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How do you toggle the shut down screen in Windows 98? My dad has two computers set up side by side in his office, and is terribly concerned because one of them shows the screen and one doesn't (I know it doesn't really matter at all, but he wants the same anyway).
Do you mean the "It is now safe to turn off your computer" message? I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that message is a feature of win98 first addition, whereas wind98 SE just goes ahead and turns off your computer without that message.
I'm running 98SE (hold down the laughter), and mine doesn't have that message..it just proceeds right to the shut down. If one of them is an older machine, it's possible the older motherboard doesn't have the auto shutdown feature.
and some times the power supply, if you are using an old AT powersupply the power switch is hard wired so nothing the pc can to can physically reach out and hit the power button...
skewerzjoo I don't see any reason to upgrade from win98 if it does everything you need. I still run 98 and theres nothing that I miss from not having xp. I know there are people here that will tell me I am an idiot and need to upgrade but I don't care what they think.
XP really does manage memory better, but 98 wasn't a bad operating system, long as you kept it up to date. The reason most will tell you to switch is that microsoft no longer supports it, so you're left with whatever they decide to fix (if any at all) in their spare time.
Microsoft started "re-supporting" it after they announced that they were no longer supporting it, probably due to legal issues stemming from promises made when Win9x/Me was the standard OS. Microsoft will continue to support Win98 until June 2006.
To optimize Win98 memory, set the role of the computer to "Network Server" (it handles memory a bit better than the default setting), set the virtual memory's minimum and maximum swap file size to the same amount to create a permanent swapfile, and do the ConservativeSwapFileUsage=1 tweak to get Win98 to use the real memory before it starts using the virtual memory.
Back on topic, the other posts are correct. It has to do with power management stuff in the hardware. If it can, Windows will shut down the PC automatically. If not, it shuts down to that screen, and you have to manually turn the power off.
Actually, there are plenty of reasons to leave 98 behind. It's "supported" in the fact that Microsoft will let you pay them. Other companies are already dropping support. And there are 0... yes, zero... Windows Updates for it, since June of 2003. Now, considering the sheer amount of people who complain that Windows is unstable and unsafe and blah blah blah... bite me, get an operating system that is supported fully.
On top of that... even with all the tweaks for 98.. it STILL has memory leaks, and it STILL cannot do the things Windows XP can. There is 1 reason, and 1 reason ONLY to remain on 98. If you have a program that is designed for an older OS (such as DOS, Win 3.1, or Win95) that will not run on an "NT" based OS. And compatibility mode won't work. And TameDOS won't make the DOS stuff run properly.
Or, you're a cheap bastard who won't buy a new system, even though the "lifespan" of a PC is on average 4-5 years, and yours is in that range or more. Trust me, I see it ALL day EVERY day.
People running 98 on the internet are the REASON viruses propagate as fast as they do. Sasser/Blaster being notable exceptions (which, if properly updated, there was 0 issues on an XP machine either).
You NEED to get out of 98. There is no excuse. Whatever you tell me, I can give you 2 or 3 reasons why it's not true, and most likely why it's flat out WRONG.
Ruccus, I love ya man, but "re-supporting" it doesn't mean ****. Look up, it's STILL got 0 updates in the last year, and other companies are dropping support, and not making drivers for the new hardware.
Now, on to the topic of the actual post:
There is an advanced power settings thing somewhere, I'm looking for it... I'll post it when I find it.
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Go into your BIOS and set Power Saving to either User Defined or Enabled (anything but disabled). Then you boot into Windows 98, and look under your display properties, screen saver, power (or control panel, power)... There should then be "Advanced Power Management." If it's an AT form factor it will never work. If it's ATX, it might. The Advanced Power Management may NEVER show up (it's one of those weird things). Tada.
ConservativeSwapFileUsage=1 is a registry setting; run sysedit and go into the system.ini file. insert "ConservativeSwapFileUsage=1" (no quotes) under the [386Enh] section.
I'm trying to remember the exact place the other two settings are; I haven't used Win98 in a while. I think it's "My Computer> Properties> Advanced", then there'll be three buttons along the bottom, one saying virtual memory, performance, and something else. The "role of the computer" is accessed through one of the buttons while virtual memory is accessed through another one of the buttons. When you're in virtual memory click on "let me set my own virtual memory" and set the min and max values to the same amount (in mb = if you have a decent sized hard drive it doesn't matter how big it is, just make sure it's over 512mb or so).
Defragging the hard drive after creating the permanent swap file should move it out to a faster part of the hard drive as well.
actually, most of the new virii are XP targeted..i haven't had a virus in years....and norton catches everything that tries to sneak in...
Then check again with a real antivirus... Norton is about 75% effective from what we've seen at my company... 2004, fully updated... remove it, install AVG 7.0, updated, scan... normally find 10-15 trojans... hell, AVG 6.0 Free finds more than Norton does... if YOU haven't had a virus in years, congratulations, you aren't an idiot (most people are)... but I'd bet you have a trojan or two, give AVG free a shot and see what it finds.. :)
and the reason virii are found for XP/2000 is because they are still being patched... 95% of the worms you see (like blaster and sasser) are from people reverse engineering the patch AFTER it's release... the hole didn't exist in 98, therefore, the patch doesn't affect it (or they can't figure out how to exploit the hole in 98, since the patch is for XP/2000)
Sorry, still 0 reason to stay with 98 unless you have a known program that won't run under XP (which is EXTREMELY rare) and doesn't have a newer version that does (which is even rarer)
