about another solution on the variety front? How about putting BS mods on... non-weapons! Yes, its a shocking idea I know and one I've /fedback numerous times. Why not have a BS mod aug? or a BS mod on some gloves somewhere? Or bracer or anythign really. C'mon SOE its not that difficult. If BS mods aren't on non-weapons then yes, basically every rogue piercer is forced to have a BS mod on it. The smart money is on this weapon getting one in a patch or two.


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Of course there is Mrylokar's Dagger of Vengeance (if it still drops the current ring of Vulak).

Rangeable with +12% bs mod (has some okish stats as of being top end Velious item; 100hp and that stuff).


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Frankly, at this point, I'd be fine with a backstab mod AA. Augments or armor featuring a backstab mod (e.g. not the +20 backstab on Time BP but a 12% + the +20) would not be exactly out of the question either in my book.

No matter though, I'm confident this was simply another case of the devs not itemizing new content fully and we shall likely see v1.02s of all the "newer" items. Now, they may nerf things in the process but somehow I don't think so. GoD seems to actually be encouraging a truely massive increase in player-power. The effects this will have still make me shudder a but though, as the casual-raider to uber-raider gap is about to widen even more. I fully expect by the end of this expansion that PoT will be thought of more like VT than as end-game. Looking forward I can imagine posts along the lines of: "Do we really need PoT to progress in Qvic?"


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Gee wiz your right i dont want to replace my waited out for months quarm hammer to mainhand a new god dager that has no backstab mod when every crapy dager in recent memory usualy has it

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ranger weapon looks like one of the Grinchs shoes lol.


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The ranger sword makes me want to go to Dairy Queen for some reason. I think it's the patented DQ swirly flip making me lust after an ice cream cone.




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