might want to put sneak in there too before hide. That's the way I have it so that you have a 1-push macro for going SoS, which can be helpful in other situations, like using OT hammer when you are KoS, zoning into Howling Stones, zoning from PoNB to PoN when there are mobs still up, etc.
I keep the Hide and Sneak buttons up as well as Evade, just so I can visualize their refresh rate.
Bah, I put the PP line in my Evade macro until I maxed out PP to 200. IIRC it took me until about L42 or 43, and only because I got in a seriuosly good group at around 40 and leveled very fast.
True it's more agro (so PP first, and Hide second), and once you max PP I'd say remove the PP line (or at least have two macros set up that you can swap between them if you need to), but because PP is needed for our Epic it's very important to max it out. Besides, getting a few smacks pre L50 is not really a bad thing, and it teaches you to be careful.
BTW, when I was doing this in my 20s, 30s, and early 40s, I'd keep track of the cash I got and give it to any Cleric in our party when they were good at keeping Symbol up! I made a few longer term friends that way, and kept in line with my Agnostic & "Neutral Good" character design.... AND it was a fun opportunity to role play! Rinalthelis Wolfbrother <Ancient Adventurers>
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If you really must put other skill-ups into your evade macro, both Sense Traps and Disarm Traps can be worked on without any traps around... and they cause no ethical arguments between you and your group members or other rogues at the SafeHouse.
Or better yet don't put it in the macro at all! You're not role-playing by PPing in groups, you're stealing. You wanna work on the skill so you can do your epic, go find an orc pawn and work on it there.
And, seriously, saying you made long term friends because you stole from your group is a stretch, to say the least.
I don't care if you all think I'm a raving lunatic on this subject, cause I think every single person who puts a pick-pocket key into their evade macro is absolutely 100% of the time dead wrong. I'll never condone it in any group I'm in, will never group with a rogue who admits doing it, and will do my utmost to inform guildleaders of guilds rogues are in on my server when I learn their rogues are doing this. No rogue app in my last guild succeeded if I found out prior to guilding they PPed from groups.
You're wrong. You're not role-playing, you're stealing. Get over it, and lose the line from your macro.
There's nothing wrong with putting PP in a macro. It's a tool like any other. How you use it is another story. If you do use it, keep in mind it can generate a LOT of agro. So PP (either via macro or manually), before you hide to evade.
Persoanlly I don't steal from my groups. I PP mobs yes. Sometimes I'm ML, sometimes not. When not, I give the loot to the ML at the end or during breaks. I always let the group know I'm going to do it. Helps avoid any misunderstandings later. Once I hit 200, I won't need to do it in groups.
I personally don't have PP in my evade macro, but I really don't see the harm. It's a game, y'know? To the ones who say it's not roleplaying, it's stealing... How do you recommend roleplaying a thief without stealing? It's roleplaying money!
If you're not going to use PP, don't complain about class balancing. It's not as though we can quad-kite, y'know? Hedor DeFranco of the Magnificent Militia
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As far as the hot key goes, I always put a pause in mine:
/doability (no. for hide)
Then I adjust the pause depending on group. Eg. sometimes you may be grouped with an MA who is having trouble maintaining agro for what ever reason - it happens so in this case my pause may be 8 or there abouts, but if I am in a group where by the MA grab agro back as soon as I pop the evade sequence, then the pause is shorter or non existant. I find it makes for a more effective evade.
By the way - for any that don't know 6 is not 6 seconds (hehe) 6 is 6 10ths of a second so 60 is 6 seconds! (which you would not want to be as your pause as its far too long!)
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When people say "pick pocketing is roleplaying!" I like to say "oh, and in what other ways do you roleplay in EQ." Of course a lot of "uhhhhh durrrr ermmmmm" follows.
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There's only a slight delay in an evade macro, and i guarantee it's faster than turning autoattack off, hitting your hide key, and then turning autoattack on.
On raidmobs i just constantly hit my evade key, every time the hide button pops up, because otherwise i'd just get killed every time the main tank went down. Also, it's much more fun to see Rangers yelling in guildchat for rampage heals.
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People who loot more than 4 times in a group fail app for your guild also, Sinc? Because, an hour of pickpocketing, thats about what it adds up to pre-55, and thats what we're talking about.. Bloodveign
Actually, the reason I made my rogue is because my friends all were playing, and they were DE, and starting to go to BeFallen. They wanted someone who could open the stupid doors when they fell down the well and died...
Quote:When people say "pick pocketing is roleplaying!" I like to say "oh, and in what other ways do you roleplay in EQ." Of course a lot of "uhhhhh durrrr ermmmmm" follows. AMEN! I always wonder how the Dark Elf rogue that says "I pickpocket because I'm roleplaying" would feel if the high elf cleric standing over his corpse said "I'm sorry, I can't rez you because you are evil and a sworn enemy. I'm just roleplaying..." -Le Chevalier Blanc
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